Police raid California car enthusiast gathering to generate revenue

**ZilviaBot** · 04-04-2008, 02:00 PM

It isn't uncommon for automotive enthusiast groups to organize gatherings in large commercial parking lots. Quite often the local businesses even support the groups due to increased sales generated by the crowds. Such is apparently not the case in Riverside, California. The city believes large automotive-focused get togethers promote street racing and that must also be the purpose of any vehicle equipped with performance modifications. To quell the situation, last Friday night around 11PM, police surprised 150 vehicles and their owners during a meet at Canyon Crossing shopping center. Fifty police cruisers from Riverside County, Irwindale, Ontario and a few other regions were paid overtime to block off parking lot exits and issue citations. Tickets were written for illegal modifications, paperwork violations, window tint and having no front license plate. Twenty vehicles were even impounded due to suspected stolen parts.

The funds for the crackdown, and others like it, get drained from the California state gas tax account. Typically the gas tax goes towards transportation maintenance and improvements, like better roads and public transport. Rather than put all the money into aiding traffic flow, California's math calculations have determined that more revenue can be generated by handing out fix-it tickets with increased frequency. Of course, that is as long as the violation fares are more than law enforcement overtime expenses. Even still, most likely a few folks will fight their citations and thus drain more funds from the state government through the legislative process. Thanks for the tip everyone!
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*azndoc* · 04-04-2008, 02:06 PM

$eriou$ly you gotta $pend money to get money.

That'$ how they $ee it I gue$$.

Xmax · 04-04-2008, 02:23 PM

Giving tickets is a business operation, even though the police is here to serve and protect, they are business professionals to generate revenue for the city and state. Nothing new. But in a way that is a good thing, that they did this, because they cracked down on people that have stolen parts on their cars. Which is a few less thieves on the street.

*kouki_s14* · 04-04-2008, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Xmax

Giving tickets is a business operation, even though the police is here to serve and protect, they are business professionals to generate revenue for the city and state. Nothing new. But in a way that is a good thing, that they did this, because they cracked down on people that have stolen parts on their cars. Which is a few less thieves on the street.

I dont think anyone got arrested and even if they did they would be right back on the streets in no time.

and now since their car was taken away they need to steal another one.

*LongGrain* · 04-04-2008, 02:28 PM

just read about this on another forum.

another reason i dont live in cali.

adrians_s13 · 04-04-2008, 02:31 PM

why bother the import car enthusiasts... I'd say like 70% of them are
1) young 2) broke

I'd like to see police raid like a cars and coffee meet in Irvine, haha... well, I wouldnt really... but man, that just sucks balls. Cars and Coffee meets are almost the same thing... a bunch of dude standing around in a parking lot showing off their cars and talking gearhead talk...

*ROUGE180* · 04-04-2008, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by adrians_s13

Cars and Coffee meets are almost the same thing... a bunch of dude standing around in a parking lot showing off their cars and talking gearhead talk...

Pretty much my weekends for the past year lol. The cops don't usually mess with us because we're not doing burnouts or doing tyte driftz yo!!

Sometimes a UC drives though and talks to us. Hey, Starbucks is happy because of us that's for sure.

1 time I did get a ticket for "trespassing" because I was sitting in a MacDonald's parking lot with some other car heads long after it closed. I wasn't even driving and I got a ticket. Had to go to court. Such a waste of time.

*jskateborders* · 04-04-2008, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Xmax

Giving tickets is a business operation, even though the police is here to serve and protect, they are business professionals to generate revenue for the city and state. Nothing new. But in a way that is a good thing, that they did this, because they cracked down on people that have stolen parts on their cars. Which is a few less thieves on the street.

Not true. "Suspected stolen parts" can be if your vins dont match on your dash, honda guys might not have the vins on their trannys, that "questionably stolen" anything without paperwork to prove its legal can be considered stolen. Do you have paperwork on your motorswap? stolen
cops can , and unfortunately sometimes will, bend things around to serve their intrests

Taniguchi_Is_#1 · 04-04-2008, 03:32 PM

wait. if performance mods MUST be for street racing, how is it that i see dudes in camaros, mustangs, and other cars of that sort (read: domestic) cruising around with 1000 dB exhaust and NOS in the back window without any sort of second look from the man? where i grew up, if there was a civic with a muffler next to an F-body at a light, and the F-body's revs climbed as it accelerated through the light, the civic would get a ticket and the F-body would get a high five. fuck that. tomorrow, i'm selling the G20, and i'm gonna buy a trans am. shit is wack.

godzillarb · 04-04-2008, 03:35 PM

The cop has his hand on his gun... wtf?

*besTint* · 04-04-2008, 03:49 PM

make more tracks so people dont street race.

*let5l1de* · 04-04-2008, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by godzillarb

The cop has his hand on his gun... wtf?

they caught him ridin dirty... btw is that a fawking hummer in the background? omfg... i know where that fix-it-ticket $$ is going...

s14_legend · 04-05-2008, 12:39 AM

sucks that this is how our government makes money...tisk tisk

urmyhero4now · 04-05-2008, 01:10 AM

thats a really old shot from an article in superstreet years ago...and thats the o so famous "big bird" skyline....which was also in the f&f...

wylin · 04-05-2008, 01:30 AM

i think they should stick to ticketing speeders and other forms of driver education through tickets. Wasting money on modded cars is kind of stupid IMHO.

If they really wanted to stop street racing they'd, go browse forums for places that people drift, drag, and touge. That would be a better idea and more in line with protecting the public versus attacking a large non-mobile car meet.

*handinpants* · 04-05-2008, 01:36 AM

Wow all this being done in a shopping center parking lot which is most likely private property, so the property owner can be held liable for this. But I would call Greg doll and double check this.

an_orange_s2k · 04-05-2008, 02:32 AM

hread about this on the s2ki boards...this fawkin sucks cops need to focus on other things that are more important

*Nismoknightska-t* · 04-05-2008, 03:59 AM

i think its gonna get worse but truthfully i could care less..

1-2 ref tickets a year isnt that bad for driving around with a fully built motor..

brewster240 · 04-05-2008, 04:31 AM

i hope this shit stays out in cali.

well they do it here to, but not that bad.

*TheSquidd* · 04-05-2008, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by adrians_s13

why bother the import car enthusiasts... I'd say like 70% of them are
1) young 2) broke

Because people that are young and broke, can't FIGHT tickets by hiring expensive lawyers, and thus depriving the state of the money it attempted to steal.

People that drive Ferrari's and Lamborghini's CAN afford to fight tickets. Hell half of them are lawyers in the first place.

And yeah, the argument that cop made: "Why would you modify your car if you don't street race?"

Because I can't afford a Porsche or Ferrari, but I want a car that performs as close to one as possible. Because I'm a testosterone filled punk ass that loves the rumble of a motor and the feel of acceleration. Does this mean I street race? Hell no, I hardly ever break the speed limits (I move with the flow of traffic, if the flow is 80mph on the freeway, I do 80mph.).

But on the weekends I like to be able to take my car to the track, and at least the acceleration up to 45mph is "interesting".

THAT is why I modify my car.

With his attitude, why would ANYONE buy a car that goes faster that the speed limit? Why buy a powerful German luxury sedan that does 0-60 in 5 seconds and tops out at 180mph? OBVIOUSLY whoever is buying THAT car is street racing.

That one statement says SO MUCH about the law enforcement officers in our state it's ridiculous. THAT is how far our officers have their heads up their asses around here.

a_ahmed · 04-05-2008, 09:37 AM

well if it makes anyone feel better i got a 60km/hr speeding ticket in a 50km/hr zone two days ago

he was a nice guy at least... lol, he seemed new and most new cops are assholes. Was a young guy, my age, I was like cmon man what is this im going to pick up my wife from a frickin hair saloon; guy gave me a ticket i gotta pay 40 bux 0 points.. woopie do but so lame

Unlike the asshole who gave me a 67 over speeding ticket in rural farm lands in a '50' zone which was actually an 80 not a 50 zone, I went back there and saw the 50 zone buffer which was not visible AND short AND the asses hid there on a holiday. No soul ever even drives there somehow they happened to be there. Been a year since that incident but alas. You can't even hear a cow moo, that's how retarded farm field remote rural it is... what pisses me off is how the guy was grinning and cynical.

Fight every ticket, the government doesn't deserve your hard earned money.

Traffic police/tickets and everything associated with it is nothing but a business. Guess how many millions of dollars did the canadian government lose on 'family day' where the courts decided to 'forgive all cases' and dropped all tickets/court dates that day? Just guesst.... then look it up. It's nothing but a large scam. I HATE when I hear 'safety' bullshit, but then see roads crumbling with basketball size holes and grannies driving 50 on a highway or whatever.

Oh and, lmao, all the hypocracy of some people who throw 'take it to the track' slogans, when we all know EVERYONE speeds at least a lil including grannies and grandpas with their expensive ferraris/porsches/etc... Guess what started happening? Cops started giving tickets at local canadian tracks HAH! Just waiting for people to get off the track and BOOM ticket (illegal exhaust, car made for street racing, blabla).

Oh and I got a wonderful 30.00$ parking ticket for stepping out of my car in toronto downtown for like 5 minutes to pick up my wife from college where there is virtually no parking ever. WOW THATS SUCH A GREAT FEELING! I SAW the parking meter fag give me the ticket right in front of me! So 70 bux of my hard earned money just went to the government for jack shit.

What I ALSO love is how cops CAN turn their lights on and then run red lights if they please or how they ENJOY speeding and taking corners fast when they see fit even though they have no emergency or anything like that. OH AND when they have banged up cars (eg; one headlight only working), how come we can't give them damn tickets and earn a lil money lol. Oh they are trained professionals LMAO bullshit!

its_teddd · 04-05-2008, 07:40 PM

wow dude thats super foul. plus why is the cop driving a hummer?! the goverment likes to waste gas?!?!? wahhh!??!

dragon_x330 · 04-08-2008, 02:44 PM

Wow, that's gay. Thank god I live in WI. Cops are asses here, but they're not anal...yet.

*PoorMans180SX* · 04-08-2008, 03:54 PM

I heard about his on the news.

Lame attempt at getting money.

I agree with most of the posts here.

Flipzide · 04-08-2008, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquidd

Because people that are young and broke, can't FIGHT tickets by hiring expensive lawyers, and thus depriving the state of the money it attempted to steal.

People that drive Ferrari's and Lamborghini's CAN afford to fight tickets. Hell half of them are lawyers in the first place.

And yeah, the argument that cop made: "Why would you modify your car if you don't street race?"

But on the weekends I like to be able to take my car to the track, and at least the acceleration up to 45mph is "interesting".

THAT is why I modify my car.

With his attitude, why would ANYONE buy a car that goes faster that the speed limit? Why buy a powerful German luxury sedan that does 0-60 in 5 seconds and tops out at 180mph? OBVIOUSLY whoever is buying THAT car is street racing.

That one statement says SO MUCH about the law enforcement officers in our state it's ridiculous. THAT is how far our officers have their heads up their asses around here.

That's exactly what I was thinking. You took the words right out of my mouth. I was going to post something along the same lines on the comments in autoblog, but it'll get ignored anyway...

*steve shadows* · 04-08-2008, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquidd

With his attitude, why would ANYONE buy a car that goes faster that the speed limit? Why buy a powerful German luxury sedan that does 0-60 in 5 seconds and tops out at 180mph? OBVIOUSLY whoever is buying THAT car is street racing.

That one statement says SO MUCH about the law enforcement officers in our state it's ridiculous. THAT is how far our officers have their heads up their asses around here.

EXACTLY

Why do they allow people to buy 600 hp Mercedes ?

to get milk?

Jodan · 04-08-2008, 06:06 PM

thank god im not in shitville cali

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ZilviaBot Zilvia.net Bot Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 175 Trader Rating: (0)	Police raid California car enthusiast gathering to generate revenue Filed under: Tuners, Government/Legal It isn't uncommon for automotive enthusiast groups to organize gatherings in large commercial parking lots. Quite often the local businesses even support the groups due to increased sales generated by the crowds. Such is apparently not the case in Riverside, California. The city believes large automotive-focused get togethers promote street racing and that must also be the purpose of any vehicle equipped with performance modifications. To quell the situation, last Friday night around 11PM, police surprised 150 vehicles and their owners during a meet at Canyon Crossing shopping center. Fifty police cruisers from Riverside County, Irwindale, Ontario and a few other regions were paid overtime to block off parking lot exits and issue citations. Tickets were written for illegal modifications, paperwork violations, window tint and having no front license plate. Twenty vehicles were even impounded due to suspected stolen parts. The funds for the crackdown, and others like it, get drained from the California state gas tax account. Typically the gas tax goes towards transportation maintenance and improvements, like better roads and public transport. Rather than put all the money into aiding traffic flow, California's math calculations have determined that more revenue can be generated by handing out fix-it tickets with increased frequency. Of course, that is as long as the violation fares are more than law enforcement overtime expenses. Even still, most likely a few folks will fight their citations and thus drain more funds from the state government through the legislative process. Thanks for the tip everyone! [Source: theNewspaper.com] Â* ReadÂ\|ÂPermalink \| Email this \| Comments More...

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adrians_s13 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: long beach, CA ^_^ Age: 24 Posts: 1,694 Trader Rating: (5)	why bother the import car enthusiasts... I'd say like 70% of them are 1) young 2) broke I'd like to see police raid like a cars and coffee meet in Irvine, haha... well, I wouldnt really... but man, that just sucks balls. Cars and Coffee meets are almost the same thing... a bunch of dude standing around in a parking lot showing off their cars and talking gearhead talk... __________________

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Xmax Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Chicago area Age: 27 Posts: 56 Trader Rating: (0)	Giving tickets is a business operation, even though the police is here to serve and protect, they are business professionals to generate revenue for the city and state. Nothing new. But in a way that is a good thing, that they did this, because they cracked down on people that have stolen parts on their cars. Which is a few less thieves on the street.

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LongGrain Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: WI Posts: 1,999 Trader Rating: (2)	just read about this on another forum. another reason i dont live in cali.

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Taniguchi_Is_#1 Loose Socks Daisuki Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Philadelphia, PA Age: 21 Posts: 1,547 Trader Rating: (0)	wait. if performance mods MUST be for street racing, how is it that i see dudes in camaros, mustangs, and other cars of that sort (read: domestic) cruising around with 1000 dB exhaust and NOS in the back window without any sort of second look from the man? where i grew up, if there was a civic with a muffler next to an F-body at a light, and the F-body's revs climbed as it accelerated through the light, the civic would get a ticket and the F-body would get a high five. fuck that. tomorrow, i'm selling the G20, and i'm gonna buy a trans am. shit is wack.

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besTint Tint Master Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Stanton, CA Posts: 470 Trader Rating: (11) Rides Gallery: besTint	make more tracks so people dont street race.

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s14_legend Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Doing it big one day at a time Posts: 1,294 Trader Rating: (0)	sucks that this is how our government makes money...tisk tisk

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wylin Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Fob Land Socal Age: 30 Posts: 610 Trader Rating: (0)	i think they should stick to ticketing speeders and other forms of driver education through tickets. Wasting money on modded cars is kind of stupid IMHO. If they really wanted to stop street racing they'd, go browse forums for places that people drift, drag, and touge. That would be a better idea and more in line with protecting the public versus attacking a large non-mobile car meet. __________________ 2003 G35 sedan, 03 m45, 06 S2000

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handinpants my hand is in my pants ;o) Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: los Angeles Age: 26 Posts: 325 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: handinpants	Wow all this being done in a shopping center parking lot which is most likely private property, so the property owner can be held liable for this. But I would call Greg doll and double check this. __________________ I'm like a crack addict that can't quit smoking, where as I can't stop modifying my s13!

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an_orange_s2k Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: san francisco Age: 20 Posts: 1,033 Trader Rating: (1)	hread about this on the s2ki boards...this fawkin sucks cops need to focus on other things that are more important __________________

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Nismoknightska-t Premium Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: why do i live this way?? it must be the money! Age: 23 Posts: 319 Trader Rating: (0)	i think its gonna get worse but truthfully i could care less.. 1-2 ref tickets a year isnt that bad for driving around with a fully built motor.. __________________ NismoKnights Terrorizing Honda crews since 2003 ls2 powered s13 cam/intake/exhaust/tuned at CMS 420rwhp all motor!! http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8LFLSDQFbk http://groups.myspace.com/Nismoknights

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brewster240 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: ny Age: 26 Posts: 378 Trader Rating: (0)	i hope this shit stays out in cali. well they do it here to, but not that bad.

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a_ahmed BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Oakville, Ontario Posts: 751 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: a_ahmed	well if it makes anyone feel better i got a 60km/hr speeding ticket in a 50km/hr zone two days ago he was a nice guy at least... lol, he seemed new and most new cops are assholes. Was a young guy, my age, I was like cmon man what is this im going to pick up my wife from a frickin hair saloon; guy gave me a ticket i gotta pay 40 bux 0 points.. woopie do but so lame Unlike the asshole who gave me a 67 over speeding ticket in rural farm lands in a '50' zone which was actually an 80 not a 50 zone, I went back there and saw the 50 zone buffer which was not visible AND short AND the asses hid there on a holiday. No soul ever even drives there somehow they happened to be there. Been a year since that incident but alas. You can't even hear a cow moo, that's how retarded farm field remote rural it is... what pisses me off is how the guy was grinning and cynical. Fight every ticket, the government doesn't deserve your hard earned money. Traffic police/tickets and everything associated with it is nothing but a business. Guess how many millions of dollars did the canadian government lose on 'family day' where the courts decided to 'forgive all cases' and dropped all tickets/court dates that day? Just guesst.... then look it up. It's nothing but a large scam. I HATE when I hear 'safety' bullshit, but then see roads crumbling with basketball size holes and grannies driving 50 on a highway or whatever. Oh and, lmao, all the hypocracy of some people who throw 'take it to the track' slogans, when we all know EVERYONE speeds at least a lil including grannies and grandpas with their expensive ferraris/porsches/etc... Guess what started happening? Cops started giving tickets at local canadian tracks HAH! Just waiting for people to get off the track and BOOM ticket (illegal exhaust, car made for street racing, blabla). Oh and I got a wonderful 30.00$ parking ticket for stepping out of my car in toronto downtown for like 5 minutes to pick up my wife from college where there is virtually no parking ever. WOW THATS SUCH A GREAT FEELING! I SAW the parking meter fag give me the ticket right in front of me! So 70 bux of my hard earned money just went to the government for jack shit. What I ALSO love is how cops CAN turn their lights on and then run red lights if they please or how they ENJOY speeding and taking corners fast when they see fit even though they have no emergency or anything like that. OH AND when they have banged up cars (eg; one headlight only working), how come we can't give them damn tickets and earn a lil money lol. Oh they are trained professionals LMAO bullshit! Last edited by a_ahmed; 04-05-2008 at 09:57 AM.

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its_teddd Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: westminster, california Age: 17 Posts: 148 Trader Rating: (1)	wow dude thats super foul. plus why is the cop driving a hummer?! the goverment likes to waste gas?!?!? wahhh!??!

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