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Peter_North · 12-12-2007, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by VROOOM

my sr had 3 in full exhaust front mount an intake and it ran 14.0. the motor in my civic ran 12.7 in a 4 door integra. hmm wonder what would win

Got any proof? Theres people on here with low 12 second timeslips that are still running stop turbo SR's

You're just a honda fanboy. FWD sucks, and no matter how you look at it 240's are better drag platforms than anything FWD, especially honduhs.

VROOOM · 12-12-2007, 12:25 PM

i had a sr powered 240sx in 1999 yeah im honda fan boy

Peter_North · 12-12-2007, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by VROOOM

i had a sr powered 240sx in 1999 yeah im honda fan boy

You obviously are, talking about an imagenary 4 door 12 second integra. You honda people always bothered the crap out of me when I owned a T28 KA. Always wanting to race me, I risk getting a ticket and my license revoked hoping to get a good race but none could even come close to keeping up, even a " built " boosted GSR hatch. Seems like every honda kid wants a piece of the 240sx, envy much?

SHIFT_*grind* · 12-12-2007, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_North

Theres people on here with low 12 second timeslips that are still running stop turbo SR's

Got any proof?

Can we stop the bench racing and ignorant blanket statements, please?

VROOOM · 12-12-2007, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_North

You obviously are, talking about an imagenary 4 door 12 second integra. You honda people always bothered the crap out of me when I owned a T28 KA. Always wanting to race me, I risk getting a ticket and my license revoked hoping to get a good race but none could even come close to keeping up, even a " built " boosted GSR hatch. Seems like every honda kid wants a piece of the 240sx, envy much?

i respect all fast cars, unlike you. i know that hondas can be fast, you seem to deny that

Peter_North · 12-12-2007, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by VROOOM

i respect all fast cars, unlike you. i know that hondas can be fast, you seem to deny that

I know they can be fast, its still easier to make a 240 faster and at the end of the day it isnt an annoying ugly little hatchback. 240s are at least RWD and look nice.

SHIFT_*grind* · 12-12-2007, 12:43 PM

Uhh...

S2000s are A) not ugly, B) not hatchbacks (which most S13s are, by the way), and C) not FWD.

......

Peter_North · 12-12-2007, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SHIFT_*grind*

Uhh...

S2000s are A) not ugly, B) not hatchbacks (which most S13s are, by the way), and C) not FWD.

......

I'm taling about civics which I find ugly, and the S2000 I dont find very good looking either. Oh btw, the 240s are actually FASTBACKS, which arent the same as hatchbacks. You wouldnt call a 350z a hatchback would you? No...

*ManoNegra* · 12-12-2007, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by nightshiftgarage

for the record , ive owned a 99 gsr integra. i hated it and wasnt very impressed after i was told how great they are by the honda kids. v tech smeetech

Knew a guy with one years ago with just a few suspension mods. De-baged it would make an ideal daily driver imo.

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Originally Posted by HaLo

For the record, I owned a SR'd 240sx... and it was slower at 7 psi on the track, on a drag strip, at everything. And it did horrible gas mileage too...

I thought S2000s and 240s had similar gas mileage, ~25mpg or so, no? Anyways, I would love an S2000 but two seater and high insurance just doesn't make it very practical to me.

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Originally Posted by fromxtor

I stopped reading super street due to their constant KA bashing. Seems the writing staff there is way too JDM to ever think about turboing a KA.

Whatever sells the mags...

Don't get the Honda bashing going on, they're reliable capable cars. I'd rock an EG6 or EK9 as a daily. It's the fanboys, Honda and Nissan alike that kill it either way.

Peter_North · 12-12-2007, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ManoNegra

Don't get the Honda bashing going on, they're reliable capable cars. I'd rock an EG6 or EK9 as a daily. It's the fanboys, Honda and Nissan alike that kill it either way.

Yea for a daily...anything other than that is just pointless with a honda.

SHIFT_*grind* · 12-12-2007, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_North

which arent the same as hatchbacks.

Oh God. Explain to me the difference, then, in painstaking detail.

Hatchback, fastback, liftback, whatever the hell you want to call it. It's a big-ass piece of glass that lifts up to reveal a trunk, or trunk-like compartment.

Peter_North · 12-12-2007, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SHIFT_*grind*

Oh God. Explain to me the difference, then, in painstaking detail.

Hatchback, fastback, liftback, whatever the hell you want to call it. It's a big-ass piece of glass that lifts up to reveal a trunk, or trunk-like compartment.

Its still not a hatchback, not a coupe either obviously, but not a hatch. Does a 240sx look anything like a crx? How about a mid 90s civic? No it does not.

SHIFT_*grind* · 12-12-2007, 01:02 PM

Then why does everybody who owns one call it a hatch. Dude.

Never mind.

PRADOgy · 12-12-2007, 01:02 PM

ok.. if you guys are talking about drag racing this little argument will never end... all in all ZERO-YON blows any who..

f20c engine is really fun.. but in order to make big power in that engine you need a big bank account..

that engine NA is real fun.. i dont see a point in boosting it.. if thats the case your SR or RB or hell even 1J options are far beyond that F20/22c ..in a financial or HP point of view

markyboi · 12-12-2007, 01:04 PM

i would love to have a stock bodied (ek, dc integra or a si coupe) with a k20 swap as a dd.

markyboi · 12-12-2007, 01:05 PM

well, his "dictionary/encyclopedia" describes hatchback as a civic..

so if it's a r32 golf, he wouldnt call it a hatchback because its not a civic

Peter_North · 12-12-2007, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by markyboi

well, his "dictionary/encyclopedia" describes hatchback as a civic..

so if it's a r32 golf, he wouldnt call it a hatchback because its not a civic

The 240sx does not look anything like an R32 golf. Those are traditional "hot hatches "

Do you people know anything about cars or what? Am I the only one here that knows other things about cars than " drift, skyline, Volk, SR20det, JDM,body kit " ?

SHIFT_*grind* · 12-12-2007, 01:11 PM

OK. Since you know so much about cars, I'll ask you one more time.

Explain to me the definition of a hatchback.

THEN, explain to me the definition of a fastback.

DEFINITION. Which means "a civic is a hatch, a 240 is not" DOESN'T COUNT.

markyboi · 12-12-2007, 01:11 PM

read and learn:

http://www.reference.com/search?q=hatchback

Peter_North · 12-12-2007, 01:19 PM

A quick google search. Notice, 1 looks like an ugly bubble, the other looks like a sports car.

markyboi · 12-12-2007, 01:21 PM

^^^yeahp, his definition of hatchback is a civic...its like talking to a wall

SHIFT_*grind* · 12-12-2007, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_North

A quick google search. Notice, 1 looks like an ugly bubble, the other looks like a sports car.

Again, definition is based on what you think it looks like. Give me a definition, IN WORDS. Because, you know, that's what definitions are written in.

By the way, the first 10 pages of a Google image search of "fastback" are composed entirely of 1st generation Mustangs. No 240s to be found.

MY GOD I'M GETTING DUMBER WITH EVERY POST

codyace · 12-12-2007, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Kn1ves

i love honda and their motors... but putting an F20 on a car with an already capable engine replacement/engine is pretty dumb considering it would require a lot more prep to turbo it.

I wouldn't be calling a KA capable of that HP for , because to make it reliable is going to cost a chunk of change too. Please, no need for the 1-5 guys with 400 whp on their cars, as I'll post 50 who have blown up at 250hp.

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Originally Posted by Kn1ves

lets put it this way, its like putting a LS1 into a Mustang. Sure you can do it, but why? The Mustangs V8 is already capable..

I'll keep the comment in regard to Fox bodies, because a stock LS1 will run the balls off of anything this side of a stroked 347. An ls1 fox with a decent driver is an easy 11 second car. I think there are guys with suspension and slicks running high 10's with them too.

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Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

That's because you, for some unknown reason, actually like the SR20DET.

Who doesn't like SR's?

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Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

NA F20C could make 300hp easily, while weighing 100 pounds less than an SR with a front mount.

300 hp easy in a s2k? Maybe with a 100 shot.

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Originally Posted by HaLo

Who cares about peak torque...? On a road course (track), when you stay in your powerband, low end torque is totally irrelevant.

QFT. When you're above 4/5k all the time, torque doesn't gain or make much of a difference (realitivly speaking of course).

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Originally Posted by Peter_North

A stock SR usually dynos at 180whp.

Catback + FMIC + MBC + tuning = bye bye civic

Maybe versus a stock GSR or a D series

Not if the Little civic has a worked B18 or even better a worked k20, or a k20/k24.

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Originally Posted by PRADOgy

here you go friend,

I assume you don't go to track days much...

I think it's a neat swap, perfect for magazine exposure!

RJayS. · 12-12-2007, 09:44 PM

i have a 2001 civic ex and have nothing against honda.
but of course my SR'd 240 is funner to drive but i like RWD better and the civic has a slow D series engine great on gas. there is only one car company i dislike but i wont bring that up.

KA24DESOneThree · 12-12-2007, 11:23 PM

Who said whp?

Who said stock displacement?

I used to build Porsche engines, so easy is a relative term.

Besides, we stray from my point.

Lighter-than-stock engine plus lighter-than-stock car means better weight distribution and insane response.

*DALAZ_68* · 12-13-2007, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ThatGuy

Nah, the 240 owner hated torque.

nice one lol

*racepar1* · 12-15-2007, 10:30 PM

WOW all of you missed the whole point of the swap! The point was to gain reliability. The sr20's valvetrain sucks, period. Whatever nissan engineer decided to put rocker arms on a DOHC high-revving turbo engine should be HANGED BY THE BALLS! They had multiple valvetrain failures on his previous car so they decided to try something different. I personally don't like the swap, but at least it had a point.

*Pank* · 12-16-2007, 12:16 AM

if the point was reliability, why isn't he swapping a mercedes diesel into it?

*racepar1* · 12-16-2007, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Pank

if the point was reliability, why isn't he swapping a mercedes diesel into it?

Your sarcasm is staggering. LOL Seriously though they covered the swap and interviewed them in (ugh!) import tuner. According to the interview the primary reason was reliability. God I feel like such a ricer for mentioning import tuner!

*drift freaq* · 12-16-2007, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SHIFT_*grind*

Again, definition is based on what you think it looks like. Give me a definition, IN WORDS. Because, you know, that's what definitions are written in.

By the way, the first 10 pages of a Google image search of "fastback" are composed entirely of 1st generation Mustangs. No 240s to be found.

MY GOD I'M GETTING DUMBER WITH EVERY POST

Well if you look up the 180sx and the 240sx Fastback in all Nissan info you will discover that yes S13 Fastbacks are fastbacks as designated by the parent company. Now you can be uninformed and call it a hatch like most ex honda people do as well as less educated people do. Though in true sense of the term its a Fastback as is a 240z regardless of it having a deck lid(that Honda and lazy people call hatchs).
Hell even I have called it a hatch inadvertently because so many people say it and I hear them saying it so often. It does not make it true or right. Its a fastback.

P.s. this is not a flame of you its a statement of facts. Now quite arguing over it and get back on topic.

12-12-2007, 01:19 PM	#80
Peter_North Leaky Injector Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: ur girl house Posts: 85 Trader Rating: (0)	A quick google search. Notice, 1 looks like an ugly bubble, the other looks like a sports car. __________________ 1992 240sx fastback

12-12-2007, 11:23 PM	#85
KA24DESOneThree Nissanaholic! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: N. SD County SoCal Age: 23 Posts: 2,038 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: KA24DESOneThree	Who said whp? Who said stock displacement? I used to build Porsche engines, so easy is a relative term. Besides, we stray from my point. Lighter-than-stock engine plus lighter-than-stock car means better weight distribution and insane response. __________________ Your copycat car reflects your copycat life. Banned- Calguns.net 1/4/09

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12-12-2007, 12:25 PM	#62
VROOOM Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: LONG BEACH Age: 31 Posts: 1,980 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: VROOOM	i had a sr powered 240sx in 1999 yeah im honda fan boy

12-12-2007, 01:02 PM	#74
PRADOgy Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Felony Flats Age: 23 Posts: 1,003 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: PRADOgy	ok.. if you guys are talking about drag racing this little argument will never end... all in all ZERO-YON blows any who.. f20c engine is really fun.. but in order to make big power in that engine you need a big bank account.. that engine NA is real fun.. i dont see a point in boosting it.. if thats the case your SR or RB or hell even 1J options are far beyond that F20/22c ..in a financial or HP point of view

12-12-2007, 01:04 PM	#75
markyboi Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: california Posts: 1,100 Trader Rating: (0)	i would love to have a stock bodied (ek, dc integra or a si coupe) with a k20 swap as a dd.

12-12-2007, 01:05 PM	#76
markyboi Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: california Posts: 1,100 Trader Rating: (0)	well, his "dictionary/encyclopedia" describes hatchback as a civic.. so if it's a r32 golf, he wouldnt call it a hatchback because its not a civic

12-12-2007, 01:11 PM	#79
markyboi Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: california Posts: 1,100 Trader Rating: (0)	read and learn: http://www.reference.com/search?q=hatchback

12-12-2007, 01:21 PM	#81
markyboi Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: california Posts: 1,100 Trader Rating: (0)	^^^yeahp, his definition of hatchback is a civic...its like talking to a wall

12-12-2007, 09:44 PM	#84
RJayS. Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NE Posts: 122 Trader Rating: (0)	i have a 2001 civic ex and have nothing against honda. but of course my SR'd 240 is funner to drive but i like RWD better and the civic has a slow D series engine great on gas. there is only one car company i dislike but i wont bring that up.

12-15-2007, 10:30 PM	#87
racepar1 can't knock the hustle Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: reseda, CA Age: 26 Posts: 4,543 Trader Rating: (37) Rides Gallery: racepar1	WOW all of you missed the whole point of the swap! The point was to gain reliability. The sr20's valvetrain sucks, period. Whatever nissan engineer decided to put rocker arms on a DOHC high-revving turbo engine should be HANGED BY THE BALLS! They had multiple valvetrain failures on his previous car so they decided to try something different. I personally don't like the swap, but at least it had a point.

12-16-2007, 12:16 AM	#88
Pank we dont dance anymore Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Charlotte, NC Age: 27 Posts: 3,505 Trader Rating: (0)	if the point was reliability, why isn't he swapping a mercedes diesel into it?

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