AkademikONE

Cheat has opened the floodgates...

RPSil13

not to be a dick but what kind of 350z owner in their right mind thinks that someone is going to paint their aero and install it for 750, a prime example of "you get what you paid for," not excusing widegts actions but seriously, 750 for paint and installation, i dont think so

Kalashnikov

Come on, that's just a bold lie. We all know it. That's so ridiculous.

I Just laughed when I saw the screws.......

You could pay me and my friends and the paint job, and installation would be 100 times cleaner and we would only charge like $400. And the DUpoint or PPG paint would be $300 in it self.

MOOOOOOTHER>>>>>>>>>>>>F**KKKKKKER IS all i have to say about that guy.

This is why I haven't let a person touch my car since 1999.

DreamN

Sooshi, which is why he asked Kevin/MrMeph about it before posting it here.

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SexPanda

damn thats pretty messed up...

Hope your buddy gets a new car... I'll sell him my wagon if he wants

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Soooshi

I know. But I posted to try and get the mods to rethink that decision. Albeit the wrong way anyways.

Tons of people have posted similar threads but have been locked because, as stated by my fellow auto-enthusiasts, Zilvia.net is not a grievance forum.

*Thought*
Can we have a Grievance section? I think it'd be a fun read, to be quite honest.

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DreamN

You wouldn't be the first to say that. Crimson had passed good experiences with Mike/widegts. Serris more than likely took a quick recommendation from Crimson to check out Mike's pricing.

Plus this isn't a quick "You get what you pay for" type deal. If he had gotten what he paid for he'd have a painted kit that fit like shit on the car, not a fucked up car with a kit that fit like shit.

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DataXUnknown

I 2nd that.

There is no way that he actually thought that was "ok" to do. How old is this guy? Even doing it in the dark blind folded you can do a better job than that. So sad to see what happened to that Z, and the s14. I haven't seen the corolla yet, but I'm heading over to club4ag now to check up on that thread. But do we have a for sure age on this guy?

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norcal_black240

I heard about the Z being messed up but god damn its way worse than I imagined it to be.

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bardabe

I did some electrical work on that S14, paint is definetly shitty. heard he got it for free though but don';t remember 100%

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soreballz

Shut the fuck up. He paid 750 dollars to get a shitty kit installed badly, NOT to have his car totalled.

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Zero_SX

hahaha oh my GOD my stomach hurts SOO bad!

I was thinking about getting my interior painted by his place, due to some rust I found. I retract my thoughts immediately...

serris

They called me and they said they're going to get my side of the story tomorrow afternoon. They said that according to my policy, the closest thing that this would fall under is stuff like a rock falling on the car, missiles (yeah, she said missiles), tree falling on the car, etc. So there is a high chance they won't cover it. And if they did cover it, they'd only cover the cuts made under the sideskirts. Not the bent doors, drilled holes, etc. We'll see what happens. Hopefully when this is all over, my car will come out looking better than it did in my sig.

Well, one detail that was left out was that I knew Mike was Johnny's friend. He said business was going slow, I happened to have work for him and I thought I'd help a friend of a friend out. And like other people said, the cost of paint for a pint (that's all you really need) and other materials, that was pretty much an "at cost" job. But in hindsight, I don't see how 750 paid for drywall screws...unless they were gold plated or something. And like soreballz said, I didn't pay for him to butcher my car.

According to his profile, widegts, it says he's 26?

BTW, this is not a grievance post. I know my last post might have given off that impression, but that was not the intent. I'm not asking anyone to feel sorry for me, donate, etc. I'm just trying to get the word out on this guy and most importantly, get advice on what to do in my situation.

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Kalashnikov

True. Screw people like this. I love posts that shows the real nature of buyers and sellers and shops. This gives me a headsup.

Like that one dude that sold the "rebuilt" KA which was not. Shit like this pissssss me off. The person who got screwed should really....do more than just post pictures.

ALL YOU GUYS HAVE TO DO IS......."CALIFORNIA SUPERIOR COURT SMALLLLLL CLAIMS."

YOU CAN FILE ONLINE OR SEND IT ONLINE. IT'S COSTS UNDER $50 BUCKS FOR COURT FEES.

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS FILL OUT THE MO-FO'S INFORMATION, MAIL HIM A COPY, AND TELL HIM STRAIGHT UP. "YOU BETTER REFUND MY MONEY, OR I WILL SUE YOU FOR MORE THAN WHAT IT COSTED, BECAUSE YOU DEPRECIATED THE VALUE OF MY CAR."

AND SINCE YOU HAVE PICTURES ALREADY, BADDDDDA BOOM! COURT EVIDIENCE! THE JUDGE WILL BE LIKE!!!!! "WTF!!!????" JUST BY LOOKING AT THE PICTURES..AND GRANT YOU THE WIN.

IT'S EASY. I'VE DONE IT. "IT'S THE PRINCIPLE!"

sue him for $5,000 dollars which is the statutory maxium. Get estimates from at least 3 body shops to see how much it will cost to get it fixed.

http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/forms/fillable/sc100.pdf

also fill out an "EVIDENCE" form(S) to admit all the pictures and evidence you will need to take to court. That's it.

Court date comes, the MO-FO don't show up, he loses.... If he shows up, he still loses!!!
Just by the pictures alone. you have won.

CrimsonRockett

K, we did get quotes from body shops.

The first quote we got was $4,800.

This was before the damage we discovered under the sideskirts.

With the new found damage, it almost tripled the quote from $4,800 to $13,000+.

This passes small claims court.

Mike is known to lie and always try to persuade people to get his way.

So, when we take him to court, I wouldn't be surprised if he acted like the victim.

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I10cruiser

you should take witnesses! like yokotas

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Taniguchi_Is_#1

i remember when he fucked over yokota on that paintjob for the cedric, and then that car ended up in the junkyard. it's a fucking waste. i hope you guys win the case, the dude needs to learn that a lack of ethics will cost $$$$$.

drftwerks

does it really cost 1k to paint match a kit???

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DreamN

The painting isn't the tough part. It's the laber that's involved in getting an aftermarket kit to fit and line up correctly. It can be pretty tedious at times.

A top notch shop would have probably never taken on the project knowing what material the kit was made of because of how difficult it is to work with for the most part. This wasn't a fiberglass kit if I remember correctly, so shaping it wouldn't have been as simple.

Most shops would have charged at least $1,500 and some over $2,000 for this type of work. Honestly, Johnny (Crimson) could have done so much better than this. Johnny, might have even been smart enough to learn that the material the kit was made out of wasn't worth the hassle and do just get a fiberglass kit instead.

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UfoZ8myCow

Jesus H Christ... A beautiful Z completley ruined by an idiot. Unbelievable.

DRYWALL screws to hold on a body kit?!?!??!?!?!??!?

The thought had crossed my mind to do a body kit on my Z, but horror stories like this make me just want to get a carbon front lip and call it a day before some asshole ruins my brand new fucking car.

Sue this bastard for every penny he's worth, put him out of business, and make sure he never touches another person's car again.

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OTG Vinyl

That is so scary to see. I would HATE to be the guy being told to fix that.

AkademikONE

*snip*

...waiting for the others to reply.

CrimsonRockett

Quit beating a dead horse.

This is Kevin approved.

We're not here for pitty, donations, or anything of that sort.

Review section would just be...a review. Think of this as an open discussion of things that have happened to you with Mike as well.

Something similar happened to you in the past? Let us know.

We're trying to figure out the best route to go about this.

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Soooshi

Sounds like a review to me.

PS.

JANS TOWING do NOT USE them.
Inland Drift is a very very bad shop
(reopen again) YOUNGANDARTLESS- chas moore is a mess up seller man
Ripped of by zilvia member...
RHD Design in Azusa, CA **BEWARE**

And to still be totally on topic...

widegts vs 0100 You decide...

also.

PPS.

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All I hope is that people take the lessons they encounter and LEARN from them

It's key that you form the ability to make the best educated decision you can with any purchase or service

You have all the proper tools to make good judgement...I'm not saying I have perfect judgement, but I have taken the "mistakes" I've made with my car and thankfully learned from them to try to avoid sticky situations with my car

There are things that are unforseen and unexpected, which is to be expected. Then you also have total disasters like this one

Could this have been avoided? Possibly...but the point is still that people who are not equipped to do proper work should be called out on it for the sake of saving others from making the same mistake

I definitely understand the concept of "you get what you pay for," but this kinda goes beyond that issue

I mean it would be one thing if he painted the kit and was chipping for $750...okay that makes sense

But cutting out sheet metal and doing work as seen in those pictures is another issue that you couldn't have predicted just based on price

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CrimsonRockett

Check out the update on the first page.

Yeah, it just became a discussion thread.

So, Angry Panda should have updates on the car very soon with pictures and such.

We'll be making a trip over to the shop on Sunday to decide on what's gonna happen and check out the new color the Z is going to be repainted.

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Soooshi

So can we have a grievance section?

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CrimsonRockett

You should PM an admin about that.

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AngryPanda

baby Jesus came over last night and told me the car made him cry. Also Santa came over and promised me not to give any more presents to Mike ever again. One of Brians great ancestors apologized to me for wronging Mikes ansecestor causing mike do this to Brians Z. Man i feel sorry for the guy who is fixing this car. He's got his work cut out for him.

CrimsonRockett

You sure do.

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