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Omarius Maximus · 05-22-2008, 05:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OptionZero

omg the AMERICAN version of top gear rejected someone? u mean the same show Jay leno didn't want any part of? SNAP! damn, i think i'll stop discussing this with you because i'm defeated. Shoot. I'm dropping out of school, crawling to the nissan dealership and pray that they'll let me wash cars for them.

i'm not a fan of nissan. i just happen to like the particular one that i have (usually). I'm not a brand guy. I'll diss a bad car by any brand, i'll praise a good car by and brand. You're calling me out for being a bad fan of something I've never claimed to be a fan of? Really?

You've proved my point exactly by saying enthusiasts knew about the GTR. Enthusiasts are, by definition, those more enthusiastic than "normal", hence they are not "everyone", or even "the majority". Yuri and exitspeed will tell you that the "sports car" buying category of people is actually...well...not that big, and of those, the number that actually really cares about performance is smaller.

That only 1500 were brought over supports nothing. Why not 1501? why not 1502, or 2000, or 2500? Because Nissan's own marketing and resource suits determined that thats how many they could sell for their target price. If anything, it proves the limited extent to which Nissan felt its GTR badge could carry it.

If Nissan thought they could sell 5000 GTRs here...wouldn't they? I've never known them to not want to make money.

Really, I have nothing against Nissan or the GTR, or anything against you personally...merely what I perceive to be a Nissan bias.

Sure, I might have been a bit sarcastic with my response, but you'll notice I never told you to sell your car or insulted you directly. I am just pointing out what I see in your posts. You, on the other hand, reacted to my post on the GTR by attacking me personally.

Telling, isn't it?

You're a Nissan fan. We get it. Move along.

I agree 100 percent. Some of you guys need to expand your horizons. Nissan is not the end all, be all.

*exitspeed* · 05-22-2008, 09:30 AM

Damn you guys don't say shit all day until I go home for the night! I missed the whole convo.

I agree with dc2_lsvtec, that I don't think they should be aiming so high. I think the $125k range is much more realistic. For that price it's OK that it out performs the GTR (if it even does), and is dripping with more luxury amenities. Add in mark-up during the first couple years and they'll be going for say $150k-$175k.

I wonder if this will nudge Nissan/Infiniti into making an Infiniti flagship supercar based on the GTR. The last comment I read from Ghosn the new Q will be THE flagship of the brand, and a GTR based Infiniti was not planned. At least so he says. I think it'll depend on the immediate success of the LFA. It would take hardly anything for Nissan to our on the luxury do-dads, charge $125k. I think that would be a great way to again undercut Toyota/Lexus.

stiizy · 05-22-2008, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by dc2_lsvtec

i wish they wouldnt aim so high... just aim around the GTR price and performance and everyone would be much happier.

EDIT: the roadster on the lexus site looks good!

http://www.lexus.com/fcv/lf_a_roadster.html

Like i said for before i rather have an R8 than this ugly shit and save money!!

*OptionZero* · 05-22-2008, 12:43 PM

i think the R8 has a pretty flawed exterior design, the cab is swept too far foward; eiither the nose needs to be longer or the rear hacked shorter.

The LFA looks like squared off, modern Supra shape, which is more or less what they were shooting for, I suppose. Its not as bold as the GTR, more conservative FR design.

eastcoastS14 · 05-22-2008, 12:51 PM

it looks like a tiburon for some reason

*ronmcdon* · 05-22-2008, 12:52 PM

that's very expensive. it'll prob be a good as a halo car and nothing else.

Matej · 05-22-2008, 02:10 PM

It won't sell until it has three TV's and plenty of cup holders, only celebrities buy supercars.

*exitspeed* · 05-27-2008, 04:56 PM

So it's confirmed the LFA will be a V10.

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/27/s...ails-revealed/

And it crashed at the first race at the Ring over the weekend. Also had an oil leak. Best time was 9:19.757 in 106 laps.

Sorry Toyota but GTR>...

*OptionZero* · 05-27-2008, 05:34 PM

I wonder if it'll be totally misguided like the SC430, an ugly boat of a thing lacking any sporting qualities

Its $200k, if it's running 9 minute lap times at the 'ring, they have work to do

*exitspeed* · 08-28-2008, 12:34 PM

Well guys...some bad news if you were looking forward to this car.

DEAD!

stiizy · 08-28-2008, 12:36 PM

^^ Good write up oh well we dont need it...

sub9lulu · 08-28-2008, 12:52 PM

not like i have 225k spare change for a toyboata anytime soon

Taniguchi_Is_#1 · 08-28-2008, 01:17 PM

they missed economic and environmental window by 2 years. oh well, doesn't matter. you'd have people up in arms about paying 225K for a toyota, God forbid.

*drift freaq* · 08-28-2008, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OptionZero

it was just too easy to tweak him

short of a poll that was conducted of the country on who thought the gtr would be good, we're just dicking around about nothing

You didn't tweak me, I enjoy debate, LOL. I just pointed out your bias against most things Nissan. You just assume shit about me without even being bright enough to know the half of it. Its ok I forgive you. LOL In the end the LFA has been cancelled. I say thats good it was way overpriced. Oh and if you think I don't have criticism for Nissan well then your not as smart as the credit I was giving you for. Have a nice life option and keep on hating.

Oh and if you really think I am only a fan of Nissan? You really need to stop commenting to me, because I like a lot of cars, but guess what? this is a Nissan forum! Wow and you thought that most people on here would not be praising or liking Nissans? LOL

PhAtXSuMo · 08-28-2008, 01:37 PM

this is pretty neat i remember seeing the LFA as a concept back when i was in 8th grade which was at least 4 -5 years ago

s13dan · 08-28-2008, 02:02 PM

one more car i can only dream about

*exitspeed* · 08-28-2008, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhAtXSuMo

this is pretty neat i remember seeing the LFA as a concept back when i was in 8th grade which was at least 4 -5 years ago

Wow, this post just bows my away...and makes me feel old.

*axiomatik* · 08-28-2008, 03:44 PM

not surprising. Toyota is utterly incapable of building an interesting vehicle.

*exitspeed* · 08-28-2008, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by axiomatik

not surprising. Toyota is utterly incapable of building an interesting vehicle.

We're not the only ones who think this either:

Former Nissan racer, NSX development driver and Nurburgring legend Motoharu "Gan-san" Kurosawa reckons, "Toyota are good at making money, but they're no good at making sports cars."

ESmorz · 08-28-2008, 03:47 PM

The GT-R is like the X-Box 360 of Japanese supercars. Out early with great performance. But will it be able to maintain it's lead? jaja

blueshark123 · 08-28-2008, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exitspeed

Well guys...some bad news if you were looking forward to this car.

DEAD!

that car on the top of the head of that page looks like yuri's car is it ???

*exitspeed* · 08-28-2008, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueshark123

that car on the top of the head of that page looks like yuri's car is it ???

It is his car.

WanganRunner · 08-28-2008, 04:28 PM

They definitely pulled this because it can't compete with the GT-R.

I imagine that Honda IS capable of releasing an NSX that will beat the GT-R, although it's going to probably cost double what the GT-R does.

They also, quite obviously had to revise their ideas once the GT-R's Ring times were made public, I bet that came as an unpleasant shock to them.

*exitspeed* · 10-20-2009, 04:16 PM

This thing has been on again off again more times then a $2 prostitute, but here it is in all of it's production glory.

VIDEO: Lexus LF-A breaks cover before Tokyo unveiling — Autoblog

The LCD Gauge cluster is sick. Other then that the styling is too over the top for me. I do see some Supra hidden in there here and there.

*SimpleS14* · 10-20-2009, 04:41 PM

At first I was like "whoever bump this thread better have good info" lol

Sounds nice and that LCD is gro$$ (meaning its nice lol)

The car doesn't look too bad IMO

edit: I'll take mine in Satin black please

kingkilburn · 10-20-2009, 04:56 PM

I hope it's fast because it is ugly as hell.

*ronmcdon* · 10-20-2009, 06:00 PM

I agree it's a bit too flashy.
What I find most unsettling is the aftermarket looking front bumper.
The HUGE gap between the hood and the front bumper is also annoying.
The air vent close to the B-pillar is just offensive.
Overall, the front almost resembles a Celica with a poor fitting body-kit.

The rear looks cool though.
I love the exhaust pipes and tailights.
rear wing seems well integrated.
The ass is also muscular & aggressive (can see the resemblance to the Supra here).
Wheels are nice.

Overall the car is kinda generic looking.
It's not breaking any new aesthetic grounds, and nor is it particularly good looking.
It's sporty, but not classy.

This isn't a bad looking car,
BUT it's going to have trouble competing (in the US at least) if the price isn't right.
At GTR price levels, and limited numbers, it will probably do well under $100k.
Anything above that, the number of auto enthusiasts who can afford something like this (and opt out of the usual alternatives, like Porsche, Vette, etc), is going to be slim.

Good effort nonetheless, and I hope it'll be promising.
Kinda wish Toyota would focus more on a fun car within the $20k-$40k range.
Maybe that's why they purchased a larger stake in Subaru, idk.

*drift freaq* · 10-20-2009, 06:14 PM

Wow its got late model Celica written all over it. LOL am I the only that noticed those design characteristics? It will probably win some followers but to me its seems like it takes from other cars already out. I.E. hints of a GTR front combined with a Celica front. Rear completely has late model Celica shape. In fact I see more cues to the last Celica rather than the Supra itself.

Decent effort and sleek but unless its under 100k, who is going to bother beyond straight hard core Toyota heads? Who I actually know of who would want it because its a Toyota.

*axiomatik* · 10-20-2009, 06:43 PM

ahhh, bout time toyota grew some balls. styling's not perfect, but at least it doesn't use the same fugly styling cues they slather onto everything else they make. cluster is sick.

kingkilburn · 10-20-2009, 07:59 PM

It looks like to much of a hodgepodge to me.

For instanse the R8 rear vents.

And I know I've seen those vents some where.

05-22-2008, 12:43 PM	#64
OptionZero Premium Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: SF, CA Age: 26 Posts: 6,068 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: OptionZero	i think the R8 has a pretty flawed exterior design, the cab is swept too far foward; eiither the nose needs to be longer or the rear hacked shorter. The LFA looks like squared off, modern Supra shape, which is more or less what they were shooting for, I suppose. Its not as bold as the GTR, more conservative FR design. __________________

05-27-2008, 05:34 PM	#69
OptionZero Premium Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: SF, CA Age: 26 Posts: 6,068 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: OptionZero	I wonder if it'll be totally misguided like the SC430, an ugly boat of a thing lacking any sporting qualities Its $200k, if it's running 9 minute lap times at the 'ring, they have work to do __________________

08-28-2008, 12:36 PM	#71
stiizy Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NYC-JC Age: 27 Posts: 6,079 Trader Rating: (0)	^^ Good write up oh well we dont need it... __________________ http://resources.cipmotorsports.com/sig/stiizy.png http://khemiztri-inc.blogspot.com/

08-28-2008, 01:37 PM	#75
PhAtXSuMo Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: SoCal//Anaheim Hills Age: 19 Posts: 969 Trader Rating: (5) Rides Gallery: PhAtXSuMo	this is pretty neat i remember seeing the LFA as a concept back when i was in 8th grade which was at least 4 -5 years ago __________________ 1993 Honda Accord EX - Sold 1991 Nissan 240SX LE - Sold 2000 Honda S2000 SuMo Review http://phatxsumo.mybrute.com Pupil Me

08-28-2008, 02:02 PM	#76
s13dan Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Springfield, Mo Posts: 1,156 Trader Rating: (2)	one more car i can only dream about __________________ 89 FB #933-hot rod///91 coupe #130,603-dd

05-22-2008, 12:51 PM	#65
eastcoastS14 Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: the land of snow potholes and no tracks Posts: 3,994 Trader Rating: (1)	it looks like a tiburon for some reason

05-22-2008, 12:52 PM	#66
ronmcdon misanthrope Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beverly hills Age: 74 Posts: 2,257 Trader Rating: (3)	that's very expensive. it'll prob be a good as a halo car and nothing else.

05-22-2008, 02:10 PM	#67
Matej Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kansas City Age: 21 Posts: 5,303 Trader Rating: (5)	It won't sell until it has three TV's and plenty of cup holders, only celebrities buy supercars.

08-28-2008, 12:52 PM	#72
sub9lulu Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 327 Trader Rating: (0)	not like i have 225k spare change for a toyboata anytime soon

08-28-2008, 01:17 PM	#73
Taniguchi_Is_#1 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Kingdom of Laos, with my boy GVP Age: 22 Posts: 2,264 Trader Rating: (1)	they missed economic and environmental window by 2 years. oh well, doesn't matter. you'd have people up in arms about paying 225K for a toyota, God forbid.

08-28-2008, 03:44 PM	#78
axiomatik Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: ATL Posts: 3,503 Trader Rating: (0)	not surprising. Toyota is utterly incapable of building an interesting vehicle. __________________

08-28-2008, 03:47 PM	#80
ESmorz Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Peace Bruddah Mon Posts: 6,047 Trader Rating: (0)	The GT-R is like the X-Box 360 of Japanese supercars. Out early with great performance. But will it be able to maintain it's lead? jaja __________________ violentrunning.squidd.org/news

08-28-2008, 04:28 PM	#83
WanganRunner Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: DC Metro Area Age: 28 Posts: 713 Trader Rating: (0)	They definitely pulled this because it can't compete with the GT-R. I imagine that Honda IS capable of releasing an NSX that will beat the GT-R, although it's going to probably cost double what the GT-R does. They also, quite obviously had to revise their ideas once the GT-R's Ring times were made public, I bet that came as an unpleasant shock to them.

10-20-2009, 04:41 PM	#85
SimpleS14 Keeping it simple... Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Fairfax, VA Age: 26 Posts: 7,839 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: SimpleS14	At first I was like "whoever bump this thread better have good info" lol Sounds nice and that LCD is gro$$ (meaning its nice lol) The car doesn't look too bad IMO edit: I'll take mine in Satin black please __________________ *Goals are dreams with a deadline.* MA240SX L.H.O.O.Q.

10-20-2009, 06:00 PM	#87
ronmcdon misanthrope Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beverly hills Age: 74 Posts: 2,257 Trader Rating: (3)	I agree it's a bit too flashy. What I find most unsettling is the aftermarket looking front bumper. The HUGE gap between the hood and the front bumper is also annoying. The air vent close to the B-pillar is just offensive. Overall, the front almost resembles a Celica with a poor fitting body-kit. The rear looks cool though. I love the exhaust pipes and tailights. rear wing seems well integrated. The ass is also muscular & aggressive (can see the resemblance to the Supra here). Wheels are nice. Overall the car is kinda generic looking. It's not breaking any new aesthetic grounds, and nor is it particularly good looking. It's sporty, but not classy. This isn't a bad looking car, BUT it's going to have trouble competing (in the US at least) if the price isn't right. At GTR price levels, and limited numbers, it will probably do well under $100k. Anything above that, the number of auto enthusiasts who can afford something like this (and opt out of the usual alternatives, like Porsche, Vette, etc), is going to be slim. Good effort nonetheless, and I hope it'll be promising. Kinda wish Toyota would focus more on a fun car within the $20k-$40k range. Maybe that's why they purchased a larger stake in Subaru, idk.

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10-20-2009, 06:14 PM	#88
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10-20-2009, 06:43 PM	#89
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