exitspeed

You guys should know by now that I'm a fan of Caddy and a lot of GM's newest offerings. The rumor about this car has been floating around for a while now but not it looks like it's got the green light for development.

Imagine a sedan smaller then the CTS, rwd, and possibly the 2. Ecotec 260hp turbo and that MF would be bad ASS!

Here's the link!
Baby RWD Caddy

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dubtastic

It'd be a fast comfy daily driver.

Power to weight ratio on a caddy must be horrible.

I wonder how bad they'll over price it too.

sub9lulu

its gonna weight 3600lbs

idahotuner

3600 lbs. holy crap...

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exitspeed

Yep, a perfect daily. That's what I'm lookin for. CTS has a great power to weight ratio compared otehr cars in it's class. The CTS-V is literally he best in it's class.

Over priced or too expensive for you? I wouldn't call the CTS-V over priced compared to it's competition at all. In fact it's a bargain.

That's a good estimate. The current CTS is around 3800lbs. This car being smaller and being equipped with a smaller engine will bring the weight down some. I'd say on the optimistic side it'll be around 3400.

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SoSideways

Everytime I see/hear about the CTS-V, I just think of this video...

StreetFire.net's "cjonesy" has some trouble with h

I just can't get past what happened to his car, and how they dealt with it.

If GM has addressed those issues, then Caddy would be back on my list of "maybes", because I do like the way the CTS looks, and from what I've read, they perform very well also.

stiizy

Mel how much we looking at for this???

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That was one instance. And yes they probably didn't handle that the best. HOWEVER Cadillac as a brand is rated higher then any car manufacturer in the industry as far how customers are treated. At least as of a couple years ago, aprox. around the same time of that video.

But again, bad case isn't going to stop me from buying a car. Also the new CTS is a better car in almost every sense.

Considering the CTS starts at $34k, and they obviously wouldn't want to cannibalize CTS sales, I'd say it will be starting around $25k and topping out somewhere in the low $30's. That would be it's sweet spot IMO. A LSD equipped 2.0lT with some kinda tech package for like $33k? Oh yesssss fuckin please.

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stiizy

Yea that would be sick...

I was thinking of picking up a CTS for the wifey when i switch jobs but i think i can wait for this....

Nice will it be offered in AWD just like the CTS as well??

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future240

Mel what you think for styling? Cuz the cts in general is just fugly to me.

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SoSideways

Oh I know that was only 1 instance, but usually that 1 instance will show you whether or not a company is worth dealing with or not.

In cjonesy's case, I think it has more to do with the particular dealership than GM as a whole, so remind me not to buy a Caddy from that place lol

But yes, as you said, the CTS-V is a sweet as hell car, and I wouldn't mind one either. However, I'd have to make sure it doesn't like to run on 4 cylinders and shake like a polaroid picture.

treken2t87

Whatever ended up happening???

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SoSideways

He lemoned the car.

That's all I could find.

exitspeed

I don't think so. The Alpha platform borrows heavily from the Kappa partsbin. There's an outside chance there could be down the road but the extra weight it would add would make it less fuel efficient and that is def. something they want to avoid here. And just so you get an idea of scale, the Alpha platform will be about the size of a G6. Styling wise though, it'll make for a wider stance lower roofline car.

Then I'm the wrong guy to ask, because I LOVE the CTS's styling. It's probably one of my favorite cars on the market right now.

But if you are wondering about proportions and what not you can just look at the Holden Torano concept. So just picture this with Caddy's current styling cues and you get the idea. If I was better at PS I'd be all over doing a chop.

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RedEvilRPS13

and then imagine a japanese car that's cheaper in price, better made, more reliable, lighter, faster, and handles better.

Cadillac=still a fucking soulless waste of money.

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exitspeed

At this point I've heard nothing to actually give me any hope that a Japanese company is making a car like this otherwise yes I'd be even more excited. If Nissan would make a small sedan with G35 sedan stylin in this segment I'd be all over it.

But I dissagree with this statement whole heartedly: Cadillac=still a fucking soulless waste of money.

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P_856

haha i just watched the whole vid that guy should get his own show where he test drives cars

Agamemnon

Just as long as it doesn't end up as a failure like other watered down Caddy's of the past.

Agamemnon

BTW, I like the look of the new design.

JoeC1982

I'll pass on the ecotec too, i'd rather have a 2.5-3.0 DI V6 with 220-240hp.

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exitspeed

You forgot about the worst Caddy and possibly worst GM car ever. The Cimarron.


Lucky for us Caddy today is not the Caddy of the past.

That is just Motor Trend's rendering. They took the proportions of the Holden concept and Caddy-fied it.

I'm sure a V6 is going to be an option. GM is has their 3.6 DI that is going in the G8 ST (Sport Truck). That would seem simple enough.

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RedEvilRPS13

Honestly exit, for the price of some of the caddies out now, you can buy better cars.

Unless its a caddy from the 60s, I dont trust it.

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exitspeed

That can be said about any car depending on your preferences. I for one would never buy a VW, but a couple of my friends are nuts about the new ones. Caddy's dependability and quality is at the top of the industry right now. And dollar/performance/dependability/styling/interior/etc the CTS is just as good and in some cases better then it's Japanese and Euro competition. And if you are talking about the CTS-V, there is no production sedan that comes close to it's performance and price.

Yes, the STS sucks, and the Escalade and SRX are big ass gay SUV's. But the CTS is a fantastic car.

I challenge you to name a car with the specs that this car is going to have that is new...

You can't because there is none. I'm really hoping Nissan does this with an Infinity sedan based off of the new 240 platform. But that is just me speculating.

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DOOK

it'll probably just go to Europe and not here anyways....

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exitspeed

Prolly not. The Alpha platform was meant to be sold in America.

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RedEvilRPS13

Um how can their be reliability concerns with a car that hasnt been out that long? You cant call a new malibu reliable because well it just came out. Hell the CTS isnt that old. And Caddy's interiors are known to break over time.

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exitspeed

I guess I was referring to Caddy as a whole as far as dependability. They are ranked very high.

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RedEvilRPS13

^you must not know many caddy owners.......ive had several caddy owners as friends over the years and 98% of them would NEVER buy another one.

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exitspeed

GM sells hundreds of thousands of Caddy's a year. You obviously don't know all the owners and going off of statistics, the people you know are not the majority.

Just sayin, you are comparing a handful or couple handful's of people to hundreds of thousands of sales.

Statistics are not the end all be all and should be taken with a grain of salt, but when multiple sources are all saying the same thing...

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RedEvilRPS13

Yeah but most caddys are bought by Older people who just care about it being a caddy, you know, like the same people who buy buicks because theyre a buick.

i dunno. you smell. lol

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