Daniel.

Well since Dr Suresh Sr. was originally tracking people with abilities according to genetics, it would make sense that people with powers who lost them, would get back the their original powers. If this is all based on genetics.

Another thing that supports this is how Matt Parkman has the same powers as his father. It gets passed on in dominant and recessive traits just like black hair or blue eyes etc.

Peter's powers are also sort of similar to his fathers. His father had to touch people to steal powers, Peter just has to be near them and he can emulate their powers.

Another theory of mine that's along the same lines is that everyone on earth has the potential for powers and what powers you get are just hidden/locked away. Only a small percentage of people have had those barriers removed and are able to access their "hidden" potential.

This would support the idea that genetics plays a role in what powers one would have.

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woodchuck

^^ very nice angle. you brought up things that i totally forgot about. your post just pwnd mine. lol

+rep for you.

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Sleepy240

I always thought of it as more of a genetic mutation per se. Otherwise as you were saying nobody would get "random" powers it would all be predetermined (ie just locked/hidden away).

I love your theory about the powers being passed down as a trait, but that kinda plays into the genetic mutation. How would you know what powers a child would have if the parents had different abilities such as one with flight and one with telekenesis? Maybe if its simply a gene that requires both parents to have it and then pass it on, at which point the persons predetermined ability would be unlocked. Thats just the way I look at it, I love all the possibilities and can't wait for part 2 of the season

Daniel.

That's what I loved about the first season. It's that sense of discovery, of wonderment. The idea that anything could happen, and there were so many unexplained aspects of the abilities everyone has.

The show has turned into a killing fest. Stupid characters dying needlessly every episode. It's like guess who's gonna die today? Lets choose names out of a hat!

They need to bring a cohesion to show that they lost at the end of season 1. They need one antagonist, and direction, a goal for all the heroes to unite against. It looks like they might actually get it in the form of Nathan. He could be like the Lex Luthor of the Heroes Universe.

I really like the idea of Nathan and Peter being at odds with eachother. They both want to save the world, but they disagree on how it should be done.

This seems to be the main focus of Volume 4:Fugitives so im really excited because they have so much potential to turn this sinking ship around.

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My favorite scene this season has to be the one where Hiro meets his mother as an adult. It gave some great character insight, and really allowed us viewers to empathize and relate to Hiro. This is really what the show is lacking right now. Character empathy. If we can't relate to the characters, we won't be cheering for them. The original appeal of the show was that these were just normal people, like you and I, they just happened to be gifted with amazing abilities.

its like, what would YOU do if you were Peter Petrelli?

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My biggest concern is the fact that they WONT turn it around. Its such a good show to let it go down the drains is just dumb. And I agree the death-fest that was heroes was getting entirely out of control, hopefully they will take note and change things for the future. Sadly either way I'll be watching it

ANVIL

its always been a death fest! sylar has been killing people almost every episode lol

Daniel.

thats the thing, it was just sylar. he was the main antagonist. now everyone is killing everyone.

i think its great that they were trying to show how even heroes, can be viewed as villains, and how the lines can be blurred. but did they really need to do that with EVERY single character?

we still need to have a clear cut idea of right and wrong. like one intensely evil sadistic character, and one innately good character. Peter and Sylar allllllmmooost fit those archetypes. They fucked up when they made Sylar good for a few eps....

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woodchuck

well this goes against my last post, but here is my theory.

ando's power amplifies others - maybe to the point were their powers glitch and go bonkers. ando learns how to throw is amp spark to hiro (the hadoken we saw on the catwalk) and hiro disappears because he couldn't control his powers when he got hit by the spark. so hiro was not killed but just got got by his own powers via ando.

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Daniel.

that sounds like the most plausible explanation. +rep

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ANVIL

i think part of the appeal is there is no clear line on who is a "good guy" and who is a "Bad guy"

its so typical for it to be that way.

Daniel.

true, but like i said above did they have to blur the lines for EVERY character?

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Sleepy240

Exactly there needs to be those characters that are CLEARLY "good" and CLEARLY "evil" otherwise IMO its kinda boring. Its everybody against everybody instead of good against evil, heroes against villians.

ANVIL

i think its pretty well balanced. but generally :Parkman is a good guy. Clair is a good guy. Hiro is a good guy. Sylar is a bad guy. peters dad is a bad guy.

but its really blurred because most of the characters have their own goals. like noah just wants to protect clair/stop sylar, so whatever side thats on is where he is. and shuresh just wants to get fixed so who ever makes him/backs him up is what side hes going to be on.

i dunno if that made sense but im just really bored at work

Sleepy240

Im in the same boat, bored at work haha...

But back to OP, somebody else mentioned unlike in the first season the universal goal of the characters is gone. Everybody is for themselves which makes it kinda dull. I mean not to be nit picking but what makes Clair/Hiro/Parkman a good guy, or Sylar etc a bad guy for that matter when there is no universally good or bad cause

ANVIL

basically sylar wants every ability. willing to kill anyone to get what he wants. that usually means ur a bad guy.

and for the good guys, they are trying to stop the formula, ie saving the world.

its pretty clear to me. im just too lazy to type it all out.

Daniel.

there's no sense of imminent danger in this season though. in season 1, it was the fate of new york city. it was going to get blown up! they were doing whatever they could to save the cheerleader to save the world and to save new york city.

with the formula, its like well maybe if this gets into the wrong hands it might be bad for us sometime in the distant future blah blah blah.

there needs to be this stigma hanging over them. this dark cloud of evil that is always lurking in every scene to hammer in the fact that if the true Heroes don't act, then some seriously fucked up shit is going to happen to everyone right away.

anyone else notice that there's no longer any suspense in the show?

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Sleepy240

You pretty much put the head on the nail with what i was trying to say! Also I do think there is a lack of suspense along with a lack of intensity. I think its been rather

BOROSUN

so, sylar is dead for good?

i have a feeling angela removed the glass.

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Daniel.

no sylar doesn't die. it just knocks him out as long as the glass is stuck. it cuts off his brain stem from the rest of his body rendering him useless.

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lok

I am pretty sure peter has all of his old powers back.

The cut on his face heaedl it self but made a scar.

40daws

I like how they are following the X-Men type story line in February. I think it was the Isle of Genosha arc where all the mutants where rounded up and had to escape. Jim Lee art and all.

BOROSUN

he's still gonna get burned to the bones. how is he going to heal from that?

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Flipzide

Ando has powers, woo!

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240love

i always wanted to watch this show, anywhere i can catch up with episodes online?

LeftNutOfGowd

NetFlix lol that's where I caught up at lol

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ANVIL

i dont remember exactly where but i caught up watching online. i searched watch heroes online on google until i found one. didnt take too long

smellslikecurry

last episode blew

this season blew

first season was easily the best

we need those writers back

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karl wasabi

Oh damn. I didn't know that there were different writers from the different seasons.

I think Sylar might really be gone for good. He is knocked out during the Primatech explosion. He is a good character in that he is entertaining to watch.

I was bummed when they killed off Kristen Bell from the show.

Awesome that Ando has powers.

Next season looks...ehhh...it's hard to tell.

I thought it was funny how "Barrack Obama" showed up at the end of the last episode.

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Netflix...Riiight. LOL!

Yeah, that was pretty funny.


Overall, it was a good season (Volume or whatever). Kept me entertained. I dont know about Sylar being gone for good though. Unless he disintagrated (which I doubt), they're going to find a way to revive him next volume. Like, when Claire died in the first season. Remember the autopsy table?

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TheWolf

"save the world" is starting to sound like "world peace" at a beauty pageant.. everyone wants it but no one has any real plan that exists for more than 10 minutes... viewers who would be interested in this show see the "round up all the mutants" story line as ripping xmen.. while heroes was original, if they follow that xmen story line then it's just gonna tank.. I already feel like the patrelli parents are starting out like a magneto xavier thing... they each have their own organization.. their favorite (heroes) mutants.. both were striking at each other until someone declares all mutants are bad and then *gasp* they'll team up to fight the gov't.. pretty soon we'll have a guy whos ability is to grow blades out of him and another who can throw explosive playing cards... and how hasn't the hatian died yet? he's dangerous to both sides and has no offensive or defensive powers.. that man is a moving death warrant from 100 yards and a hunting rifle. And why is Noah the only human (non hero) company man. Everyone else seems to have abilities. That would be crazy if he got a hold of some of the formula and got abilities.

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