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KA24DESOneThree · 12-11-2007, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by steve shadows

I find it retarded

That's because you, for some unknown reason, actually like the SR20DET.

NA F20C could make 300hp easily, while weighing 100 pounds less than an SR with a front mount.

*Yuri* · 12-11-2007, 04:14 PM

I bought the magazine.
I don't know why.
I was reading an article, and every paragraph had at least two references to "hyphy."

As a result, I'm never buying another issue.

Peter_North · 12-11-2007, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

NA F20C could make 300hp easily

....................rofl

KA24DESOneThree · 12-11-2007, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_North

....................rofl

In a 2250lb car, 300hp is nothing to laugh at.

yarou · 12-11-2007, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

That's because you, for some unknown reason, actually like the SR20DET.

NA F20C could make 300hp easily, while weighing 100 pounds less than an SR with a front mount.

NA 300hp is by no means "easy" for the f20c

cdlong · 12-11-2007, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Yuri

I was reading an article, and every paragraph had at least two references to "hyphy."

this "hyphy"? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyphy

why?

nightshiftgarage · 12-11-2007, 06:39 PM

300 hp in a honda means like 198 lbs. of tourqe. lol what turds , i hate hondas. f20c is a good replacement for like a 4age which , if im not mistaken , is also lacking in the tourqe dept. not a sr or ka

yarou · 12-11-2007, 07:27 PM

NA 300hp f20c also costs way too fucking much and is totally not worth it when you can get similar power in an sr or ka for much much much less.

*HaLo* · 12-11-2007, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by nightshiftgarage

300 hp in a honda means like 198 lbs. of tourqe. lol what turds , i hate hondas. f20c is a good replacement for like a 4age which , if im not mistaken , is also lacking in the tourqe dept. not a sr or ka

Still is faster... People like you don't get that most VTEC engine have a totally flat torque curve. So 154lbs of torque is 150+ lbs from 1000 to 9000 rpm.

Who cares about peak torque...? On a road course (track), when you stay in your powerband, low end torque is totally irrelevant.

Oh yeah, and 300hp n/a on a F20C is nearly impossible unless you dish out tons of money. The engine is almost maxed out from factory.

yarou · 12-11-2007, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by HaLo

Still is faster... People like you don't get that most VTEC engine have a totally flat torque curve. So 154lbs of torque is 150+ lbs from 1000 to 9000 rpm.

Who cares about peak torque...? On a road course (track), when you stay in your powerband, low end torque is totally irrelevant.

Oh yeah, and 300hp n/a on a F20C is nearly impossible unless you dish out tons of money. The engine is almost maxed out from factory.

Nothing but love here, I own an 02'. I just don't think its worth the cost for the swap

*HaLo* · 12-11-2007, 07:40 PM

That I agree.. Added to the fast that it was turboed... But who cares, I just hate the "torque" bashing... The F20C is of the best 4cyl in the world... (N/A that is)

nightshiftgarage · 12-11-2007, 08:08 PM

for the record , ive owned a 99 gsr integra. i hated it and wasnt very impressed after i was told how great they are by the honda kids. v tech smeetech

yarou · 12-11-2007, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by nightshiftgarage

for the record , ive owned a 99 gsr integra. i hated it and wasnt very impressed after i was told how great they are by the honda kids. v tech smeetech

different strokes

*ms!3* · 12-11-2007, 08:24 PM

all this talk and no link yet? meh

i remember about a year ago i saw an f20 swapped into a beat up white coupe on ebay. kinda cool in a way. too much work imo tho.

*HaLo* · 12-11-2007, 08:26 PM

For the record, I owned a SR'd 240sx... and it was slower at 7 psi on the track, on a drag strip, at everything. And it did horrible gas mileage too...

Peter_North · 12-11-2007, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

In a 2250lb car, 300hp is nothing to laugh at.

I know that, I was laughing at the fact that you think 300whp is easy to get out of an NA f20, turbo s2ks have dynoed under that.

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Originally Posted by HaLo

For the record, I owned a SR'd 240sx... and it was slower at 7 psi on the track, on a drag strip, at everything. And it did horrible gas mileage too...

Yay lets compare a shitty stock redtop swapped into a 240 to a $30,000 sports car.

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Originally Posted by nightshiftgarage

300 hp in a honda means like 198 lbs. of tourqe. lol what turds , i hate hondas. f20c is a good replacement for like a 4age which , if im not mistaken , is also lacking in the tourqe dept. not a sr or ka

I agree, hondas are retared. The only imports I like are Nissans and subarus....the rest are pointless.

SHIFT_*grind* · 12-12-2007, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by yarou

NA 300hp is by no means "easy" for the f20c

For real. Try getting 300 horses, N/A, out of *ANY* 2.0L engine (or 2.2L for that matter, if you want to try it with an AP2). There's not a damn thing that's "easy" about that, and it certainly wouldn't be cheap.

For what it's worth, my friend used to have an S2K and he took me for a ride in it a few times. I never drove it, but I didn't have to; I had more fun riding shotgun than I ever have in any other car. Who cares if you have to rev it to make power, and if it's actually not quite as fast as X car with Y mods? With the top down and the thing screaming up to 9K on every shift, it sure as hell feels like you hit 100 pretty quick

Such fun cars; if I can afford it in the next couple of years, it'll probably be my next purchase, whether it's slower than my S13 or not =P

*fromxtor* · 12-12-2007, 07:04 AM

I stopped reading super street due to their constant KA bashing. Seems the writing staff there is way too JDM to ever think about turboing a KA.

***ThatGuy*** · 12-12-2007, 08:31 AM

That is because they invented "JDM". It was their word to start with, so they are gonna ride the hell out of it.

Peter_North · 12-12-2007, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ThatGuy

That is because they invented "JDM". It was their word to start with, so they are gonna ride the hell out of it.

Yup, same with "time attack"

*HaLo* · 12-12-2007, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_North

Yay lets compare a shitty stock redtop swapped into a 240 to a $30,000 sports car.

BTW, that was my "shitty stock redtop swapped" 240sx: http://zilvia.net/f/gallery-8.html

nightshiftgarage · 12-12-2007, 10:10 AM

ok im over it

PRADOgy · 12-12-2007, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by HaLo

Trust me, on a track, you will always feel lag. Always.

And when I meant faster, I meant on a track, not on illegal highway or street races...

here you go friend,

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.p...06#post1638206

PRADOgy · 12-12-2007, 10:41 AM

f20c NA in a 240... pretty cool i guess.. faster than a ka and funner than a KA.. but dropping it in to boost it.. yeah stoopid!.. dont need to explain myself why.. it just is.

Peter_North · 12-12-2007, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by HaLo

BTW, that was my "shitty stock redtop swapped" 240sx: http://www.zilvia.net/f/vbpicgallery.php?do=view&g=8

Looks good, but what I meant was an old ass redtop on 7 psi is by no means fast.

*HaLo* · 12-12-2007, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by PRADOgy

here you go friend,

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.p...06#post1638206

Most of the S2000 were faster... but the comparisom is bogus, it's not the same driver in the cars...

*HaLo* · 12-12-2007, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_North

Looks good, but what I meant was an old ass redtop on 7 psi is by no means fast.

But it has way more torque than a F20C...

And power was similar to F20C. I mean, 240hp on that redtop with all these boltons should match up no?

Anyways, I am just playing devil's advocate for all you Honda bashers... People need to understand that making power N/A = revving it up. And N/A, Torque is limited to whatever displacement can offer.

Let's not start talking about SR20 (N/A) torque. that is scary, even for the SR20VE.

VROOOM · 12-12-2007, 11:12 AM

ive owned a 194 whp b18c powered hatch and a sr powered 240sx. civic was faster in a straight line by far, but it wasnt as fun to drive. having all that torque helps alot and makes things more interesting. but dont bash honda's they are the reason good parts are available for our cars.

Peter_North · 12-12-2007, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by VROOOM

ive owned a 194 whp b18c powered hatch and a sr powered 240sx. civic was faster in a straight line by far, but it wasnt as fun to drive. having all that torque helps alot and makes things more interesting. but dont bash honda's they are the reason good parts are available for our cars.

A stock SR usually dynos at 180whp.

Catback + FMIC + MBC + tuning = bye bye civic

VROOOM · 12-12-2007, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_North

A stock SR usually dynos at 180whp.

Catback + FMIC + MBC + tuning = bye bye civic

my sr had 3 in full exhaust front mount an intake and it ran 14.0. the motor in my civic ran 12.7 in a 4 door integra. hmm wonder what would win

12-11-2007, 04:14 PM	#32
Yuri Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Long Beach Age: 28 Posts: 3,354 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Yuri	I bought the magazine. I don't know why. I was reading an article, and every paragraph had at least two references to "hyphy." As a result, I'm never buying another issue. __________________

12-11-2007, 06:39 PM	#37
nightshiftgarage Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: tn Age: 26 Posts: 169 Trader Rating: (0)	300 hp in a honda means like 198 lbs. of tourqe. lol what turds , i hate hondas. f20c is a good replacement for like a 4age which , if im not mistaken , is also lacking in the tourqe dept. not a sr or ka __________________ "NIGHTSHIFT-GARAGE"

12-11-2007, 07:27 PM	#38
yarou Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 579 Trader Rating: (4)	NA 300hp f20c also costs way too fucking much and is totally not worth it when you can get similar power in an sr or ka for much much much less. __________________ jumbosandbox.blogspot.com

12-11-2007, 07:40 PM	#41
HaLo from Canada, eh! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Montreal, Quebec Age: 31 Posts: 5,231 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: HaLo	That I agree.. Added to the fast that it was turboed... But who cares, I just hate the "torque" bashing... The F20C is of the best 4cyl in the world... (N/A that is) __________________ -> HaLo All-around fun car: 01 GPW Honda S2000 -> stock Daily Driver: 2006 Dark Blue Civic DX-G w/Nothing PARTED: 93 Pearl White 240SX LE Fastback w/SR20DET SOLD: 93 Super White 240SX SE Convertible w/Silvia Front

12-11-2007, 08:08 PM	#42
nightshiftgarage Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: tn Age: 26 Posts: 169 Trader Rating: (0)	for the record , ive owned a 99 gsr integra. i hated it and wasnt very impressed after i was told how great they are by the honda kids. v tech smeetech __________________ "NIGHTSHIFT-GARAGE"

12-11-2007, 08:24 PM	#44
ms!3 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: USA Age: 20 Posts: 1,377 Trader Rating: (5)	all this talk and no link yet? meh i remember about a year ago i saw an f20 swapped into a beat up white coupe on ebay. kinda cool in a way. too much work imo tho. __________________ http://wonvia.blogspot.com/

12-11-2007, 08:26 PM	#45
HaLo from Canada, eh! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Montreal, Quebec Age: 31 Posts: 5,231 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: HaLo	For the record, I owned a SR'd 240sx... and it was slower at 7 psi on the track, on a drag strip, at everything. And it did horrible gas mileage too... __________________ -> HaLo All-around fun car: 01 GPW Honda S2000 -> stock Daily Driver: 2006 Dark Blue Civic DX-G w/Nothing PARTED: 93 Pearl White 240SX LE Fastback w/SR20DET SOLD: 93 Super White 240SX SE Convertible w/Silvia Front

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12-12-2007, 07:04 AM	#48
fromxtor Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NC Age: 29 Posts: 2,976 Trader Rating: (21)	I stopped reading super street due to their constant KA bashing. Seems the writing staff there is way too JDM to ever think about turboing a KA. __________________ Seller feedback>>http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.p...light=fromxtor

12-12-2007, 08:31 AM	#49
*ThatGuy* Zilvia's Michael Weston Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: MCAS New River, NC Age: 30 Posts: 18,029 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: ThatGuy	That is because they invented "JDM". It was their word to start with, so they are gonna ride the hell out of it. __________________ YES, I have a 240sx. NO, it doesn't have an SR. NO, I don't drift. NO, it's not for sale!

12-12-2007, 10:10 AM	#52
nightshiftgarage Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: tn Age: 26 Posts: 169 Trader Rating: (0)	ok im over it __________________ "NIGHTSHIFT-GARAGE"

12-12-2007, 10:41 AM	#54
PRADOgy Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Felony Flats Age: 24 Posts: 1,025 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: PRADOgy	f20c NA in a 240... pretty cool i guess.. faster than a ka and funner than a KA.. but dropping it in to boost it.. yeah stoopid!.. dont need to explain myself why.. it just is. __________________ Myspace.com/DAYVkaos (Minimal Techno)

12-12-2007, 11:12 AM	#58
VROOOM Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: LONG BEACH Age: 32 Posts: 2,040 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: VROOOM	ive owned a 194 whp b18c powered hatch and a sr powered 240sx. civic was faster in a straight line by far, but it wasnt as fun to drive. having all that torque helps alot and makes things more interesting. but dont bash honda's they are the reason good parts are available for our cars.

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