CrimsonRockett

Kevin/mrmeph approved.

Update: Shit happened to buddy's car thanks to another user on this forum, we want to know how you'd handle it/your suggestions/etc.

This thread isn't to discuss that user, only the recourse you would take.

NOT A REVIEW THREAD.

So, as most of you have seen throughout dozens of car forums, Brian's(serris) 2008 350z was completely ruined by one of our own, Mike aka widegts.

If you haven't read the story, feel free to check out this link(original site it was posted on) and browse through the 64 pages. It has close to 750,000 views on my350z.com alone and has been seen all throughout the world. You can imagine how many views this has had in total throughout the dozens of forums this was posted on.

HORRIBLE body shop experience - details inside. 350z ruined. - MY350Z.COM Forums

I won't post everything as posted in my350z, but I will throw up a few pictures to show the damage.

Also, I'm posting this up on here to have people come forward who were also screwed over by Mike. We've had several people tell us their horror stories with Mike, but seeing as to how he was mainly on Zilvia, he did a lot of work for several people on here.

I want to hear your horror stories involving Mike - widegts.

Anything from having your aero painted, car sprayed to ordering parts off of him.

As far as the update, when we dropped the car off at AngryPanda to have the entire car repaired, we uncovered something that made us sick to our stomachs.

Here is what we uncovered:







Now, for the older pictures.





Door damaged by Mike:




























His poor shop conditions:



After we discovered the damage hidden underneath the sideskirts, the total estimated cost to fix the Z back into it's original state, $13,000+.

Both quarter panels must be replaced now because where Mike cut slits into, it affects the structural integrity of the vehicle. Even if the holes are welded shut, you still can't prevent the rust that would form underneath it. Hence the reason why the entire quarter panels must be replaced.

Cliff notes to the lazy:

-Car was dropped off to have a lip kit painted/installed.
-Took 2 weeks instead of the supposed 3 days.
-Paid $750
-Received Z33 in absolute shit condition.
-Over spray on entire Z33.
-Self Tapping dry wall screws used to mount kit.
-Paint chipping off the very next day.
-Orange peel everywhere.
-Horrid fitment
-Rocker panel cut & pounded down to make the sideskirts fit.

-Estimated total damage to car $13,000+

Mike lied to the Bureau of Automotive Repair and told them Brian was looking for a budget paint job.

That made me laugh, because Brian would have paid $2,000 to have the kit painted/installed if he had to.

We will now be suing for a new 350z.

No matter how much money we spend on fixing the Z, it'll never be the same ever again.

Mike ruined a 350z, and now he's going to pay for it.

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exitspeed

That does make me sick to my stomach.

He shoulda have been put a stop o on this site long before he even had his hands on that Z.

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Om1kron

ok... so no updates then on the cars transformation... lol I wouldn't go as far as saying the rocker panels need to be replaced, i'm sure you can slice those parts right off of a salvage z and have any competent body man sufficient in welding abilities repair the sheet metal and restore the integrity.

I don't want to sound like a know it all but i've seen jobs done in peoples homes replacing stuff like that, it still boggles my fucking mind he cut out traingles in the metal and then hammered the body panel to make aftermarket side skirts fit.

Baby Jesus is crying with me. My mouth literally dropped when I saw that shit.

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exitspeed

I couldn't imagine doing something like that to any POS car let alone a perfectly good Z.

I mean fuck the side skirts, tell the owner they fit like shit and buy better products.

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Om1kron

exactly!!!!!!!

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Howard92884

Yeah this shit is crazy, I paid him for a Version Select kit about a year and half ago, never sent it to me and took him about a year to refund $595. But I feel lucky that I got my money back, there are quite a few on this forum alone that were scammed by him. Good luck to you Crimson and Serris I hope you guys get this shit straightened out.

CrimsonRockett

The car will be at Angry Panda for over a month. A Claim Adjuster went over to their place to check out the new damage.

The car will probably be deemed totaled because of the rocker panels.

I know someone with great welding skills could fab up some sheet metal and shape it out to cover the hole, but it doesn't cover the fact that it's still there.

It really does boggle my mind as to why Mike would even think of modifying a chassis to fit a body kit (Who does?!), but what's done is done. We've learned a very expensive lesson, but we're also not going down without a fight.

Mike has gotten away with SO much shit in the past. We're definitely not letting him get away with this one.

Karma's a bitch and we're bringing the hammer down on his ass.

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ZilviaKid

poor z..

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2iv0 sx

Did he do that? How the hell does something like that happen when all he has to do is paint the car?

Very poor business ethics but this isn't the review section.

Poor S14..

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LeftNutOfGowd

I would kill that MOTHA

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CrimsonRockett

Yeah, pretty obvious this isn't the review section.

This was approved by mrmeph to be posted in OT.

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stiizy

What a dick

i remember seeing this like wtf how?? why??

I hope you guys fucking get him for every fuckin penny...


Werd me too fuck the bullshit

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2iv0 sx

Hope yall get back what your asking for cause that's just foul..

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...t/DSCF0321.jpg
Screwed literally. Disgusting!

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silpena

was it with this guy? first the 350z and then the s14? how the hell do you spray the clear on and get a rough finish. Evn if it was dusty some of it would blow off. Sounds like he just sprayed a mist of clear over it. I hope your buddy gets his new Z and plus more $$ to make up for the lost time and $$. This mike guy ruined his rep and will never recover from it even if it was one his employees at fault. I charge someone 1700 on a full repaint on a fiber glass electric car and plus lots of fiber glass work to it. Did jambs and everything and that is cheap. I hope the adjuster knows what hes looking at becuase some of them are stupid and know nothing about adjusting or looking at damages(experience with them).

BustedS13

so what the fuck did he think the owner would say when they opened the doors and saw a row of randomly positioned drywall screws, let alone the rest of the shittiness?

what a piece of shit.

HyperTek

i remember that thread, i linked it to my buddy whos a car purchaser for carmax, he said they would deem that car totalled with that damage =(

Hope Brian can be fully recovered for this.

advice to anyone else.. test fit/ pre mount your kits first, learn how to make corrects *tons of sources on the net* even if it takes you weeks, a good weekend may do. then take em seperately to get spray matched to your car, take em home and mount em yourself = avoid problems like this.

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AkademikONE

So when Brian drove it home that night, he didn't notice the screws in the doorjambs?!

CrimsonRockett

Oh, we noticed a ton of things that night.

We called him on a lot of it, but Mike simply said "just bring it back next weekend so I can take care of this and that".

Nobody in their right mind would take a car back to such a person, let alone give them a second chance to fix their mistakes.

Mike screwed himself. He screwed himself bad.

He insists that he outsourced the work and knew nothing of the said damage.

Why would you outsource work when we dropped the car off at YOUR body shop?

It doesn't even matter if he outsourced the work. Everything was done at his shop under his supervision.

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AkademikONE

When did Brian actually pay for the services? At the time of pickup?
Sorry, I didn't read the whole story. =p

HyperTek

he probably got some cheap unskilled laborer doing the work for him

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CrimsonRockett

Haha, it's all good.

Brian paid for the services at time of pick up.

After fully inspecting the car the next day, he tried to put a stop on the payment because of the damages.

No dice.

Mike loves to lie to Paypal, Banks, Credit Card companies, etc and tell them everybody authorized the said work to their vehicles.

It happened with the dude from club4ag.com that had his Corolla ruined by Mike.

It took him months to get a refund, but in that case, a refund was enough because there wasn't actual body damage done to the car after dropping it off at his shop.

A $700 refund wouldn't suffice for the damage done to the Z.

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dirtdiggler666

i bought a bumper from mike and he said it was brand new i drove all the way down their about 2 hours. then go in his back yard and it looked like it had been sitting outside for about 2 years with dirt overspray ect ect on it. and i finally got it cleaned up and lets just say its the worst bumper i have ever bought.

exitspeed

I stuck up for Mike for a while. He offered me help via IM. I even considered having him come by me to paint my car like he did for Grant.

Until all hell broke loose.

The internets are scary some times.

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CrimsonRockett

Yeah, Mel.

I remember that.

Mike isn't a bad person, very helpful, but this just crossed the line.

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exitspeed

Bad person or not, I wouldn't trust the dude to go buy a gallon of milk for me. Anyone who is able to just do something like that to another dudes car has serious morality issues.

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yurisfriendevan

not to mention mental problems, since when has it been easier to cut metal than to reshape some fiberglass?

punk138

wow what a mess!

what a waste of a Z.

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serris

Yeah, I think he's just being helpful for his own personal agenda. At least in the car enthusiast world. I can't say much for his friends.

I think I wronged him in a past life or something.

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HyperTek

so how would the insurance settle this? "Yeah I had this shop install some aftermarket parts, which didnt meet my standards , i go to another shop to correct it and they say that guy did some serious damage, check it out".

I know dealing with insurance people is a pain since everything is usually your fault. Aftermarket parts arent usually covered. I guess whoever the insurance company has to look at it should know thats not the correct or ideal way to install/deal with this.

I hope everything works out, your car did look sweet in your sig.

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Soooshi

Just to be fair.

PS. I couldn't find one for Lisa, WEST, Mel, revat, or Jeff. Damn.

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