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Old 07-30-2008, 06:50 PM   1 links from elsewhere to this Post. Click to view. #1
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We can save all the oil by inflating your tires...

"We could save all the oil that they're talking about getting off drilling if everybody was just inflating their tires and getting regular tune-ups. You could save just as much."
--- Barack Obama

Obama’s Answer to Drilling Debate: Inflate Your Tires
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He can't be serious?

Can he?

It's a good thing to keep your tires inflated properly etc. cause it DOES save fuel, but not THAT much.

It's what I've been saying for a long time now (and so have many others), he appeals to people cause he's a talented speaker, talks well and is charasmatic... But that's really all he's got. Talks a lot, doesn't say much.
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hahha what kind of garbage is that? keep your tires inflated? sounds like a bad midas commercial. maybe next he's gonna offer "free" 36 point inspections
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He can't be serious?

Can he?

It's a good thing to keep your tires inflated properly etc. cause it DOES save fuel, but not THAT much.

It's what I've been saying for a long time now (and so have many others), he appeals to people cause he's a talented speaker, talks well and is charasmatic... But that's really all he's got. Talks a lot, doesn't say much.
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Obama gives some pretty weak ass reponses. He keeps talking about "CHANGE" but hasnt defined how it will happen. Everyone knows the war needs to stop, gas prices, economy everything needs change.
This inflate your tires is a very typical Obama response
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i would actually like to see how things would change if we all got the tuneups we needed and ran at the right inflation and all other things we are all supposed to do yet many ignore.

however.. dumb obama statement.. and i love the guy
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Old 07-30-2008, 08:31 PM   #8
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i work for a rather large trucking company and when we actually aired our tires up to the correct psi we saved over $250,000 in one year on tires. has nothing to do with the oil but it does show how much air pressure in tires means.
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multiply the savings of a tuned up car with properly inflated tires by 100 million people and it might make a difference, but whatever; this is a pretty ridiculous criticism, a 10 second video clip about this. cmon, do better, understand the point he was trying to make. I'm getting out of this thread before it becomes ridiculously political though, because god knows it will get ugly.
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Surprisingly enough alot people don't know this.
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Surprisingly enough alot people don't know this.
I see people with almost flat tires everyday.

This thread is going to go no where fast.
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i'm still gonna vote for that idiot i guess. unless cindy mccain makes some sort of deal where drifterz get free gas. then i'll vote for mccain AND not sell the 240. sooo tempted to sell it and buy a duster or something right now. so bored. so tired of work.
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Small changes can make a big difference
Do your part.

Big changes ...well there's no such thing in such a rigid system.
Since everyone needs to appease both sides, you'll only get small changes that try to maximize profits and do as little to the environment as possible. Small changes after years of political debate and with legislation attached.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with the advice he gave.
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He can't be serious?

Can he?

It's a good thing to keep your tires inflated properly etc. cause it DOES save fuel, but not THAT much.

It's what I've been saying for a long time now (and so have many others), he appeals to people cause he's a talented speaker, talks well and is charasmatic... But that's really all he's got. Talks a lot, doesn't say much.
agreed there. I mean it's one thing to give advice on saving fuel costs, I'll give him that. but it's quite another, IF he considers this a legit reason not to drill (regardless of whether or not you actually believe in drilling).

He might have given good speeches in the past, but this particular clip comes across as a bit comical and a little scary.
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Hey tune ups and properly inflated tires make a big difference. Sometimes by as much as 40 percent. If everyone would do this, we can save a lot of money.

Demand will fall and hopefully that will bring the price down.
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why do you think demand will fall?
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why do you think demand will fall?
becseu what coems up msut come down
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how about cracking down on these oil companies.
In an economy down turn they are the only ones making record profits.
Exxon Mobil making 40 Billion in 2007!!
Oil companies have the government by the balls. Watch "Who Killed the Electric Car"
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The more mileage we get, the less we will use. The less we use will bring the demand down. Since Demand is high, companies can charge as much as they want. When demand drops, companies must bring prices down so people will buy.

EX. Gas prices are high, you dont want to drive far to go out. Prices are low and you do want to go out.
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That only works with perfect competition. The oil industry is monopolized. Don't you ever wonder how all gas stations raise gas prices exactly the same time?
If you reduce the amount of supply, it keeps demand high. Oil does not depreciate like other goods, rather appreciates. Economics says to produce until the break even point, you really think Oil Companies will produce like that?
Do you know how long it takes to refine crude oil into gasoline? Much longer than few days. Yet when the price of a barrel goes up, our gas prices are changed immediately.

Oil companies aren't stupid, they will extract maximum production levels, yet supply the market fewer than needed. They operate like De Beers Diamond Company. Hoard all diamonds, and slowly release diamonds to keep prices high.

Economics tells you to maximize profits and keep producing until Marginal Revenue equals to zero. That is against perfect competition.
Granted oil companies do not need to hoard/withhold gas to keep it high. The United States alone consumes more gasoline than what oil companies can produce and you know why else it is high?
CHINA. Beijing(just the city) alone uses roughly 25% of the WORLD'S steel.
Now even if we reduce demand for gas, that just means China will buy it. Either way we're screwed, sadly, only the government can regulate them. And push for alternative fuels.
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There's absolutely nothing wrong with the advice he gave.
i have a feeling people are looking further into this than they need to, because of political party bias.......... and thats whats wrong with this country right now everyone is so damn tied to being either republican or democrat, so anything the other guy says is automatically twisted or shot down
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I'm surprised that oil company tycoons haven't been assassinated/murdered by now........

You think gas is high now? I live in Canada and we pay 1.30/LITRE. That's roughly 1.06/Litre for you guys who pay $4.xx/gallon in the US.

You guys are lucky that the government subsidizes your oil, as we get taxed HUGE amounts....
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^ Wtf is a litre and how much is it?

Start speaking english, anne murray!!

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Sounds like this thread is already turning into a clone of 50 other threads on here.

Whether or not he's dodging the issue there is some credence to what he said because there are plenty of people who don't know dick about cars. A good example is the lady I saw putting regular into her G35 the other day, probably thinking she's saving money.
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i said it before but...... nothing's going to change (as far as gas/oil goes). watch...... just watch....
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lol at typical responses.

"I don't want to make any effort myself."

"I refuse to believe that I am part of the problem."

"The government and big corporations should just fix it for me."

Under-inflated tires can decrease your gas mileage by 15%. Let's assume 1/3 of the population drives on under-inflated tires. If they all maintained the correct tire pressure, America would instantly need 5% less gasoline than we currently do. The United States currently consumes about 350 million gallons of gasoline every day. Saving 5% would be over 17 million gallons a day or 6.3 billion gallons a year
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God I remember paying a dollar a gallon back in the day!
yep, when i started driving it was 99 cents/gallon...... how long ago that seems now!
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The more mileage we get, the less we will use. The less we use will bring the demand down. Since Demand is high, companies can charge as much as they want. When demand drops, companies must bring prices down so people will buy.

EX. Gas prices are high, you dont want to drive far to go out. Prices are low and you do want to go out.
getting better mpg figures does reduce consumption I agree, however there are many other more considerable factors that keep it high. We really don't have any control over the rapidly increasing demand in other countries. The number of drivers increase everywhere throughout the world with time. I'm just skeptical that automotive upkeep alone will offset other changes that increase demand.

Personally, what I'd like to see is an effort to both slow down demand and to increase supply, at least with increasing the capacity of refineries, if not also drilling. cut gas taxes if needed be. hopefully also take steps to strengthen the value of the dollar, whatever it takes.

I'm actually hopeful the american public will consider more dilligent measures to save gas. the drain on their pocketbooks ought to be incentive enough.
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