unwed_transient

lol.


just lol.


+1 meph

steve shadows

gosh no rep for dolphin sex!

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lol i love how they're wearing leather outfits and eating ribs/chicken....good info nonetheless

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steve shadows

ok now lets all go to sea world with boxs of durex and have a greater appreciation for the sea mammel who if erect would kill us...

reminds me of that simpsons episode mroe and more

youtube it anyone?

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DUFFM4N

just the episode i was thinking when i saw the groundskeeper willie pic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tNHUIk4Yuk

"bottle nosed bruises, blowhole burns, flipper marks...this looks like the work of rowdy teens, lou cancel the prom!"

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Cash

Please don't tell me I'm the only one that just HAD to watch all the other massacre videos including the cow massacre, pig massacre, and chicken massacre.

Tenchuu

it's not a massacre if it is an animal used for food.


and all that talk makes me hungry. I perfer tuna with a high dolphin content to be honest. it's brain food. and i love sushi, which would be horrendous for m an animal rights point. killing them and eating them raw.

Tenchuu

to quote Peter on the family guy:

i can't tell you what a blow hole is for, but i can tell you what it's not for and why we are never allowed back in Sea World again.....

Hondamatic

yeah its sad to watch animals suffer but ill remain a meat eater, because no matter what, you cant stop something that has been going on for thousands of years

and meat tastes good

Chasmoore04

not humane...

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redsuns3838

check out the way americans treat cattle. makes you think twice about eating a burger. until you stop eating burgers you cant really say much about killing of dolphins

downshift_sideways

Poor Dolphins.
They never leave thier hurt family behind. Very sad.

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redsuns3838

its inhumane. but its no worse than what happens every day in america with cattle. until ppl clean up their own act locally and stop eating beef, I think its stupid to point a finger at japan and complain.

the US Slaughters 10 times more cows than japan does dolphins. Not to mention those cows contribute to Ozone deterioration and degrading the environment, are pumped full of hormones, and are less healthy than fish meat.

Just cuz dolphins are cute and cuddly ppl get upset, well it shows u how shallow ppl can be. If its ugly they dont mind seeing an animal die brutally (IE cows, pigs, etc) But if its cute and cuddly they have to change the world!

downshift_sideways

Good point /\

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kdashy

It really is no different than any other meat industry.

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TurDz

Not just cattle....


Last year during college, I watched some horrible independent local TV station which showed the way some US food companies raise/slaughter animals.

One animal that came to mind were chickens. Since they're so small, and the chicken is one of the prime meat choices in the US, companies have come up with very efficient methods.

Chicken eggs: The scene I saw showed them all crammed into cages, maybe 2 chickens for every 1x1 ft. area. It was insane. They were raised to never even walk or get out of the cage. The chicken had boils all over their face from infection, and their wings were grafted to the cages. It was a football field sized room, and all below them was at least 5 feet of feces. Looked like a landfill.

Chicken meat: Imagine a clothsline type of conveyer belt. Chicken were hung from their feet, and as they moved down the line, their necks ran into an automated blade that slit their throats and broke their necks simultaneously. I think it was a rate of at least 1 chicken per second.

oh, and the machine that cuts of their beaks at about the same rate:


btw, I think one of the chicken farms mentioned was Tyson's..so I don't really buy from them anymore.

Also, you can watch this video. KFC's House of Horror. Stomping, kicking, and throwing chickens against a wall.


I guess what I really want to say is I'm fine with efficient methods, but some places just go too far in terms of being inhumane. Like when the animals are raised, they aren't even acknowledged as living beings, but just profit. That's why I really support animal foods which come from farms who treat animals with respect. Stuff like walking space, clean environments, and good feed.


That footage of dolphin killing wasn't too bad for me, but since I've always liked dophins and somewhat thought of them as endangered species (are they?), it makes me sad to watch those super intelligent, Marine World entertaining creatures die. I grew up always seeing them as kinda like friendly marine pets.

If anyone was surprised how they cut their thoats that way, it's exactly the same way with cows and pigs. Except they hoist them on their hind legs, slit their throat, and wait while the blood comes out and goes into the drains of the floor.

Interesting tidbit: You know the standing elephants that Ringling Brothers Circus shows? They're trained to do that with electrical tazers and sharp pointed staffs which they stab into their legs. If they fail to follow orders, they're stabbed/tazed until they listen. It was very sad footage.

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DoriftoPnoy

wow that was pretty disgusting.

and to think that dolphins are almost as intelligent as chimpanzees who are almost like us. kinda like killing humans. almost.

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s13silady

fuck.... i didnt think that video was going to be bad.... so i watched it.... and i was eating a tuna sandwhich from togos..... even though it was a different kind of fish.i still felt bad..













so i closed the vid and kept eating cuz i was hungry.....

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redsuns3838

A few points to note:

1) Slitting an animals throat while a greusome sight, has a reason. By slitting the throat you allow the blood to flow OUT of the animal, so that when you eat the meat, it isnt filled with blood. Its pretty much a standard practice. Ill agree it isnt pleasant to watch but if you are going to eat the meat, its can keep it cleaner.

2) S13silady, canned tuna often contains dolphin meat (although not a large percent) so you might have in fact been eating dolphin. @_@ haha.

3) Whale meat or Dolphin meat is NOT a cheap thing, nor every day meal in japan. They dont eat this like americans eat cheeseburgers. and What you saw int he video was not an every day thing. Killing millions of cattle and poultry in america however IS.

4) Atleast the dolphins are allowed ot live in the wild and are just fished once in a while. Unlike cattle and poultry and pigs which live their entire life on a farm in horrid conditions, and forced to live with their own feces. I mean do you really want to eat something that lies in its own shit for half the day, and is then cut apart without any cleansing of its body? Not to mention the hormones they are fed.


Everyone should read fast food nation and it will make you think twice about eating beef, and poultry!

I just think its funny how half the people that are probly so opposed to this went out and had a cheeseburger that evening without a second though hehe. But im not judgin anyone , just sharing my opinions. =)

illvialuver

Okay I see both sides , yes Mr. mephistophelis the japanese will probably kill the last fish on earth and wont look back. and yeah people tend to like dolphines, and maybe the japanese se dolphines as food , but maybe if they made a cartoon character like hello kitty love dolphines thanthey wouldnt kill them, but god bless the japanese for the cars we all worship, there amazing art work and the style, but you cant logically compare cattle to dolphines. we raise cattle, by the millions, we dont go out into the wild and hurd them, and slit there throats infrotn of school children. If the Japanese raised them, or farmed them, like americans do with salmon and trout, I woudlnt care or even see this as fucked up. but its in the wild, and i think its very different than killing farm animals. but this little bitch fest of sympathy for an animal that we can not talk to wont do a damn thing, and who ever posted that shit, thanks for sharing and spreading the awarenes but thanks for showing me one of the fucked up things ever.

mrmephistopheles

Purely speculation on my part, but I seriously doubt fishermen can't tell the difference between dolphin and tuna. The meats are DEFINITELY different as well. The whole dolphin/tuna thing was that dolphin were being caught along with tuna and being killed unnecessarily (not out of malice but rather as a matter of course). Thus, bleeding heart hippies complained to tuna companies who introduced 'dolphin-safe' tuna.


Now on another note - All those Vegan and Vegetarian folks (nothing personally against them) who are militant about it (everything against them) are wacked out of their gourds. They insist that humans shouldn't eat meat because we're supposed to be vegetarian, and the vegans don't want to consume ANYTHING made from or by ANY animal.

I'd love to travel back in time 150 years and show these peoples' ancestors what they've become. I bet they'd be disgusted.
Being Vegan or Vegetarian is a matter of convenience. That is, food is now so abundant that we can choose to not eat meat, and we'll still get our nutrients. It is convenient for us to choose what we eat. Our ancestors didn't have that luxury. Find me a story of a Vegan sodbuster or Pilgrim. Go ahead, I'll wait. Fact is, you never will. Humans need to eat, and they'll eat what they have to to survive. Animals, plants, even dirt if that's all they've got. You think Anthony R. Prospector gave two shits about how unsavory the act of killing, gutting and dressing an animal was? I don't think he did.

We've become too sensitive to such things because we aren't exposed to it from an early age or for very long if we have been. If you grow up on a farm killing chickens for your meals, it's not a big deal to kill them for others' meals.
The idea of slaughtering a chicken (not massacre, although some people don't understand the difference) is unsavory to people who have never had to work for their food (in terms of growing or killing).

Personally, I've never hunted, never killed an animal for food, never grown a plant to eat. I've relied on others to do all this for me. I don't balk at the harsh truths that lie behind those neat packages on store shelves, though. I understand that every piece of chicken I've eaten at Popeyes has come from a squawking white bird that lived and died for my sustenance. I understand that every moist piece of tenderloin has come from some cow that also lived and died for my sustenance. In my lifetime, I've probably eaten about 200 chickens worth of chicken products (if not way more) and probably 50 cows' worth. You can bet your butt that I'll eat more too.
We're living in a great time to be alive. In our more advanced society, our greatest daily concerns end up being getting a good cell signal, or having to miss The O.C., or trying to avoid a speeding ticket. We don't have to worry about having food to eat or a place to call home (by and large).

We're spoiled and are taking shit for granted.

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illvialuver

oh an yeah dolphins is not spelled dolphines, but one last thing, if you laugh at this I seriously question if you were abused as a child.

mrmephistopheles

I feel this merits another post, so I'm not editing my last one.

The Japanese would be stupid to over-fish. Fish is a gigantic staple of their diets. Sidenote - do you REALLY think that the ocean will somehow run out of fish?

I don't recall comparing dolphins to cattle. I don't see a reason why I would, other than the fact that they're food. The issue about killing an animal in front of children is a personal one. Some kids are raised to slaughter chickens, and eventually larger animals. Ask anyone you know who grew up on a farm. If it's not outside the norm for your culture or upbringing, it's not an issue.

Also, it's not a matter of farming or catching. Dolphin are not a staple like beef or chicken, so there's no need for large-scale farming. There's nothing that need be inhumane about catching and killing an animal, at least moreso compared to farmed animals.

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Make sense, please.

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blackcoupe

dolphins are mammals.

steve shadows

LOL


LOL

LOL

-i think chickens are better than dolphins-

dolphins havent evolved, so lets eat them

sorry The Left wing supports Darwinism right?

so why do we have to interfere with it? and involve compassion?

Thats a western Christian empire tradition.

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I echo most of the sentiments expressed by Mr. Meph.

You gotta grill it before you kill it; simple fact of life.

Mr. Meph is absolutely right when he points out that the reason we've become so attached to animal causes is because so few of us have to work for our food. It's a condition that is rarely found outside the western world, which has humanized many animals.

On a side note, although many people overlook this fact, the importance of food has had a HUGE impact on the development of the world's societies and the world's history. The domestication of animals (both for work and consumption) as well as agriculture has created the world as we know it. It's a pretty interesting subject, but I digress.

I do disagree with the assertion that our food supply is inexhaustible. There are many places around the world where fishing yields have been tremendously degraded. This is exacerbated by the fact that not all fish are useable for human consumption. I have absolutely no problem fishing for any species as long as its done sustainably. If that means imposing restrictions of when and where commercial fishing can be conducted, so be it.

The fact is that humans are super predators in a natural system that's cruel and inhumane. Lest anyone forget, dolphins themselves are carnivores. And they're hunting techniques and even natural behavior (there are documented instances of Orcas using Seals as a sort of ball that they pass back and forth to each other using their tail flukes for the pure purpose of entertainment) are far from humane.

illvialuver

Mr. mephistophelis,
first off, sorry. I only used yoru name because you seemed like the person on here who was tryin to say somethign that made sense, and not just laughing or getting mad.
the comment about the japanese eating the last fish on earth, I didnt mean that they litterally are goign to over fish the oceans on there own, but I ment it as they are so god at fishing and have done it for so long, that if someone is gogin to catch the last fish, it would probably the japanese.

And yes I know you werent comparing cattle to dolphins .

but others are, and its kinda like comparing apples to oranges, there both fruit but there not the same thing.

and after watching the video, i realized its probably 10 years old.

and I did live on a farm with my aunt for half my life raiseing cattle and pig to butcher and eat. but when we butchered our own animals we didnt stab it to death or slit its throat, it was a bullet to the head. quick and easy.

And you right if a child is goign to become a fisherman they should see this at a young age to get used to it.

I have never seen this and Im not used to it.

illvialuver

so good not so god at catching fish, hahhaa.

jeeper_x

i was about to say.....lol

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