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d-oom · 10-13-2006, 12:01 PM

i dont know if something like this has been posted before...but

over the years i have seen many people pointlessly complain about USDM 240's. "the ka sucks, they should have come with an sr", "omgwtf only one tire spins!"

well, heres a list of reasons why IM glad that they came this way:

1. to start off, if they did come with SR's and VSLD's.. most of us wouldnt have one. they would be FUCKING EXPENSIVE
2. my insurance company considers 240's to be in the same category as ford escorts...cheap ass insurance
3. most of us wouldnt know shit about cars, because we wouldnt have one to break down all the time

honestly, who wants to tune a ford escort or civic?
4. because you wouldnt have a 240, you probably wouldnt drift. this means you would have never, ever had any fun your whole life! i guess you could drift an s10 or something lol

this is just my opinion, and i know most of you dont complain..just teh n00bs that dont want to put some sweat and blood into their car

feel free to add to my list!
oh ya.. ive been working on my 2 s13's for about 3 years now, my post count doesnt mean SHIT

*downshift_sideways* · 10-13-2006, 12:08 PM

Usdm 240's suck.
I just own them, cuz they are HERE.
and I dun wanna pay for shipping fawwkk noooo
I would kill for JDM

on the goodnote:'usdm'
-ka's are good motors.
-they are hella cheap cars

*FaLKoN240* · 10-13-2006, 12:25 PM

This is the dumbest thread I've ever seen. Dumber than sportmax wheel fitment threads. I hope it gets locked. This is some shit that belongs on 240sxforums.com, or Nico.

d-oom · 10-13-2006, 12:26 PM

yes, they are slow. the stock suspension kinda sucks.
but, there are 30k members just on this forum. and i know of 4 other forums dedicated to 240's with a lot of members. They obviously attracted somebodys attention

EDIT: the thread might be poorly constructed, but i see no reason why it should be locked. im just making a point that a stock 240 is an awesome car. if you think its so dumb, you shouldnt have wasted your time posting. ass

trsilvias13 · 10-13-2006, 12:33 PM

That is why you have a 240sx as a daily driver and a silvia as a race car. At least that what I do.

*downshift_sideways* · 10-13-2006, 12:41 PM

I'm going to suscribe to this thread, Then hotlink it to my desktop.

JDM 240's ftw!!

TipStylez · 10-13-2006, 12:48 PM

i like the KA, and JDM is for fags. =]

Were all fags here, cause we own atleast one JDM tytee part.

*!Zar!* · 10-13-2006, 07:13 PM

In reality 240's suck. All they can do is drift.

I know you would choose a ferrari if you could instead of some 240.

I'm happy to have usdm 240's.

Member count meants nothing. Most of them were only here once and never came back. Then some others are nubs who's s13 will never look decent.

Some others have come to realise that that car is ok for what it does. But a 240 won't get you chicks like a real luxory car will.

<3 ls400 vip for life.

I could care less that my car came with a ka or open diff.

Because if it did come with a sr I would've ended up swapping to a ka-t. So nissan usa saved me some money there.

*downshift_sideways* · 10-13-2006, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !Zar!

Because if it did come with a sr I would've ended up swapping to a ka-t. So nissan usa saved me some money there.

Your Lying!!!!!

SR FTW!

*Sil-Abc* · 10-14-2006, 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-oom

1. to start off, if they did come with SR's and VSLD's.. most of us wouldnt have one. they would be FUCKING EXPENSIVE
2. my insurance company considers 240's to be in the same category as ford escorts...cheap ass insurance
3. most of us wouldnt know shit about cars, because we wouldnt have one to break down all the time

honestly, who wants to tune a ford escort or civic?
4. because you wouldnt have a 240, you probably wouldnt drift. this means you would have never, ever had any fun your whole life! i guess you could drift an s10 or something lol

1) y would it be fucking expensive? i could understand it being a little bit more but fuckin expensive... no. its been what? over 10 years since theyve been out and if i recall, gas is expensive, turbos eat gas, ppl are cheap bastard so they want to save money... so yea. i doubt it would be "fucking expensive"
2) i would agree on this one
3) IM assuming u dont even have a SR or u dont actually track it or drive it. To date, when i was KA the only problem with it was the timing chain guides that everyone has. Other problems were the BMC, CMC, CSC, and thats it. NOW with the SR ive had, bad coil packs, misfire, bad timing, blow by, blown turbo, blown mani-to-turbo gasket SIX FUCKING TIMES, bad injector, running rich, bad idle the list goes on and on. TO ME the SR breaks down far more times than a KA.
4) uhh who said u HAVE to have a 240 in order to drift? O NOES!! LUKE IS DOING IT ALL WRONG CUZ HE DRIFTED A RX7!! if the 240 never even came out, ppl would drift with a corolla.

maybe the usdm is better or not but either way, both have their pro's and con's. honestly

we have a 240 and enjoy driving it. end discussion

usdm180sx · 10-14-2006, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sil-Abc

3) IM assuming u dont even have a SR or u dont actually track it or drive it. To date, when i was KA the only problem with it was the timing chain guides that everyone has. Other problems were the BMC, CMC, CSC, and thats it. NOW with the SR ive had, bad coil packs, misfire, bad timing, blow by, blown turbo, blown mani-to-turbo gasket SIX FUCKING TIMES, bad injector, running rich, bad idle the list goes on and on. TO ME the SR breaks down far more times than a KA.

Wow, who tuned your motor? Or is it tuned at all? Bad tuning or no tuning and bad timing can cause all of the things you listed except for the manifold to turbo gasket. Stock and worn motor mounts cause the manifold to turbo gasket to come loose because they allow the motor to flex too much.

Dorifto89 · 10-14-2006, 11:10 AM

^ That same shit happened to me because one of my motor mounts was fucked and it caused my turbo to shift positions. Needless to say I'm glad its fixed.

Sweet thread btw.

sidewayskeet · 10-14-2006, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !Zar!

In reality 240's suck. All they can do is drift

Hmmmmm thats why i have a good friend that dose extremly well at road racing his 240

And there is this guy with a TT SR that pulls low 10's in the quarter mile.

hmmmm they are good for other things as well as drifting, thats just the most popular event that they compete in.

good driver + proper setup = anything you want it to be.

ka-t = garbage
SR = not garbage

ka-t = more time than its worth its a higher compression motor ITS NA stock

SR turbo stock = lower compression. hmmm no brainer

Kouki_2.4 · 10-14-2006, 05:39 PM

I dont necessarily agree with #4 since there are other RWD cars that we could have purchased to drift. For example- mazda miata, the Americans (camaro, mustang, vette), and you cant forget about the 300zx and the Rx7. There would always be alternates to learning how to drift, and not owning one does not stop one from learning.

Drift Motion · 10-14-2006, 07:17 PM

s13 are old cars...and that usually means needing to fix alot of small stuff...

crashdrive · 10-14-2006, 08:40 PM

the only down fall of a USDM S13 back in its days was it never got popular in the race track due to its motor.drifters liked it cuz, its aftermarket support and cheeper than a supra,300zx,RX7 FD3S or S2000 just my $.02

DJPimpFlex · 10-14-2006, 08:54 PM

WTF I feel like everyones retarded lately. For 1 yes 240sx's S13/S14's kick ass, or we wouldnt be here talking about them, but why a thread about it.

Second, sidewayskeet, Fail. KA is not a bad motor at all (stock or modified). I have owned plenty stock to have enough fun and be HELLA reliable. I've driven 2 different KAT's (nemes and speedmonkeys), and they were fuckin awsome, hands down. I own a SR, and wouldnt ever put the ka back in for a race car, but the KA is an exelent option. Also there is a 9 second KAT S14 so yea.

In the end these cars are fun and money can make you go fast or sideways so spend it like its on fire...I do..geez. Ohh and Jon Wayne, Scott, Mel and Anthony FTW!

undesiredshoe · 10-14-2006, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sidewayskeet

Hmmmmm thats why i have a good friend that dose extremly well at road racing his 240

And there is this guy with a TT SR that pulls low 10's in the quarter mile.

hmmmm they are good for other things as well as drifting, thats just the most popular event that they compete in.

good driver + proper setup = anything you want it to be.

ka-t = garbage
SR = not garbage

ka-t = more time than its worth its a higher compression motor ITS NA stock

SR turbo stock = lower compression. hmmm no brainer

how is ka-t garbage?? If you provide better statements than "the compression of the pistons are higher", i then might consider it garbage, but until then, the ka has as much potential as the sr.

And no, the sr is not a drifting engine nor was it made specifically for drifting!

edit...theres a ka-t that broke into the 8's

*FRpilot* · 10-14-2006, 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by usdmsilvia

Wow, who tuned your motor? Or is it tuned at all? Bad tuning or no tuning and bad timing can cause all of the things you listed except for the manifold to turbo gasket. Stock and worn motor mounts cause the manifold to turbo gasket to come loose because they allow the motor to flex too much.

no one tuned his motor? what does tuning have to do with those regular maintenance problems except for misfiring which can be normal if you are running a test pipe. sr20s that are bought and dropped in are jdm junkyard motors so you have to expect these problems. on mine, the timing was messed with by the previous jdm owner and i had to set it back to stock but it still idles all weird.

usdm180sx · 10-14-2006, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRpilot

no one tuned his motor? what does tuning have to do with those regular maintenance problems except for misfiring which can be normal if you are running a test pipe. sr20s that are bought and dropped in are jdm junkyard motors so you have to expect these problems. on mine, the timing was messed with by the previous jdm owner and i had to set it back to stock but it still idles all weird.

I ALSO mentioned bad timing.

*A-Tech_Weapons* · 10-14-2006, 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRpilot

no one tuned his motor? what does tuning have to do with those regular maintenance problems except for misfiring which can be normal if you are running a test pipe. sr20s that are bought and dropped in are jdm junkyard motors so you have to expect these problems. on mine, the timing was messed with by the previous jdm owner and i had to set it back to stock but it still idles all weird.

Mine stutters in the morning when its cold, and its a bitch to start when its warm. There is a wierd noise coming from my valve cover when it idles... scared me because i thought it was knock, but after examining it closely I could tell it was coming from the valve cover.

It stutters every once and a while from 1800-2000rpm when I'm slowly cruising around parking lots looking for parking spots.

I have an HKS BOV thats non-adjustable, when I unplug the vacuum line (cap it) the engine runs a little bit better.

my throttle responce isn't as nice as other peoples SR's, kinda pisses me ofs :/

Overall, I like the engine, but I personally though my KA-T had way more balls; break loose 1st, 2nd and 1/4 of 3rd stock internals, 7psi /370cc injectors. I think the reason why it had guts was because it was fully spooled by 2900... lol

*downshift_sideways* · 10-15-2006, 12:28 AM

wow, haha. I thought this thread would be locked by now..
I love watching people argue bout stupid shit

P4rD0nM3 · 10-15-2006, 11:38 AM

USDM cars, JDM, and WDGAFDM cars or whatever domestic market they came from will always have advantages and disadvantages depending on the tuner.

d-oom, I'm happy for you, you like usdm 240s and that you think they rock or something.

However, the rest of Zilvia just...

DON'T GIVE A FUCK

I hope you have fun with your USDM 240sx.

**ThatGuy** · 10-15-2006, 11:45 AM

Stupid ass thread full of stupid ass arguments.

I don't want to see another SR vs. KA or USDM vs. JDM bullshit thread. Everyone has their own taste and preference. End of story.

10-13-2006, 12:01 PM	#1
d-oom Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: georgia Posts: 57 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Why USDM 240sx are AWSOME! i dont know if something like this has been posted before...but over the years i have seen many people pointlessly complain about USDM 240's. "the ka sucks, they should have come with an sr", "omgwtf only one tire spins!" well, heres a list of reasons why IM glad that they came this way: 1. to start off, if they did come with SR's and VSLD's.. most of us wouldnt have one. they would be FUCKING EXPENSIVE 2. my insurance company considers 240's to be in the same category as ford escorts...cheap ass insurance 3. most of us wouldnt know shit about cars, because we wouldnt have one to break down all the time honestly, who wants to tune a ford escort or civic? 4. because you wouldnt have a 240, you probably wouldnt drift. this means you would have never, ever had any fun your whole life! i guess you could drift an s10 or something lol this is just my opinion, and i know most of you dont complain..just teh n00bs that dont want to put some sweat and blood into their car feel free to add to my list! oh ya.. ive been working on my 2 s13's for about 3 years now, my post count doesnt mean SHIT

10-13-2006, 12:08 PM	#2
downshift_sideways No Limit Soldier. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hayward CA, San Gabriel CA Age: 26 Posts: 5,580 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: downshift_sideways Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Usdm 240's suck. I just own them, cuz they are HERE. and I dun wanna pay for shipping fawwkk noooo I would kill for JDM on the goodnote:'usdm' -ka's are good motors. -they are hella cheap cars __________________ allntrlundrgrnd: "you never really appreciate your parents fridge until you look into your own and its full of condiments only"

10-13-2006, 12:41 PM	#6
downshift_sideways No Limit Soldier. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hayward CA, San Gabriel CA Age: 26 Posts: 5,580 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: downshift_sideways Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'm going to suscribe to this thread, Then hotlink it to my desktop. JDM 240's ftw!! __________________ allntrlundrgrnd: "you never really appreciate your parents fridge until you look into your own and its full of condiments only"

10-13-2006, 07:13 PM	#8
!Zar! Yeast Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bakery Posts: 13,826 Trader Rating: (23) Feedback Score: 23 reviews	In reality 240's suck. All they can do is drift. I know you would choose a ferrari if you could instead of some 240. I'm happy to have usdm 240's. Member count meants nothing. Most of them were only here once and never came back. Then some others are nubs who's s13 will never look decent. Some others have come to realise that that car is ok for what it does. But a 240 won't get you chicks like a real luxory car will. <3 ls400 vip for life. I could care less that my car came with a ka or open diff. Because if it did come with a sr I would've ended up swapping to a ka-t. So nissan usa saved me some money there. __________________

10-14-2006, 05:39 PM	#14
Kouki_2.4 Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: SF, CA Age: 29 Posts: 109 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I dont necessarily agree with #4 since there are other RWD cars that we could have purchased to drift. For example- mazda miata, the Americans (camaro, mustang, vette), and you cant forget about the 300zx and the Rx7. There would always be alternates to learning how to drift, and not owning one does not stop one from learning. __________________

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10-13-2006, 12:25 PM	#3
FaLKoN240 Mr. Fixit Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: SF Peninsula Posts: 12,350 Trader Rating: (52) Feedback Score: 52 reviews	This is the dumbest thread I've ever seen. Dumber than sportmax wheel fitment threads. I hope it gets locked. This is some shit that belongs on 240sxforums.com, or Nico.

10-13-2006, 12:26 PM	#4
d-oom Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: georgia Posts: 57 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yes, they are slow. the stock suspension kinda sucks. but, there are 30k members just on this forum. and i know of 4 other forums dedicated to 240's with a lot of members. They obviously attracted somebodys attention EDIT: the thread might be poorly constructed, but i see no reason why it should be locked. im just making a point that a stock 240 is an awesome car. if you think its so dumb, you shouldnt have wasted your time posting. ass __________________ 1986 200sx 5-speed KABLAM! 1993 240sx se coupe 5-speed TOTALED (not by me :hammer: ) 1997 ford escort LX auto 1990 240sx se hatch 5-speed 1992 240sx base coupe 5-speed (parted out)

10-13-2006, 12:33 PM	#5
trsilvias13 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,987 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	That is why you have a 240sx as a daily driver and a silvia as a race car. At least that what I do.

10-13-2006, 12:48 PM	#7
TipStylez Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 917 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i like the KA, and JDM is for fags. =] Were all fags here, cause we own atleast one JDM tytee part.

10-14-2006, 11:10 AM	#12
Dorifto89 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Like an electron. Posts: 417 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^ That same shit happened to me because one of my motor mounts was fucked and it caused my turbo to shift positions. Needless to say I'm glad its fixed. Sweet thread btw.

10-14-2006, 07:17 PM	#15
Drift Motion Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: CA Posts: 275 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	s13 are old cars...and that usually means needing to fix alot of small stuff... __________________

10-14-2006, 08:40 PM	#16
crashdrive Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 30 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	the only down fall of a USDM S13 back in its days was it never got popular in the race track due to its motor.drifters liked it cuz, its aftermarket support and cheeper than a supra,300zx,RX7 FD3S or S2000 just my $.02 __________________ Signature exceeds 150kbs.

10-14-2006, 08:54 PM	#17
DJPimpFlex Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Emo central..NORCAL BABY! Age: 27 Posts: 4,343 Trader Rating: (24) Rides Gallery: DJPimpFlex Feedback Score: 24 reviews	WTF I feel like everyones retarded lately. For 1 yes 240sx's S13/S14's kick ass, or we wouldnt be here talking about them, but why a thread about it. Second, sidewayskeet, Fail. KA is not a bad motor at all (stock or modified). I have owned plenty stock to have enough fun and be HELLA reliable. I've driven 2 different KAT's (nemes and speedmonkeys), and they were fuckin awsome, hands down. I own a SR, and wouldnt ever put the ka back in for a race car, but the KA is an exelent option. Also there is a 9 second KAT S14 so yea. In the end these cars are fun and money can make you go fast or sideways so spend it like its on fire...I do..geez. Ohh and Jon Wayne, Scott, Mel and Anthony FTW! __________________

10-15-2006, 12:28 AM	#22
downshift_sideways No Limit Soldier. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hayward CA, San Gabriel CA Age: 26 Posts: 5,580 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: downshift_sideways Feedback Score: 0 reviews	wow, haha. I thought this thread would be locked by now.. I love watching people argue bout stupid shit __________________ allntrlundrgrnd: "you never really appreciate your parents fridge until you look into your own and its full of condiments only"

10-15-2006, 11:38 AM	#23
P4rD0nM3 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Not Applicable Posts: 1,183 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	USDM cars, JDM, and WDGAFDM cars or whatever domestic market they came from will always have advantages and disadvantages depending on the tuner. d-oom, I'm happy for you, you like usdm 240s and that you think they rock or something. However, the rest of Zilvia just... DON'T GIVE A FUCK I hope you have fun with your USDM 240sx.

10-15-2006, 11:45 AM	#24
ThatGuy Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: MCAS New River, NC Age: 33 Posts: 20,216 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: ThatGuy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Stupid ass thread full of stupid ass arguments. I don't want to see another SR vs. KA or USDM vs. JDM bullshit thread. Everyone has their own taste and preference. End of story. __________________ YES, I had a 240sx. NO, it didn't have an SR. NO, I didn't drift.

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