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*roboticnissan* · 06-28-2012, 08:38 PM

I just recently went to horse thief mile with a bone stock dual cam ka. I didnt connect the downhill switchback once. I felt like a few times i came close but i dont have an e brake to hold the drift.

Is it even doable or am i just dreaming. Its a pretty looong gap.

240zach · 06-28-2012, 09:06 PM

how fast were you going?

*roboticnissan* · 06-28-2012, 10:32 PM

Top of second 60mph~

Banana_Cute · 06-28-2012, 10:47 PM

clutch kick, clutch kick. hahahha. cmon now, if keichii was able to drift in his underpowered 86. Im sure you can. Just keep practicing and you'll get your lines you want.

intake, header exhaust. clutch and light flywheel and a welded diff would prolli give you a lil more boost.

*roboticnissan* · 06-28-2012, 11:14 PM

When did kt slide an 86 on htm?

240zach · 06-28-2012, 11:35 PM

re clutch kick that shit. lol and i would try to hold the drift as much as possible from the first turn then rip the fuck outta the e brake when you transfer and re clutch kick before you lose to much speed. but thats just what id try. lol

Banana_Cute · 06-29-2012, 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roboticnissan

When did kt slide an 86 on htm?

im talking about in general, you dumb motherfucker!

*roboticnissan* · 06-29-2012, 10:29 AM

Youve never been htm have you?

jordaninnovations · 06-29-2012, 12:36 PM

Karl Wasabi can do it. BOSS.

evilpanamajack · 06-29-2012, 12:39 PM

Were is this HTM? located i want to try it

*1on1* · 06-29-2012, 01:31 PM

Willow Springs Raceway in Rosamond, CA

*K_style* · 06-29-2012, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Banana_Cute

im talking about in general, you dumb motherfucker!

Woah woah waoh.. watch out your language mister..

Quote:

Originally Posted by roboticnissan

Youve never been htm have you?

I bet my 2 quarts of oil !!!

Any ways.. I have seen KAs doing HTM.. It's do-able definitely but can't say if you could connect all the turns.. I know Fckillerbee did it in his Zenki with KA in it... he posted video somewhere here..

Banana_Cute · 06-29-2012, 01:55 PM

No, I havent. Like someone in here once said, Not everyone in a 240 drift.

but I've seen plenty of vids.

*K_style* · 06-29-2012, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Banana_Cute

No, I havent. Like someone in here once said, Not everyone in a 240 drift.

but I've seen plenty of vids.

You don't have to drift to go to HTM.. You could spectate or you could have done time attack.

If you have seen videos of people drifting HTM then you would know how nasty uphills and downhills are.. it would take quite skill to drift and connect all coners with underpower vehicles.

Banana_Cute · 06-29-2012, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by K_style

You don't have to drift to go to HTM.. You could spectate or you could have done time attack.

If you have seen videos of people drifting HTM then you would know how nasty uphills and downhills are.. it would take quite skill to drift and connect all coners with underpower vehicles.

yes, and i never said it was impossible. That's why i stated if KC was able to out drift some cars with his under powered 86, with a lil more practice from the OP, it is possible. and like you said as well. That's all my argument was about.

fckillerbee · 06-29-2012, 02:30 PM

seen it done with my own eyes...more than possible.

really shallow lines....few clutch kicks....and A LOT of praying. haha.

WIKID S4TEEN · 06-29-2012, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by evilpanamajack

Were is this HTM? located i want to try it

Way the fack out here
Driving Directions | Willow Springs International Raceway | Since 1953

*karl wasabi* · 06-29-2012, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jordaninnovations

Karl Wasabi can do it. BOSS.

- You drift the top turn as shallow as you can and apex the turn at the VERY END.
- Hold the drift all the way to the left edge of the track and hold that as long as you can.
- You'll need to transition as late as you can and get as close to the right edge of the track as you can (dirt dropping can help... SOMETIMES).
- Clutch kicking won't really help since you will already be at the end of the power band.
- Hold that drift as long as you can until the car is about to straighten out.
- At that point just "rip that ebrake" and wait till you get to the bottom. haha.

And like David said, all the drifts are going to be super shallow.

EDIT: YOU MUST HAVE AN EBRAKE.

nieko · 06-29-2012, 05:17 PM

Exactly what KARL WASABI had stated. I did it a million times with my SOHC KA.

With a KA you MUST have an eBrake. SR and pretty much any other motor you can do it without eBrake.

PS PS: I knew Hammy and Wasabi would be here. I like how this thread grabbed all of our attention, haha.

foreverdark · 06-29-2012, 06:33 PM

Piece of cake! KA 15's done!

ZX88 · 06-29-2012, 08:13 PM

ask BH...............

*EDacIouSX* · 06-29-2012, 10:15 PM

yea... shouldn't be ridiculously hard if you have the right tire/wheel setup. I hear from a lot of people that it's not impossible.

Flybert · 06-30-2012, 12:19 PM

Watch BH.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PO4dj...youtu.be&t=42s

He slightly straightens out coming out of the first turn but that is the exact line you have to take to make it. A dirt drop might help you extend but I feel that would be cheating a little.

And listen to Karl. Everything he said was spot on.

*1on1* · 06-30-2012, 07:00 PM

There's also a video of BH explaining on how to take HTM in the first 3-15 pages of this thread iirc.

Brian · 06-30-2012, 10:05 PM

I also have this one. I like it because it goes longer on the track than that other video.

ASB 4 Brian Harte &Mark Slide Squad Drifting w caddyshack! - YouTube

Just don't be afraid of going off track a few times...

Brian · 06-30-2012, 10:11 PM

This is a good point to be at

This is a little too much

TheRealSy90 · 07-01-2012, 06:14 AM

Off topic but, is that the 14 that got painted silver and sold to David Titus?

*roboticnissan* · 07-02-2012, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fckillerbee

seen it done with my own eyes...more than possible.

really shallow lines....few clutch kicks....and A LOT of praying. haha.

The shallow lines was what i was thinking. More speed and less angle. I guess it doesnt matter cuz imma be turbo in a few days. I think having a super angle kit screwed me over cuz it made me think i could make it i guess.

cantdrift11 · 07-04-2012, 02:16 PM

Great thread. I've seen guys with pretty much stock ka's connect at htm. I'm having the same dilemma myself hahaha. Having a 4dr 3100lb car and with headers, exhaust and intake barely putting 200 at the wheel. I go super shallow full speed and when I transition I end up usually to late and go hard wide into the dirt. THAT or don't get the balls to connect and straighten out real quick.

fckillerbee · 07-05-2012, 10:38 AM

well...if you aren't drifting at red line...you are probably going too slow...you litterally take everything that a KA has to link that section.

06-28-2012, 08:38 PM	#1
roboticnissan Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: SOCAL/NORCAL Age: 24 Posts: 1,827 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	htm doable with a Ka motor? I just recently went to horse thief mile with a bone stock dual cam ka. I didnt connect the downhill switchback once. I felt like a few times i came close but i dont have an e brake to hold the drift. Is it even doable or am i just dreaming. Its a pretty looong gap. __________________

06-28-2012, 10:32 PM	#3
roboticnissan Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: SOCAL/NORCAL Age: 24 Posts: 1,827 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	Top of second 60mph~ __________________

06-28-2012, 10:47 PM	#4
Banana_Cute Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Irvine, So. Cal. Age: 26 Posts: 1,119 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	clutch kick, clutch kick. hahahha. cmon now, if keichii was able to drift in his underpowered 86. Im sure you can. Just keep practicing and you'll get your lines you want. intake, header exhaust. clutch and light flywheel and a welded diff would prolli give you a lil more boost. __________________ Simplicity is the key to brilliance

06-28-2012, 11:14 PM	#5
roboticnissan Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: SOCAL/NORCAL Age: 24 Posts: 1,827 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	When did kt slide an 86 on htm? __________________

06-29-2012, 10:29 AM	#8
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06-28-2012, 09:06 PM	#2
240zach Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 916 Posts: 700 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	how fast were you going?

06-28-2012, 11:35 PM	#6
240zach Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 916 Posts: 700 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	re clutch kick that shit. lol and i would try to hold the drift as much as possible from the first turn then rip the fuck outta the e brake when you transfer and re clutch kick before you lose to much speed. but thats just what id try. lol

06-29-2012, 12:36 PM	#9
jordaninnovations Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Irwindale, CA Posts: 894 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Karl Wasabi can do it. BOSS. __________________ Like Jordan Innovations on Facebook! www.JordanInnovations.com!

06-29-2012, 12:39 PM	#10
evilpanamajack Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: oc Age: 26 Posts: 716 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Were is this HTM? located i want to try it __________________ Dntdoit

06-29-2012, 01:55 PM	#13
Banana_Cute Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Irvine, So. Cal. Age: 26 Posts: 1,119 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	No, I havent. Like someone in here once said, Not everyone in a 240 drift. but I've seen plenty of vids. __________________ Simplicity is the key to brilliance

06-29-2012, 02:30 PM	#16
fckillerbee Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: where the girls are prettier Age: 28 Posts: 4,263 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	seen it done with my own eyes...more than possible. really shallow lines....few clutch kicks....and A LOT of praying. haha. __________________ Portrait. Japanese. Freehand. facebook.com/davidhamburgtattoo

06-29-2012, 05:17 PM	#19
nieko Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Westminster Age: 22 Posts: 2,684 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	Exactly what KARL WASABI had stated. I did it a million times with my SOHC KA. With a KA you MUST have an eBrake. SR and pretty much any other motor you can do it without eBrake. PS PS: I knew Hammy and Wasabi would be here. I like how this thread grabbed all of our attention, haha. __________________

06-29-2012, 06:33 PM	#20
foreverdark Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Redondo Beach,CA Age: 28 Posts: 2,325 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	Piece of cake! KA 15's done! __________________

06-29-2012, 08:13 PM	#21
ZX88 Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: New Joisey Age: 24 Posts: 2,603 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	ask BH............... __________________ SNOW PANTS OR NO PANTS.

06-29-2012, 10:15 PM	#22
EDacIouSX Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Los Angeles Age: 27 Posts: 3,846 Trader Rating: (42) Rides Gallery: EDacIouSX Feedback Score: 42 reviews	yea... shouldn't be ridiculously hard if you have the right tire/wheel setup. I hear from a lot of people that it's not impossible. __________________ Me: What kind of car do you have? Kid: *STANCED* silvia Me:

06-30-2012, 12:19 PM	#23
Flybert Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Los Angeles/Orange County Age: 32 Posts: 3,837 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Watch BH. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PO4dj...youtu.be&t=42s He slightly straightens out coming out of the first turn but that is the exact line you have to take to make it. A dirt drop might help you extend but I feel that would be cheating a little. And listen to Karl. Everything he said was spot on. __________________ Citytire Online -They support us so we should support them

06-30-2012, 10:05 PM	#25
Brian Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: long beach california Age: 29 Posts: 12,749 Trader Rating: (54) Rides Gallery: Brian Feedback Score: 54 reviews	I also have this one. I like it because it goes longer on the track than that other video. ASB 4 Brian Harte &Mark Slide Squad Drifting w caddyshack! - YouTube Just don't be afraid of going off track a few times... __________________ http://bhworld.wordpress.com/

06-30-2012, 10:11 PM	#26
Brian Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: long beach california Age: 29 Posts: 12,749 Trader Rating: (54) Rides Gallery: Brian Feedback Score: 54 reviews	This is a good point to be at This is a little too much __________________ http://bhworld.wordpress.com/

07-04-2012, 02:16 PM	#29
cantdrift11 Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: los angeles Posts: 125 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Great thread. I've seen guys with pretty much stock ka's connect at htm. I'm having the same dilemma myself hahaha. Having a 4dr 3100lb car and with headers, exhaust and intake barely putting 200 at the wheel. I go super shallow full speed and when I transition I end up usually to late and go hard wide into the dirt. THAT or don't get the balls to connect and straighten out real quick.

07-05-2012, 10:38 AM	#30
fckillerbee Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: where the girls are prettier Age: 28 Posts: 4,263 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	well...if you aren't drifting at red line...you are probably going too slow...you litterally take everything that a KA has to link that section. __________________ Portrait. Japanese. Freehand. facebook.com/davidhamburgtattoo

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