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Old 01-18-2009, 06:40 PM   #61
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Are you people still bickering about weed?

I only have one thing to add to this, if you think that Marijuana has more capability to ruin a life than Alcohol you are an idiot.
thats a retarded statement
and no one here said that either.

But thanks for your post.


And you dont hear alot of people in treatment centers and rehab saying Alcohol was their gateway drug to harder things that ruined their lives and that of the family.
you do hear almost everyone say that reefer was the drug that really helped send them on to other things.

not making a stand on it either way, just giving you information so you can think about what you post next time.




anyways, if you actually wanna discuss it, then PM me.
Im done talking to stoners.
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I never said you or anyone did. It was merely a comparitive statement. If alcohol is legal and is in MOST cases 100 times more destructive to ones life, then why can't weed be? Most young people I know started off drinking, then smoking, then doing whatever else losers do. The real gateway drug is stupidity.

We all know the real reasons. So there is no more reason to bicker about it.
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Legalizing it would serve the government and anyone who cares about marijuana to begin with. If pot were legal then the government could commercialize it, not only so people could legally get stoned but so we could gain the many useful resources (and money) that come from hemp. Fuel, fiber, food.. and we haven't even scratched the surface of the possibilities.

but thats not even the whole thing..
yeah the government can TRY and tax and control it
but honestly the government can NEVER control marijuana
its too easy to grow.
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but thats not even the whole thing..
yeah the government can TRY and tax and control it
but honestly the government can NEVER control marijuana
its too easy to grow.
And that matters why? If it gets legalized and people still grow it, more power to them. They'll never be able to produce quality bud as efficiently as major companies would be able to. Therefore, the people who don't have the time to raise a plant would find commercial bud to be of a higher quality and much more convenient. Also, marijuana would be worth way less than it is now so it wouldn't be worth the hassle to a lot of people.
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I've changed my stance on marijuana.

It should remain illegal because there are too many losers with no self control and they'd ruin it for all the people who don't suck at life.

God i hate humanity, having to babysit them takes the fun out of everything.
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I've changed my stance on marijuana.

It should remain illegal because there are too many losers with no self control and they'd ruin it for all the people who don't suck at life.

God i hate humanity, having to babysit them takes the fun out of everything.
Alcohol is the same way. Abusers will abuse no matter what.

You guys are bickering over the same ish over and over. We all know the facts, we know about the pot heads and the normal smoke every now-and-thens.

It should be legal. If people want to get blitzed out of their mind, it's their right to do so. Weed doesn't kill people. You can't smoke so much that you die. You'll just pass out, wake up and cough. Done.
Alcohol will kill if you fucking go nuts.

That's the way I feel about it.

Show people the video. Its good to know the truth, rather than 40 yr old lies.
I'm pro legalization yet not a pot head.
And Im still not changing my avatar yet.
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who's already high?

I think you've been high this whole thread





I think that cheap asses want to have the shit be legal. lol
People that would rather grow crappy weed, than buy the stuff the companies would be putting out.

Cause the shits legal in CA.
Anyone can go to a doctor, tell em you have anything from trouble sleeping to back pains to headache to menstral cramps.
Basically anything that you can complain about, and cant be medically proven.
And they give you a weed card.
Then you go to the weed store, and buy government grown shit that owns anything on the street.

People dont even deal weed in CA anymore. Theres no market for it.
You gotta call your dealer, meet up with him on his schedule, blah blah blah,

the weed stores are all over.


So it is legal, for those who can afford it.
So stop crying



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Look if we let people do what they want they'll make bad choices.

it's a fact of life, the only way to control the population is with laws. Then you can punish those who have enough disregard for the lives of other people to do it when it's still illegal.
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alcohol is way more of a gateway drug than weed will ever be. i would rather be on the road where everyone is stoned as opposed to everyone being drunk. stoned people drive SLOW and are very cautious. drunk people drive FAST and are very stupid.
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you can't replace alcohol with weed.

I think they should both be outlawed.
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It is absolutely retarded for the US government to continue spending BILLIONS of dollars and letting gangs and cartels continue to kill eachother and innocent bystanders over marijuana. Marijuana is LESS dangerous and addictive then alcohol. NOBODY has ever overdosed from smoking pot, it is a physical impossibility. Shit is retarded and it needs to stop. There is absolutely no reason whatsoever to not legalize it. The problem is that the conservative, fundamentalist christian, douchebag, politicians consider it a dangerous drug because they are still living in the fucking 50's like a bunch of morons.

Also for all those who think that smoking pot ruins your life, grow a brain. Some people have addictive personalities and get addicted to anything to the point where it takes over their lives. Pot happens to be easily accessable so a lot of those types of people end up addicted to that. Some of the most successful, and intelligent, people that I know smoke pot. It only takes over your life if you let it, just like alcohol. I used to be an epic stoner, but once my daughter was born my priorities changed and that was it for me. Smoking pot is the easiest thing I have ever quit doing.
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Everything in moderation, use responsibly.
Just like alcohol, fatty foods, soda, and OTC meds.
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If marijuana is legalized it will be bad for the economy and we will all have lest money.
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What? You're smoking something much stronger then marijuana! I would LOVE to hear the explanation for this so I can laugh my ass off.
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can I just go back and reiterate my first statement



really guys, we dont need anymore people like this. Or anyone dressing like this.
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What? You're smoking something much stronger then marijuana! I would LOVE to hear the explanation for this so I can laugh my ass off.
cuz you'll have to fire all the cops, and DEA officers and all those prisons will close down duh.

and the tobacco industry will take a hit because why smoke that? lol.

and the cotton and logging industries will take a hit when they get competition from hemp farmers.
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you can't replace alcohol with weed.

I think they should both be outlawed.
Excuse me they tried prohibition. It failed miserably and actually led to more organized crime. Hell how do you think the Mafia got their foothold? Prohibition! How do think the Kennedy's got into power? Prohibition. Old Man Kennedy was a run runner. How do you think Nascar started? Prohibition! All your early stock car drivers were moonshine haulers.
Now with all those negatives and the negatives that have come from illegal marijuana I feel it should be at least how it is in California.


Oh and if you think Alcoholics and drug addicts are weak willed people you're a fucking idiot. They have the will to go to the ends of the earth to get their needs fixed.
Normal people pale in comparision in the self will department.

Plus if you think society supports them you are again an idiot. You are a example of what is wrong with our society a society that sells drug and alcohol use through advertising all day long. Then wonders why it has a problem with the stuff.
Outlaw it? Ya go ahead be the idiot to try and fix the symptom rather than addressing the root of the problem!
Typical of a society in a big state of denial about the truth.

Oops hahahha I called Kennedy a negative I am sure the haters are going to come out of the wood work over that one.
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can I just go back and reiterate my first statement



really guys, we dont need anymore people like this. Or anyone dressing like this.
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Excuse me they tried prohibition. It failed miserably and actually led to more organized crime. Hell how do you think the Mafia got their foothold? Prohibition! How do think the Kennedy's got into power? Prohibition. Old Man Kennedy was a run runner. How do you think Nascar started? Prohibition! All your early stock car drivers were moonshine haulers.
Now with all those negatives and the negatives that have come from illegal marijuana I feel it should be at least how it is in California.


Oh and if you think Alcoholics and drug addicts are weak willed people you're a fucking idiot. They have the will to go to the ends of the earth to get their needs fixed.
Normal people pale in comparision in the self will department.

Plus if you think society supports them you are again an idiot. You are a example of what is wrong with our society a society that sells drug and alcohol use through advertising all day long. Then wonders why it has a problem with the stuff.
Outlaw it? Ya go ahead be the idiot to try and fix the symptom rather than addressing the root of the problem!
Typical of a society in a big state of denial about the truth.

Oops hahahha I called Kennedy a negative I am sure the haters are going to come out of the wood work over that one.

Nascar isn't that bad, lol.


I was kidding though, i wouldn't present and argument that shoddy if i was serious lol.

I like weed.
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I personally share the opinion that all individuals should have the freedom to decide for themselves what they put in their bodies.

Obviously, they're going to live with the consequences.

But the fact of the matter is that drug prohibition has been a miserable failure in this country and around the world. Street prices have decreased yet profits have continued to increase. Demand is as higher as it's ever been. And the violence that results from the black market factor is ridiculously high.

This country needs drug awareness, not prohibition.

Because guess what, people are going to consume drugs, whether it's legal or illegal.

Let's not forget the realities of this issue, instead of just focusing on the extremes, anecdotes, and hypotheticals.
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i personally share the opinion that all individuals should have the freedom to decide for themselves what they put in their bodies.

Obviously, they're going to live with the consequences.

But the fact of the matter is that drug prohibition has been a miserable failure in this country and around the world. Street prices have decreased yet profits have continued to increase. Demand is as higher as it's ever been. And the violence that results from the black market factor is ridiculously high.

This country needs drug awareness, not prohibition.

Because guess what, people are going to consume drugs, whether it's legal or illegal.

Let's not forget the realities of this issue, instead of just focusing on the extremes, anecdotes, and hypotheticals.
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Weed is way better than Alcohol anyways.

If I was to ever smoke weed I just sit around and write music.

When I drink I want to go run around like an idiot and fuck anything that walks and isn't fat.
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^LMAO

After i stopped smoking.
My homies always complained how they didnt get any girls.
i told em, I drink and have fun and get energiezed, while you roast a bowl, sit on the couch and end your own party early. lol

Now the quality of girls can go down when you drink of course. but if you leave that night, you never know the difference, LMAO!
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I hate alcohol. I would have to drink to the point that I'm blitzed to enjoy myself. Otherwise I would drink until I'm tipsy then I just get tired.

If I were to smoke I'd do it then drink an energy drink. Feels awesome.

I have a story.
I've always bashed on beer goggles and all my friends bringing home uglies, because I'd never had it happen to me. [I never really got super wasted]

So this one weekend I decide to go to this little get together. When I show up its just a few friends playing beer pong and just one chick. She's good looking, not super hot or anything.

So 2 hours roll and I'm now completely gone.
I look over at this girl and think to myself "DAMN SHE IS HOT!". Then it hits me, she was only good looking a few hours ago... Infact I'm so messed up I honestly don't think I can see that far, it's all super blurry. All I can see is a silhouette of a woman[hopefully] and long hair.
I laughed at myself so hard I cried. Ever since then I've made sure to thoroughly check out any girl that I'm talking to when I've had a few to drink.
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to expand on this video:

THC not only does not cause cancer, it helps prevent lung cancer. THC kills cancerous cells by cutting off the blood supply to those cells.

It also promotes brain cell growth in the hippocampus region of the brain.

source: WebMD 2004-present.
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I have a question, say one person has a weed card which means they can smoke it legally, when you go take a
drug test for a job or school, will the THC findings be dismissed? I guess it all depends on the job and school stance?
I think I just answered my own question.
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cuz you'll have to fire all the cops, and DEA officers and all those prisons will close down duh.

and the tobacco industry will take a hit because why smoke that? lol.

and the cotton and logging industries will take a hit when they get competition from hemp farmers.


This is one of the stupidest things that I have ever read. There are PLENTY of other drugs to keep cops and DEA officers busy. You know busy with actual dangerous criminals. Legalizing marijuana will have no effect on them. Prisons will not close and VERY few prison workers will be layed off. The prisons are over stuffed with inmates and understaffed with guards and other workers as it is. Releasing minor drug offenders will only bring the system back in balance and probably result in better care, and more rehab and counciling programs, for the inmates that are left.

Nicotine is one of the MOST addicting substances on the face of the earth, smokers will NOT stop smoking. Besides out facist government is trying to outlaw tobacco anyways (land of the free huh?). Anyways the tobacco companies will end up being the major supplier of marijuana, which will actually create MORE jobs.

The logging industry clears land so there is no possible competition for them. The cotton industry is deeply rooted and already has all the land they need. I wouldn't anticipate any effect on them whatsoever.

The BILLIONS of dollars used to enforce anti-marijuana laws would be freed up and could be spent on actual important things, like healthcare reform. On top of that the thriving marijuana industry would CREATE an immense amount of jobs, far more then it would eliminate. The BILLIONS of dollars in tax revenues could also be spent on other actual important things to benefit our country.

Legalizing marijuana will NOT create more useless stoners. The people who are going to be useless stoners already ARE useless stoners. Being a useless stoner has nothing to do with smoking pot, it has to do with you as a person. A motivated person will STILL be a motivated person regardless of whether or not they smoke pot every once in a while. If pot didn't exist the useless stoners would STILL be useless, they just wouldn't smoke.
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To those who talk about the gateway drug argument... Its only a gateway drug because its illegal and you have to deal with shady fucks. The alcohol culture doesn't really lead people on to any drugs other than cocaine... Drinking and cocaine goes together at the high life of celebrity and indulgence.

If you could go to 7/11 and get a 10 pack of joints... the guy who will sell you heroin, or even worse oxycontin, is cut out of the cycle. He's still there but you don't have to potentially meet those people. Whoever has been in the game knows this. There are "good" dealers and "bad" dealers, which dabble in everything. If someone wants to blaze and take it easy, be my guest. If it's legal I'll smoke it with you in broad daylight. Until then, however, getting an exposure to the underground requires you to go through some shady fucks.
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Oh and if you think Alcoholics and drug addicts are weak willed people you're a fucking idiot. They have the will to go to the ends of the earth to get their needs fixed.
Normal people pale in comparision in the self will department.
So true. People will go to the extremes for their fix.
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