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**ZilviaBot** · 06-19-2009, 12:50 PM

06-19-2009 11:58 AM

Filed under: Car Buying, Government/Legal

After narrowly surviving an attempt by Sen. Judd Gregg, R-N.H. to strip it from a war-spending bill, the Cash for Clunkers program passed the Senate yesterday evening. Well, the $106 billion war-spending bill passed the Senate on a 91-5 vote, but the $1 billion scrapping program earlier survived Sen. Gregg's attempt to have it removed and thus passed, as well. Now the bill makes its way to President Obama, who is expected to sign the bill into law, after which the U.S. Transportation Department reportedly has one month to figure out how the Cash for Clunkers program will be run. Since Congress reduced funding for the program from $4 billion to just $1 billion, it's expected that the money will run out long before the program is scheduled to end on November 1.

The Cash for Clunkers program is intended to aid automakers and their dealers, including imports, by offering vouchers worth between $3,500 and $4,500 to car buyers willing to trade in their old vehicles for new, more fuel efficient ones. The program's eligibility rules, however, are stiff. Trade-in vehicles have to be in drivable condition, insured by the same owner for the last year, manufactured in 1984 or later and have a combined EPA fuel economy rating of 18 mpg or less.

The new car being purchased must also achieve at least 22 mpg combined in order to receive the $3,500 voucher and be 10 mpg better than your trade-in to earn the $4,500 voucher. For light trucks and SUVs, the new vehicle must get 2 mpg better than the old one for $3,500 and 5 mpg better for $4,500. Reported estimates say around 250,000 car shoppers will be able to take advantage of the program, so don't sell your clunker on Craigslist if you want to be one of them.

[Source: The Detroit Free Press | Photo by Kevin Burkett | CC2.0]Cash for Clunkers passes Congress, awaits President's signature originally appeared on Autoblog on Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:58:00 EST. Please see our terms for use of feeds.

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91SuperS13 · 07-07-2009, 12:08 AM

soo... is it the voucher plus trade-in value? cuz if it is, thats pretty cool.

*bardabe* · 07-12-2009, 01:34 PM

lol I'd so do that, just re fix my Z and go get a Z33. lol. i can say my shit gets about 12mpg. after all it's tuned and "fixed up"

Mkiisupra1982 · 07-12-2009, 09:10 PM

Too bad what you "say" your car gets has nothing to do with the EPA fuel economy rating it was given when new.

aziankingz · 07-13-2009, 01:52 PM

its mpg when it was new out of factory, which most our cars received 18mpg+ and s13s would only get a 2k voucher..which is not worth it..

*Flicktitty* · 07-13-2009, 02:00 PM

i'm gonna be trading in my 92 Explorer and getting a cube soon!

Bigsyke · 07-13-2009, 06:20 PM

so hypathetically we could trade in a 240sx for a z33 and get $3,500 towards it?

I would assume most dealerships would thus rape us in trade in value.

*Flicktitty* · 07-13-2009, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigsyke

so hypathetically we could trade in a 240sx for a z33 and get $3,500 towards it?

I would assume most dealerships would thus rape us in trade in value.

Nope, you can only get a BRAND NEW CAR, maybe if you can find a 08 350Z still on a lot.

*fromxtor* · 07-13-2009, 08:06 PM

^^No read it again

Quote:

manufactured in 1984 or later

blueshark123 · 07-14-2009, 09:37 AM

when is this bill inaffect i would trade my suburban in

EchoOfSilence · 07-14-2009, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flicktitty

i'm gonna be trading in my 92 Explorer and getting a cube soon!

EWWW

cbr900son · 07-14-2009, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 91SuperS13

soo... is it the voucher plus trade-in value? cuz if it is, thats pretty cool.

I wonder if it works like that?

BustedS13 · 07-15-2009, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 91SuperS13

soo... is it the voucher plus trade-in value? cuz if it is, thats pretty cool.

no, it's not. because now I AM PAYING towards peoples' new cars, when I myself cannot afford a new car.
this, from a liberal. WHY ARE WE SPENDING SO MUCH GODDAMN MONEY?

energ · 07-16-2009, 12:16 AM

you dont get gov't money plus trade in value
its either or
you either get the 3500 or 4500 from the gov't or the trade in value

not gov't money plus trade in value.

the "clunker" traded in must be crushed/destroyed and documented for you to receive the money

*irax* · 07-16-2009, 12:52 AM

its fucking bullshit... most early 80's cars are esasier and cheaper to fix... we should just get rid of all the 90-00's cars fucking 00 ford explorer and it costs 2500 god damn dollers to do a fucking headgasket. the car isn't even worth 3000

simplistek · 07-16-2009, 08:45 PM

hmm... i think it's about time to trade in that lil old 86 Mazda B2000 of ours.

*irax* · 07-17-2009, 04:46 AM

84 and older

BustedS13 · 07-17-2009, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by irax

84 and older

84 or newer, actually
...aaaand the only car i have that would qualify would be my Galaxie, and that's not happening. fuck this thing

singlecamslam · 07-17-2009, 11:16 AM

This is retarded idea. Probably put a lot of dealerships in trouble. Yea they'll give you 3500 towards a car, but probably cant pay the rest so Obama is going to get another 40000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 000000000 dollar bailout. Stupid.

HyperTek · 07-18-2009, 11:28 AM

u mean its gonna fuck people over... soo many people will take advantage of this without any means to continue payment on a new car

BustedS13 · 07-18-2009, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HyperTek

u mean its gonna fuck people over... soo many people will take advantage of this without any means to continue payment on a new car

exactly. this is going to cost us and then make broke people even more fucked. what a great idea.

handinpants · 07-20-2009, 03:36 AM

I'm still annoyed that our forefathers built our nation on capitalistic views, and when some big companies made bad investments, the stronger wiser companies are supposed to take out the weaker companies by ways of survival of the fittest.

Meanwhile some jackass gets a great idea to bail out those weaker companies, wtf.
I still have massive creditcard bills for my poor decisions no body's bailing me out, I am responsible to pay back the principal plus interest.

Now we have a Buy your clunker program... For a nation who's in a recession, who claims to have no money for the elderly, no money for educational spending, we sure have a lot of money to fund stupid programs like this one, and bank bailouts.
These moron's over in DC, obama being one of them, need to pull their heads out of their asses,
Forget about the auto makers who made too many cars to sell, who can't sell and don't have a backup investment plan,
Invest into little billys education, and grandpa's diapers.

*NismOkatFreaK* · 07-22-2009, 04:01 AM

^^^ Hell yes this man said it!!!

Life · 07-23-2009, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by handinpants

I'm still annoyed that our forefathers built our nation on capitalistic views, and when some big companies made bad investments, the stronger wiser companies are supposed to take out the weaker companies by ways of survival of the fittest.

Meanwhile some jackass gets a great idea to bail out those weaker companies, wtf.
I still have massive creditcard bills for my poor decisions no body's bailing me out, I am responsible to pay back the principal plus interest.

Now we have a Buy your clunker program... For a nation who's in a recession, who claims to have no money for the elderly, no money for educational spending, we sure have a lot of money to fund stupid programs like this one, and bank bailouts.
These moron's over in DC, obama being one of them, need to pull their heads out of their asses,
Forget about the auto makers who made too many cars to sell, who can't sell and don't have a backup investment plan,
Invest into little billys education, and grandpa's diapers.

Exactly. Problem with capitalism is that a purely capitalist system would be an open international trade market. That doesn't necessarily mean everyone needs to use the same system or government but until everyone is on equal footing someone will have a (perhaps unfair) advantage over other. That being said, we're buying out US companies with government money but outsourcing military parts to China. Something is wrong here?

bnr32_coupe · 07-25-2009, 06:32 PM

I have a geo metro which is relatively fuel efficient. Can i get a $2000 voucher for it?

Chad4061 · 07-25-2009, 08:23 PM

my 95 v6 4runner would def. qualify...too bad it has to be traded in on for a brand new car!

06-19-2009, 12:50 PM	#1
ZilviaBot Zilvia.net Bot Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 174 Trader Rating: (0)	Cash for Clunkers passes Congress, awaits President's signature 06-19-2009 11:58 AM Filed under: Car Buying, Government/Legal After narrowly surviving an attempt by Sen. Judd Gregg, R-N.H. to strip it from a war-spending bill, the Cash for Clunkers program passed the Senate yesterday evening. Well, the $106 billion war-spending bill passed the Senate on a 91-5 vote, but the $1 billion scrapping program earlier survived Sen. Gregg's attempt to have it removed and thus passed, as well. Now the bill makes its way to President Obama, who is expected to sign the bill into law, after which the U.S. Transportation Department reportedly has one month to figure out how the Cash for Clunkers program will be run. Since Congress reduced funding for the program from $4 billion to just $1 billion, it's expected that the money will run out long before the program is scheduled to end on November 1. The Cash for Clunkers program is intended to aid automakers and their dealers, including imports, by offering vouchers worth between $3,500 and $4,500 to car buyers willing to trade in their old vehicles for new, more fuel efficient ones. The program's eligibility rules, however, are stiff. Trade-in vehicles have to be in drivable condition, insured by the same owner for the last year, manufactured in 1984 or later and have a combined EPA fuel economy rating of 18 mpg or less. The new car being purchased must also achieve at least 22 mpg combined in order to receive the $3,500 voucher and be 10 mpg better than your trade-in to earn the $4,500 voucher. For light trucks and SUVs, the new vehicle must get 2 mpg better than the old one for $3,500 and 5 mpg better for $4,500. Reported estimates say around 250,000 car shoppers will be able to take advantage of the program, so don't sell your clunker on Craigslist if you want to be one of them. [Source: The Detroit Free Press \| Photo by Kevin Burkett \| CC2.0]Cash for Clunkers passes Congress, awaits President's signature originally appeared on Autoblog on Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:58:00 EST. Please see our terms for use of feeds. ReadÂ\|ÂPermalinkÂ\|ÂEmail thisÂ\|ÂComments More...

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91SuperS13 Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Rockville, Maryland Posts: 75 Trader Rating: (0)	soo... is it the voucher plus trade-in value? cuz if it is, thats pretty cool. __________________ "There's a thin line between Race and Rice!"

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bardabe Performance Development Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: SoCali 951 Age: 20 Posts: 3,176 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: bardabe	lol I'd so do that, just re fix my Z and go get a Z33. lol. i can say my shit gets about 12mpg. after all it's tuned and "fixed up" __________________ BARDABE PERFORMANCE DEVELOPMENT Custom Fabrication, Wiring Services, and Parts Development Welded Diferentials, Lifetime Warranty no questions asked Review Thread

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07-13-2009, 02:00 PM	#6
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Bigsyke Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NA Age: 25 Posts: 1,207 Trader Rating: (0)	so hypathetically we could trade in a 240sx for a z33 and get $3,500 towards it? I would assume most dealerships would thus rape us in trade in value.

07-14-2009, 09:37 AM	#10
blueshark123 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Jersey Posts: 1,656 Trader Rating: (8)	when is this bill inaffect i would trade my suburban in __________________ Fuck thieves i will fuckin shoot you if u fuk with me ever again.

07-16-2009, 12:16 AM	#14
energ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Chicago burbs Age: 21 Posts: 23 Trader Rating: (0)	you dont get gov't money plus trade in value its either or you either get the 3500 or 4500 from the gov't or the trade in value not gov't money plus trade in value. the "clunker" traded in must be crushed/destroyed and documented for you to receive the money

07-16-2009, 08:45 PM	#16
simplistek Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Diego Posts: 277 Trader Rating: (3)	hmm... i think it's about time to trade in that lil old 86 Mazda B2000 of ours. __________________ v e r t e x - u s a . c o m

07-17-2009, 11:16 AM	#19
singlecamslam Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Norcal Posts: 1,092 Trader Rating: (5)	This is retarded idea. Probably put a lot of dealerships in trouble. Yea they'll give you 3500 towards a car, but probably cant pay the rest so Obama is going to get another 40000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 000000000 dollar bailout. Stupid. __________________ WTB s13 side skirts.

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HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 10,626 Trader Rating: (0)	u mean its gonna fuck people over... soo many people will take advantage of this without any means to continue payment on a new car __________________ relax its just cars

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handinpants BANNED Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: los Angeles Age: 27 Posts: 1,563 Trader Rating: (26) Rides Gallery: handinpants	I'm still annoyed that our forefathers built our nation on capitalistic views, and when some big companies made bad investments, the stronger wiser companies are supposed to take out the weaker companies by ways of survival of the fittest. Meanwhile some jackass gets a great idea to bail out those weaker companies, wtf. I still have massive creditcard bills for my poor decisions no body's bailing me out, I am responsible to pay back the principal plus interest. Now we have a Buy your clunker program... For a nation who's in a recession, who claims to have no money for the elderly, no money for educational spending, we sure have a lot of money to fund stupid programs like this one, and bank bailouts. These moron's over in DC, obama being one of them, need to pull their heads out of their asses, Forget about the auto makers who made too many cars to sell, who can't sell and don't have a backup investment plan, Invest into little billys education, and grandpa's diapers.

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NismOkatFreaK Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: O.C. Age: 23 Posts: 39 Trader Rating: (0)	^^^ Hell yes this man said it!!!

07-25-2009, 06:32 PM	#25
bnr32_coupe Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Vancouver BC Posts: 10 Trader Rating: (0)	I have a geo metro which is relatively fuel efficient. Can i get a $2000 voucher for it?

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Chad4061 Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Pleasant View,Tn Age: 21 Posts: 157 Trader Rating: (0)	my 95 v6 4runner would def. qualify...too bad it has to be traded in on for a brand new car!

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