steve_o1989

Why does it seem that you automatically assume that you have to abuse marijuana if you use it? Or that if it was legal everyone is going to abuse it?

What difference is it if someone lights up a joint or crushes a 12pack? Either way you are out to alter your mind state. You won't be able to tell that you smoked last night, but on the contrary, you will know that you were drinking (unless you are an alcoholic).

So many people drink to "numb your brain, your feelings, slow your functions and make everything seem fine" define: alcoholic.

Marijuana works different. You have one joint, your high. Once your high, your not going to go smoke an O because you want to get fucked. Granted some people smoke more than others, and some may try to abuse it, but it's not getting you anywhere.

It isn't like alcohol where you have one drink, you have another, and another and another until you are puking on the floor...because obviously if know one can smoke pot without abusing or being a stoner than surely you can't drink responsibly. It is a drug too, which alters your feelings, so you must automatically be a drunk...right? Didn't think so.

As for it being in your system longer, yes. Hell meth is out of your system sooner, so is it better? THC stays in your system longer, but it isn't still effecting your system unless you smoke so much that your braincells are saturated with THC, and then your though process will slow a bit. The reason it shows up longer is because THC is stored in fat cells.

Please do. I am not a pot head, I actually don't smoke it at all, and I would love to listen. I like seeing both sides of the argument. I am serious too. I would like to hear what you have to say.

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ESmorz

Who the fuck cares.

It will never be legal.

The war on drugs employs far too many people. It is a critical self perpetuating cycle to the system. Having drugs illegal is better for the economy. You have to employ more people to "stop" it.

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AMAZING! i just finished watching it. an epic sense of truth.

SR2Zero

Good video. Very informative.... Liked the facts about the tests on the monkey's the gov used... and that 1/104 pot users do other drugs.

Soooshi

Amazing video.

Watched it with the GF and a buddy while he was playing WaW Zombies, and he just up and turned it off. haha.

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The system is messed up. Its all about money and job security. Just have to deal with it the best you can without getting caught up.

Take Salvia for instance.... it is the strongest hallucinogen of any drug. If you smoke a strong enough concentration from a proper setup you will literally be in hell.

How is a drug like that still legal? I can go to the local smoke shop and pick some up for fairly cheap any time I want.

Another one I don't get is how someone selling drugs gets more time than murder? Isn't murder like the sin of sins?

ericcastro

The way the news has been getting all drama queen over it, it may not be legal long.

Think about how many deaths a drug dealer is partially reponsable for. If not directly from overdose. Think of how many lives they ruin. How many people move on from one drug to the next because of them. How many violent crimes and burgluries are commited to buy drugs.
It makes alot more sense when you think about it like that.

Of course, the time for slanging weed is pretty steep in comparison to the damage of other drugs imo.
But if they made it alot less, it would be like saying, "weeds illegal, but its not that bad".
illegal is illegal.
rules are rules.
most people in the world over 26 could give a shit if weed is legal or not. You grow out of it, stop smoking and have bigger worries in life.

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illvialuver

I agree, every time I see Fries post I want to scratch my eyes and laugh at the same time, such a confusing feeling.

Sometimes I think about starting a poll and having an online patition to make you change it. lmao.

GSXRJJordan

A few years ago I would have fought you tooth and nail over this statement, but goddamn if it's not true. I have grown out of it, for the most part.

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az_240

For weed there are 0 cases of reported deaths.

The number of deaths cigs/alcohol are responsible for far surpass any illegal drug...

Your logic is like saying the Circle K clerk is responsible for the death of Uncle Albert who got cancer from the cigs he bought.

It is the individuals choice how far they go with the drug.

It's this kind of thinking that fuels corruption in America^

ericcastro

I kinda think your missing my point.
Im not talking about cancer death as far as weed goes.
Im talking about weed leading onto other drugs, and those causeing death.
The whole "gateway drug" thing.
Or talking about people that are killed over drugs.
The amount of people drug dealers put into jail.

Larger drugs kill people.
But drugs are drugs and are illegal.
Thats not fueling corruption.
Drugs are considered illegal and so you face the same consequenses for whatever your selling or holding to much of.


But if you also read my post with an open mind, and not in an argumentive way.
I also state that the fines for weed do seem a bit high.

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ericcastro

lol, I know.
weed and all the stuff about it is one of those things you really let go and could care less about.

And when your older, people that still smoke are kinda looked down upon. Like they never grew up or something. just not good to be that guy when your older

But when your young, your young.
so do young people stuff and be careful.

just wish people would put this energy into cause that fight for the planet or to help save humanity.





edit: sorry for the double post. I messed up. I didnt wake and bake, but when your 32 and havent had coffee, its like the same thing. lol

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wheresthaboost?

You're crazy man. I've personally sold pounds of bud and i have dozens of friends who have done the same and i have yet to hear of anyone dying. Pot dealers don't "ruin lives", people who slang hard drugs are the ones who ruin lives and the sketchy ass people they deal with are the ones who rob and kill for them. As far as "illegal is illegal", well that's just ignorant because hemp was once a huge industry and the outlaw of it wasn't based on any factual evidence it was based on racist depictions of "crazy blacks and wetbacks" killing white folks and greed. Weed isn't "that bad", anyone who has smoked it should know.. I'm about to spark up a bowl right now haha


Great video by the way, a lot of good facts and footage.

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ericcastro

Actually, i did smoke it and stopped.
That's why i know.
I have seen numerous friends go to jail for a LONG time for weed.
And I know of people that have been murdered over it too.
And i know people that used to kill people over it.

Opium/heroine used to be legal.
cocaine used to be legal.

don't bring that week, it was once legal argument in here.

I do think they should make "HEMP" a legal lindustry.
And keep it seperate from the week you can smoke.
Cause that just makes too much sense.
But the people that are trying to legalize "HEMP" use won't seperate it from drug use.they try and piggyback the "weed" cause with the "hemp" cause, and then they just slow down "hemp" production.

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wheresthaboost?

I too have friends in jail for marijuana-related charges and it really isn't right the amount of time they get while repeated drunk drivers and pedophiles get off with a slap on the wrist. As far as people who get killed in relation to marijuana, its sad but if it were grown commercially and regulated by the government people wouldn't be killing for it. My point about it being outlawed was that it was done unjustly, marijuana has numerous medical benefits and unless it's smoked has little to no lasting negative side-effects. Heroine and cocaine are just plain bad for you, are very addicting and seriously ruin lives.

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Soooshi

Lets go abuse Burger King Whoppers.

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I think the main reason for deaths due to weed is the fact that it's illegal and you have to buy it from drug dealers, who tend to be shady people.

I just don't think you can have a prohibition on one product, but then not have the same prohibition on something like alcohol or cigarettes which are, for a fact, much worse. It's hypocritical.

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ericcastro

I can agree with most of this.
it does affect your brain in alot of negative ways though.
but that would be an entire other thread. lol

but i do agree with the justice system having issues with the amount of time things get not making sense.
But it seems like in the last several years, they are moving to change this.
it just needs to be done slowly. You cant just say, ya know, weed is an illegal drug, but its not as bad as these illegal drugs.
The government cant descriminate like that.
thats what i meant by illegal is illegal.
It would start to create much bigger problems down the road with other laws.

Like all the shows on the TV about crazy obese people now days, lol

i personally think they should make cigarettes cost $20 a pac. And Im a smoker of 15 years.
i always thought the cigarettes are BS.
what a waste of our money.
and alcohol was illegal for a time.
but alcohol side effects are much different than weed.
The effects of weed on your brain doesnt leave for days.
But I dont have the time or patients to expain all the test they have done on this.

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Soooshi

I say to each their own.

I used to wake and bake all the time in high school. Didn't do well at all because i ditched so damn much and didn't care for it. I actually read a whole lotta books instead of being a bum while high because i personally felt it increased my brainpower. After HS, i quit.

I enjoy myself on a rare occasion, but it always pisses me off to see Cig smokes hate on pot smokers.

What kind of fucked up logic do they have that makes cigs better?

*EDIT* Not aimed towards anyone, general statement*

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murda-c

See that's the thing, everyone always says "i know it's bad, but i don't want to explain why but it is!"

why is it such a big secret?

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ericcastro

It just takes alot of time to explain a lifetime of knowledge about the subject. And smokers usually don't really wanna hear it anyways.

*From personal experience with a abusive step father that started with weed and led him to other, harder drugs.
*My mother become a counselor/drug and alcohol prevention specialist and a huge name in that community of people now days
*alateen, alanon, AA, NA, going though treatment myself, abusing different drugs and experimenting.
*watching my friend that continue to smoke, get left behind and others in life passing them by because they are unmotivated and content, yet blind to it all.
*Knowiing about all the testing they have done, like making airling pilots get high. Run flight simulators for a couple days straight, and them crashing the planes for 3 days after smoking, while the control group was perfect.
*Knowing that heavy maryjane use leaves a physical black build up that is actually visably seen on your brain, blocking nuero transmitters and numbing reaction time and intesity of feelings.
*dating girls that were smokers.
*being around alot of peopel that have quit and isten to them praise the amazing difference it made in thier lives and how they had no idea when they were smokers.
*numerous family members starting with weed and folloing it down the tube.


Ya know though. I actually dont have to much of a problem with it. I just dont think it being fully legal would be the best idea cause people might be driving high and not have fast enough reaction times when that kid runs out from between the cars to grab a ball.lol
Or haveing a someone stoned in a movie, just giggling away could really ruin it for ya, lol
Or what about someone high in the fast lane and your trying to hurry to work, and there bumping bone thugs and harmoney, or the greatful dead going 60mph. lol

I always look at it like the more people that smoke pot the easier my life will be. As people become less motivated, and slower, it makes it easier for me to get ahead of them in life and continue on my upward climb and to my dreams. lol
but im an evil fucker

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AkademikONE

Drugs are bad.

drift freaq

Wow it has gone to your brain. You just admitted on a public forum on the internet your a drug dealer. You know ISP's can be searched and tracked? Besides the fact that what you wrote above will probably get you pinked because this kind of stuff is not condoned by Zilvia.

In a word you prove Marijuana affects people. Oh and by the way like Alcohol it is addictive. I have first hand experience with that. No I no longer do it.

Though trust me anyone who says its not addictive is fooling themselves or they are complete normals who only smoke it once a month or so. If you smoke it daily? you're addicted.

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wheresthaboost?

lol I'm sure swat's going to track me down now and bust open my door Anyways, If what I said broke any rules than i'm sorry i replied to a thread about marijuana..

For the record: I USED TO sell marijuana, i don't fuck with that dumb shit anymore...

Also, marijuana does effect you but not in the way the abuse of alcohol for example does. It doesn't ruin lives. Yeah, many do experience a lack of drive and if you constantly smoke than your more likely to not do shit with you life but other than that, for the most part, high people are just like sober people.. just hungrier and with a better sense of humor

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DRavenS13

There are people that do it, and people that don't. There are sub-divisions of people that USED to do it, but don't anymore (myself included), and now see that blazing was a total waste of time. It was fun when it was happening, but now when we look back at the time wasted, it just doesn't seem worth it anymore.

Legalizing it would serve whom, exactly? The people that truly use it for medicinal purposes, like cancer patients and the like, don't really complain much because they only carry the legal limit allowed, and follow the rules to a T, in order to not get that small window of privilege taken away. The people that fight so hard to get it legalized are the ones that want to have the right to get high like retards.

IMHO, if you want it to be legalized for the sole purpose of wanting to get stoned with no consequence, then you're not part of the "movement" for its legalization. You're only adding to the reason why they won't legalize it in the first place.

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Well said Lisa.
Nice to see you on here too
Coming to Teddy's Birthday??
Edgar's got the info.

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ESmorz

Are you people still bickering about weed?

I only have one thing to add to this, if you think that Marijuana has more capability to ruin a life than Alcohol you are an idiot.

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Who wants to get high?

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wheresthaboost?

Legalizing it would serve the government and anyone who cares about marijuana to begin with. If pot were legal then the government could commercialize it, not only so people could legally get stoned but so we could gain the many useful resources (and money) that come from hemp. Fuel, fiber, food.. and we haven't even scratched the surface of the possibilities.

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wheresthaboost?

who's already high?

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