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BustedS13 · 01-04-2010, 02:59 PM

The Year In Pot: Top 10 Events That Will Change the Way We Think About Marijuana | DrugReporter | AlterNet

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There has been a tidal shift in politics and on Marijuana laws in America, from Obama lightening up on pot prosecutions to the recognition of cancer prevention properties.

#1 Obama Administration: Don’t Focus On Medical Marijuana Prosecutions
United States Deputy Attorney General David Ogden issued a memorandum to federal prosecutors in October directing them to not “focus federal resources … on individuals whose actions are in clear and unambiguous compliance with existing state laws providing for the medical use of marijuana.” The directive upheld a campaign promise by President Barack Obama, who had previously pledged that he was “not going to be using Justice Department resources to try to circumvent state laws on this issue.” Read the full story here.

#2 Public Support For Legalizing Pot Hits All-Time High
A majority of U.S. voters now support legalizing marijuana, according to a national poll of 1,004 likely voters published in December by Angus Reid. The Angus Reid Public Opinion poll results echo those of separate national polls conducted this year by Gallup, Zogby, ABC News, CBS News, Rasmussen Reports, and the California Field Poll, each of which reported greater public support for marijuana legalization than ever before. Read the full story here.

#3 Lifetime Marijuana Use Associated With Reduced Cancer Risk
The moderate long-term use of cannabis is associated with a reduced risk of head and neck cancer, according to the results of a population-based control study published in August by the journal Cancer Prevention Research. Authors reported, “After adjusting for potential confounders (including smoking and alcohol drinking), 10 to 20 years of marijuana use was associated with a significantly reduced risk of head and neck squamous cell carcinoma.” Read the full story here.

#4 AMA Calls For Review Of Marijuana’s Prohibitive Status
In November, the American Medical Association resolved that marijuana should longer be classified as a Schedule I prohibited substance. Drugs classified in Schedule I are defined as possessing “no currently accepted use in treatment in the United States.” In a separate action, the AMA also determined, “Results of short term controlled trials indicate that smoked cannabis reduces neuropathic pain, improves appetite and caloric intake especially in patients with reduced muscle mass, and may relieve spasticity and pain in patients with multiple sclerosis.” Read the full story here.

#5 California: Lawmakers Hold Historic Hearing On Marijuana Legalization
State lawmakers heard testimony in October in support of taxing and regulating the commercial production and distribution of cannabis for adults age 21 and older. Additional hearings, as well as a vote on Assembly Bill 390: the Marijuana Control, Regulation, and Education Act, are scheduled for January 12, 2010. Read the full story here.

#6 Maine Voters Approve Medical Marijuana Dispensaries Measure; Dispensaries Coming To Rhode Island, Washington, DC In 2010
Voters in November decided in favor of a statewide measure that allows for the state to license non-profit facilities to distribute medical cannabis to qualified patients. The vote marked the first time that citizens ever approved a statewide ballot proposal authorizing the creation of dispensaries. In June, Rhode Island lawmakers enacted a similar measure. In December, Congress lifted federal restrictions to allow for the DC City Council to implement provisions of a ten-year-old medical marijuana law that would allow for the use and distribution of medicinal cannabis in the District of Columbia. Read the full story here.

#7 Oakland: Voters Approve First-In-The-Nation Medical Marijuana Business Tax
In July 80 percent of municipal voters approved Ballot Measure F, the nation’s first ever business tax on the retail sales of cannabis. The tax, which takes effect on January 1, imposes an exclusive tax for “cannabis businesses” of $18 for every $1,000 of gross receipts. Read the full story here.

#8 Rasmussen Poll: Majority Of Americans Say Marijuana Is Safer Than Alcohol
More than half of American adults believe that alcohol is “more dangerous” than marijuana, according to the results of a national telephone poll of 1,000 likely voters published in September by Rasmussen Reports. Fifty-one percent of respondents, including a majority of women, rated the use of marijuana to be less dangerous than alcohol. Only 19 percent of those polled said that cannabis is the more dangerous of the two substances. Read the full story here.

#9 Many Teens See Medical Cannabis As Alternative Treatment Option
Some one-third of adolescents view their use of marijuana as therapeutic rather than recreational, according to survey data published in May by the journal Substance Abuse, Treatment, Prevention and Policy. Teens most commonly reported using cannabis therapeutically to counter symptoms of depression, stress and anxiety, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), physical pain, and sleeplessness. In November several mainstream media outlets, including The New York Times and Good Morning America, featured stories on adolescents using marijuana as a medicine. Read the full story here.

#10 Oregon NORML Opens ‘Cannabis Café,’ Media Frenzy Follows
In November Oregon NORML opened the state’s first café catering to state-authorized medical marijuana patients. Unlike conventional marijuana dispensaries that operate in states like California and Colorado, medical cannabis is not sold on the premises, nor is the primary function of the café to dispense marijuana. “This is not a medical marijuana dispensary with a café; this is a café for medical marijuana patients,” said Madeline Martinez, Oregon NORML Executive Director. The Associated Press, Reuters, USA Today, The New York Times, and Democracy Now were among the hundreds of media outlets that covered the story. Read the full story here.

20 til 3 · 01-04-2010, 04:03 PM

breckenridge didnt make it? o well, i will give it 3 more years before its medically used in every state, and 5 years before its legal for recreational use

*future240* · 01-04-2010, 04:11 PM

Those are all huge. I think number 9 is very significant since some of those teens will end up as registered voters who are pro-marijuana.

BustedS13 · 01-04-2010, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 20 til 3

breckenridge didnt make it? o well, i will give it 3 more years before its medically used in every state, and 5 years before its legal for recreational use

did you know possession of an ounce has been legal statewide in Alaska for like a decade or something crazy? that's probably why Breckenridge wasn't that big of a deal... although it is a big deal, because it's in a state that matters.

cc4usmc · 01-04-2010, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BustedS13

did you know possession of an ounce has been legal statewide in Alaska for like a decade or something crazy?

You can also buy a gun, load it, shove it in your pocket and walk out the door. Then you hit the mall, the store, the movies and not be breaking the law. Do you see that happening in California just because you can in Alaska?

BustedS13 · 01-04-2010, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by cc4usmc

You can also buy a gun, load it, shove it in your pocket and walk out the door. Then you hit the mall, the store, the movies and not be breaking the law. Do you see that happening in California just because you can in Alaska?

.....no? what do the two have to do with each other? furthermore, we were talking about Breckenridge Colorado, we weren't talking about California.
let me fill you in since you're lost:
Breckenridge, CO legalized possession this year. He was wondering why it didn't make this list. I replied that an entire state has already legalized possession, which is probably why it wasn't seen as a big deal.

cc4usmc · 01-04-2010, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BustedS13

.....no? what do the two have to do with each other? furthermore, we were talking about Breckenridge Colorado, we weren't talking about California.
let me fill you in since you're lost:
Breckenridge, CO legalized possession this year. He was wondering why it didn't make this list. I replied that an entire state has already legalized possession, which is probably why it wasn't seen as a big deal.

You missed my point, as usual. I'll just stay out of your threads from now on.

BustedS13 · 01-04-2010, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by cc4usmc

You missed my point, as usual. I'll just stay out of your threads from now on.

please let me know what your point was, i'd love to know.

*RedEvilRPS13* · 01-04-2010, 06:14 PM

I don't smoke it, and never have, but I don't get why it isn't legal. I mean cmon, cigarettes can cause cancer, and their still legal.

BustedS13 · 01-04-2010, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RedEvilRPS13

I don't smoke it, and never have, but I don't get why it isn't legal. I mean cmon, cigarettes can cause cancer, and their still legal.

as much as it makes me sound like a hippie, it's entirely money and lobbying.

*HalveBlue* · 01-04-2010, 06:33 PM

People tend to forget, tobacco made America rich!

I for one, am interested to see how this issue plays out.

Also, while I can't speak for cc4usmc, perhaps he was alluding to the concept of federalism?

BustedS13 · 01-04-2010, 06:38 PM

best i can figure is he's saying Alaska isn't the same as California, so it shouldn't come as a surprise that they have different laws.
but that had nothing to do with the subject at hand, which is why i'm confused

*XnTroubleX* · 01-04-2010, 06:48 PM

I used to smoke pot daily for years, now I havent smoked in like 6 years nor do I want to, Even though I have no desire to smoke it again, I havent ever understood why it wasn't legal. Ive (like most others) have always referred to the excuse as the government does not have a firm structured way of taxing it yet! When they figure that out then it will become legal, when It does become legal, I would think that there will be very stiff laws against producing it. The government will make it so that you have to buy their over taxed pot!

BustedS13 · 01-04-2010, 07:18 PM

that sounds plausible, but i think it might go differently considering medical marijuana patients in CA can grow up to six plants...
plus, there's no real restriction on growing tobacco, or brewing your own beer for personal use.

dert420sx · 01-04-2010, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by XnTroubleX

I used to smoke pot daily for years, now I havent smoked in like 6 years nor do I want to, Even though I have no desire to smoke it again, I havent ever understood why it wasn't legal. Ive (like most others) have always referred to the excuse as the government does not have a firm structured way of taxing it yet! When they figure that out then it will become legal, when It does become legal, I would think that there will be very stiff laws against producing it. The government will make it so that you have to buy their over taxed pot!

not sure how recreational legalization will change things, but here in ca as a medical patient we're already allowed to grow our own.
although i have yet to try since it's really expensive to grow when you factor in money spent on seeds, fertilizer, grow medium, electricity, time, etc.

i'd still much rather just go get some ready to use from the dispensaries.

EDIT: didn't see busted's post before i posted this but i guess he beat me to the growing part. =)

Matej · 01-04-2010, 08:00 PM

Is there any medical condition or worldly problem legal marijuana would not cure? I don't understand why it's not legal yet. Let's feed the starving children already.

*S14_Kouki* · 01-04-2010, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RedEvilRPS13

I don't smoke it, and never have, but I don't get why it isn't legal. I mean cmon, cigarettes can cause cancer, and their still legal.

Yeah and alcohol causes cancer as well and its still legal. Im not saying I want alcohol illegal, not to mention how many ppl get killed each year by ppl driving drunk. Im just saying its really STUPID to have something that harms/kills ppl legal and have marijuana that help ppl illegal. Seems the government is ass backwards.

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Originally Posted by HalveBlue

People tend to forget, tobacco made America rich!

I for one, am interested to see how this issue plays out.

Also, while I can't speak for cc4usmc, perhaps he was alluding to the concept of federalism?

Did you also know that hemp help make America also.

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Originally Posted by dert420sx

not sure how recreational legalization will change things, but here in ca as a medical patient we're already allowed to grow our own.
although i have yet to try since it's really expensive to grow when you factor in money spent on seeds, fertilizer, grow medium, electricity, time, etc.

i'd still much rather just go get some ready to use from the dispensaries.

EDIT: didn't see busted's post before i posted this but i guess he beat me to the growing part. =)

Growing, you are very lucky if you are aloud to grow. I personally would take full advantage of that. You spend like 2k at the must setting up a really really great grow room. But in the long run you can have your own weed for free whenever you want and you can make money by selling it back to the dispensary's. You could prob make a full time job selling it back to the dispensary's depending on how much you grow you could prob bring home from 4-10k a month depending on the quality and quantity.

To busteds13 dont worry about cc4usmc he's a very confused individual lol. But thank you very much for finding and shearing this info. Im glad to see things like #7 it shows that the government can actually tax and regulate weed. It shows a promising future for us weed supports.

Can't wait to see what happens in this up coming year.

dert420sx · 01-05-2010, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by S14_Kouki

Yeah and alcohol causes cancer as well and its still legal. Im not saying I want alcohol illegal, not to mention how many ppl get killed each year by ppl driving drunk. Im just saying its really STUPID to have something that harms/kills ppl legal and have marijuana that help ppl illegal. Seems the government is ass backwards.

the government is back asswards when it comes to things we already know for sure can and will be dangerous for us.
lots of things are legal that can potentially kill us, like cars and guns. it all comes down to personal restraint and educating everyone of the consequences, and keeping it out of the hands of anyone unstable enough to cause harm to others.

i guess that was the idea, anyway.

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Growing, you are very lucky if you are aloud to grow. I personally would take full advantage of that. You spend like 2k at the must setting up a really really great grow room. But in the long run you can have your own weed for free whenever you want and you can make money by selling it back to the dispensary's. You could prob make a full time job selling it back to the dispensary's depending on how much you grow you could prob bring home from 4-10k a month depending on the quality and quantity.

yeah, i have a friend who takes full advantage of this. the only thing is that he cannot work anymore so he has all the time to tend to his garden.
but how do you medicate while you're waiting for the crops to mature??
you'd still be stuck going to the dispensary for ready to use herb while you wait which still equates into more money spent.

been a patient for the past few years and i have also looked into it. but based on my needs (and the damn nosy ass neighborhood watch),
i calculated that to just break even is not worth all the hassle and cost of growing for me. i also have a regular 9-5 job that i need to keep for the cash flow so that kills most of my time. i prefer the herb that the commercial growers produce anyway since they've been doing it for years already and have perfected their craft. and besides, most well established dispensaries already have agreements with lots of commercial growers and/or grow some of their own too. it is not like a noob can just walk into a dispensary with a duffel bag of the stuff and ask if anyone wanted to buy it. that's quite a pipe dream you got there! lol

but of course if money were of no object, and i had the space and no pesky neighborhood watch i'd probably go with one of these:
https://www.omegagarden.com/index.php?content_id=172

the dude at the lazy gardener shop in whittier was growing some FAT tomatoes with it.

*S14_Kouki* · 01-05-2010, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dert420sx

yeah, i have a friend who takes full advantage of this. the only thing is that he cannot work anymore so he has all the time to tend to his garden.
but how do you medicate while you're waiting for the crops to mature??
you'd still be stuck going to the dispensary for ready to use herb while you wait which still equates into more money spent.

been a patient for the past few years and i have also looked into it. but based on my needs (and the damn nosy ass neighborhood watch),
i calculated that to just break even is not worth all the hassle and cost of growing for me. i also have a regular 9-5 job that i need to keep for the cash flow so that kills most of my time. i prefer the herb that the commercial growers produce anyway since they've been doing it for years already and have perfected their craft. and besides, most well established dispensaries already have agreements with lots of commercial growers and/or grow some of their own too. it is not like a noob can just walk into a dispensary with a duffel bag of the stuff and ask if anyone wanted to buy it. that's quite a pipe dream you got there! lol

but of course if money were of no object, and i had the space and no pesky neighborhood watch i'd probably go with one of these:
https://www.omegagarden.com/index.php?content_id=172

the dude at the lazy gardener shop in whittier was growing some FAT tomatoes with it.

I dont want to get into the whole weed growing since this is zilvia and im sure they dont want us talking about weed growing lol. But It does take alot of time at first and having a nice job already. But once you got everything going with the growing room and the plants. Its really all down hill from there and you dont have to grow then harvest then wait however long to harvest again. Pretty much you use clippings or "clones" from plants that u have already growin and that cuts the waiting time down by months. So pretty much simple terms if you knew what you were doing and had a solid plan. Then you would harvest every 1-2 months depending from how you grew the plants you could get 1-2 pounds a plant lets say you harvest 4-5 plants every 2 months at 1.5 pounds a plant of dro "high quality weed" thats 6 pounds every 2 months sell it back to the dispensaries for 2k a pound "thats very cheap price could be upwards of 3.5k" your looking at 12k every 2 months. Hell I really want to fucking do it now lol. But it is hard to get everything started and set-up right. So if you wanted to keep your 9-5 job and just start growing personal and if you want, get a clone of one of your best plants and make the grow room alittle bigger with acouple more plants from your clone.

Remm everyone weed is just going to get bigger in the future so if you start little stuff now you might make your own business out of it in a year or two and work for yourself making shit loads of money LEGALLY

BustedS13 · 01-05-2010, 04:11 PM

those numbers are... wishful thinking, to be honest with you. it takes about 3 months for your plants to mature, and you're going to get a few ounces per plant in a best-case scenario on an indoor grow. but i believe there are ways to become a "caregiver" for members of dispensaries, giving you the right to grow more plants, still legal under California law.
of course, you could grow in cycles and have a smaller harvest every month, but you'd again need permission to grow more plants to do it legally. i'd imagine this is what most growers would do, to keep a steady supply out the door to dispensaries.
but if you're talking about outdoor growing, well, yeah, i could see a couple pounds coming off this monster:

but that'd still take longer than two months to grow, that's for sure.

Bubbles · 01-05-2010, 04:14 PM

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.....no? what do the two have to do with each other?

It would appear, if you live in Cali, Cali = world.

BustedS13 · 01-05-2010, 11:41 PM

speaking of California. there's a vote on the 12th to legalize. if any of you Californians are pro legalization, please take five minutes to read this article and familiarize yourself with the bill. then call or email those voting and let them know your opinion.

California: Historic Vote On Cannabis Regulation To Take Place On Tuesday, January 12 | NORML Blog

COMMITTEE OF PUBLIC SAFETY

Tom Ammiano - Chair

Dem-13 (916) 319-2013 Assemblymember.Ammiano@assembly.ca.gov

Curt Hagman - Vice Chair

Rep-60 (916) 319-2060 Assemblymember.Hagman@assembly.ca.gov

Juan Arambula

Ind-31 (916) 319-2031 Assemblymember.Arambula@assembly.ca.gov

Warren T. Furutani

Dem-55 (916) 319-2055 Assemblymember.Furutani@assembly.ca.gov

Danny D. Gilmore

Rep-30 (916) 319-2030 Assemblymember.Gilmore@assembly.ca.gov

Jerry Hill

Dem-19 (916) 319-2019 Assemblymember.Hill@assembly.ca.gov

Fiona Ma

Dem-12 (916) 319-2012 Assemblymember.Ma@assembly.ca.gov

COMMITTEE OF HEALTH

Dave Jones - Chair

Dem-9 (916) 319-2009 Assemblymember.jones@assembly.ca.gov

Nathan Fletcher - Vice Chair

Rep-75 (916) 319-2075 Assemblymember.Fletcher@assembly.ca.gov

Anthony Adams

Rep-59 (916) 319-2059 Assemblymember.Adams@assembly.ca.gov

Tom Ammiano

Dem-13 (916) 319-2013 Assemblymember.Ammiano@assembly.ca.gov

Marty Block

Dem-78 (916) 319-2078 Assemblymember.Block@assembly.ca.gov

Wilmer Amina Carter

Dem-62 (916) 319-2062 Assemblymember.Carter@assembly.ca.gov

Connie Conway

Rep-34 (916) 319-2034 Assemblymember.Conway@assembly.ca.gov

Hector De La Torre

Dem-50 (916) 319-2050 Assemblymember.DeLaTorre@assembly.ca.gov

Kevin de Leon

Dem-45 (916) 319-2045 Assemblymember.deLeon@assembly.ca.gov

Bill Emmerson

Rep-63 (916) 319-2063 Assemblymember.emmerson@assembly.ca.gov

Ted Gaines

Rep-4 (916) 319-2004 Assemblymember.Gaines@assembly.ca.gov

Isadore Hall III

Dem-52 (916) 319-2052 Assemblymember.Hall@assembly.ca.gov

Mary Hayashi

Dem-18 (916) 319-2018 Assemblymember.Hayashi@assembly.ca.gov

Edward P. Hernandez

Dem-57 (916) 319-2057 Assemblymember.Hernandez@assembly.ca.gov

Bonnie Lowenthal

Dem-54 (916) 319-2054 Assemblymember.Lowenthal@assembly.ca.gov

Pedro Nava

Dem-35 (916) 319-2035 Assemblymember.nava@assembly.ca.gov

V. Manuel Pérez

Dem-80 (916) 319-2080 Assemblymember.Manuel.Perez@assembly.ca.gov

Mary Salas

Dem-79 (916) 319-2079 Assemblymember.Salas@assembly.ca.gov

Audra Strickland

Rep-37 (916) 319-2037 Assemblymember.strickland@assembly.ca.gov

this would be an amazing turn of events, and would begin the trend of state legalization, eventually leading to federal reform. but it all starts with California (or maybe Washington, or Oregon) before it'll move anywhere else.

*LimeLite Racing* · 01-05-2010, 11:55 PM

Rec, med, who cares? FTMFW!!!!!!! Smoke it up!!!!!! Shit's safer than alcohol.... And better for you....

*LimeLite Racing* · 01-05-2010, 11:56 PM

DUI related accidents: Alcohol>Budz

TheWolf · 01-06-2010, 05:54 AM

so what is the "street price" for what "weight"? I'm curious what the "money" factor is.

*lewisfk* · 01-06-2010, 08:22 AM

yes, yes, yes! I pray that we can use it to treat guys with PTSD! I have a few friends drinking themselfs to death, while taking zoloft and prozac!

BTP · 01-06-2010, 09:37 AM

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yes, yes, yes! I pray that we can use it to treat guys with PTSD! I have a few friends drinking themselfs to death, while taking zoloft and prozac!

lmao thats cool dude.

*S14_Kouki* · 01-06-2010, 03:21 PM

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so what is the "street price" for what "weight"? I'm curious what the "money" factor is.

Street prices really depends on where you live. But down here in FL its around 3-4k a pound for dro.

And yes Busteds13 I have seen first hand ppl get 1 pound per plant its not about how big the plants are its about how dense the buds are on the plant. Iv seen 4 plants in a simple walk in closet prob 5x5 feet harvest alittle bit under 4 pound thats around 10-12k street prices, honest truth my friend. And yes you can harvest every month if you get the right cycle down simple layout of how it works. You have a group of plants growing, another group maturing, another group about to bub, another group ready to be harvested and another group of buds drying out. You have one mother plant that you take clones off of so you dont have to start from seeds thats saves you 2-3 months right there. So in the end if you want to do it that way your going to need a space prob the size of a 20x20 room or a small basement. The good thing about doing it that way is you will always have product for you and to sell. But also to do it this way dont think your going to just buy all the stuff and start growing dank ass plants it takes time to get the system down and a good amount of experience.

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LimeLite Racing Itsa Me!! Jimmy!! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Portland, OR. Posts: 1,282 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: LimeLite Racing	Rec, med, who cares? FTMFW!!!!!!! Smoke it up!!!!!! Shit's safer than alcohol.... And better for you.... __________________ Drift.

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20 til 3 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sioux falls SD Age: 22 Posts: 480 Trader Rating: (0)	breckenridge didnt make it? o well, i will give it 3 more years before its medically used in every state, and 5 years before its legal for recreational use

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XnTroubleX It wasnt me occifer Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: louisiana Age: 26 Posts: 257 Trader Rating: (5)	I used to smoke pot daily for years, now I havent smoked in like 6 years nor do I want to, Even though I have no desire to smoke it again, I havent ever understood why it wasn't legal. Ive (like most others) have always referred to the excuse as the government does not have a firm structured way of taxing it yet! When they figure that out then it will become legal, when It does become legal, I would think that there will be very stiff laws against producing it. The government will make it so that you have to buy their over taxed pot!

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lewisfk Premium Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: texas Age: 29 Posts: 269 Trader Rating: (0)	yes, yes, yes! I pray that we can use it to treat guys with PTSD! I have a few friends drinking themselfs to death, while taking zoloft and prozac!