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| Zilvia FREAK! ![]() Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Thousand Oaks-818
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Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews | Would you rather..... ok guys so i dont know what to do maybe someone can help set me straight Its time for me to dump my money into my motor but what sounds like a better idea build the SR i have for $5.5k and its fully built 500whp or should i get a ls1 swap which would be a stock ls1 not built for my drift car Im doubting going SR because i figure a ls1 can be more reliable seeing that its NA and a v8 but am i wrong?? The SR is being fully built by the SR20 Store and I would have to find a shop that does a stock ls1 swap but my friends trying to tell me he can get me one for $6k what do you guys think? thanks for the help if any of that made sense |
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| Zilvia Junkie ![]() | I don't know much about SR or LS motors but like you said, the ls will be a stock motor so a lot more reliable and you can find parts for those motors at autozone/pep boys easily!
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| Zilvia FREAK! ![]() Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Strong Island, NY Age: 29
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Trader Rating: (24) Feedback Score: 24 reviews | Agreed..... Think about your purpose for the build (drifting vs drag vs autocross vs daily) Think about your power goals.....and be realistic (none of this 1200hp shit) Both motors have been proven to be reliable depending on your approach. I will give you my personal choice. I had a fully built SR (I mean fully) and was aiming for a reliable 500hp daily. Then I decided to sell because I see many many 2jz powered cars pushing that kind of power fully stock without much concern for reliability....Toyota over-engineered these engines. I knew I wanted a 2jz over an LS1 because I wanted to stick with a turbo powered car (not that you cant power an LS). So again.....you need to remember that you are not comparing apples to apples when your considering an LS vs an SR. BTW....most of my friends have LS 1 or 2 powered 240sx's and I can honestly say I LOVE the sound of those engines ![]() |
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| Zilvia FREAK! ![]() Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Thousand Oaks-818
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Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews | Quote:
well the purpose of the build for my car would be for drifting thats the only thing i use my s13 for im looking for around 350-450whp Quote:
ya this is true but u can always find SR parts on here in socal pretty easily | ||
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| Zilvia FREAK! ![]() Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Thousand Oaks-818
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Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews | Quote:
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Now if you guys had the choice and this was your 5-7k to spend what would you be doing 1.) a fully built SR 500whp 2.) a LS1 if you can find it in for that price or 3.) a 1jz/2jz or if you guys have any other opinions lmk thanks everyone | ||
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| Zilvia Addict ![]() Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: 310 all day! Age: 32
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Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews | you say this is a "drift car" so basically a race car but you want it to last more or less yet bea the living piss out of it right. well when the LSx falls apart you have to folk out the $ to fix it same with any other dont think about the up front cost you need to think long run etc. plus i dont believe in cross breeding motor/chassis but thats just me. thats rediculious i could build a nasty turbo set up with 15-25% of that
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| Nissanaholic! ![]() Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Alberta, Red Derp Age: 32
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Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews | after spending $9000 on my ka-T project engine that has not been finished, I wish I had gone V8. LS or 302 ford, ...matters not. Its a lot easier to fabricate some mounts and tranny bracket for me then it is to learn how to tune an AEM series 2 with wild cams on a 4 cylinder. Either enjoy the ride learning, or get out and let someone do the work for you.
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| Zilvia FREAK! ![]() Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Thousand Oaks-818
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Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews | Quote:
this is why i was saying the motor would be fully taken care of/built at the SR 20 store so everything goes smooth as possible instead of me doing it and taking forever and running into inssues on the way that i would rather not have to deal with. But lets say you knew what you were doing on your KA-T and knew what you were getting into would you still regret it and go LS or stay KA? | |
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| Zilvia FREAK! ![]() Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Thousand Oaks-818
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Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews | I am no longer stuck on LS being that it will be to exspensive for me right now so now im stuck on either fully built SR or doing something with a 1JZ anyone know how much a full swap would be for a 1J?? thanks |
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| Zilvia Member ![]() Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: South jersey Age: 23
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Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews | It sounds like you have no idea what you're looking for. No one can say "yeah this is how much a 1j swap costs." There are far too many variables to even begin to give you a ball park. Start doing research, figure out your power goals and where you want your powerband to be. You're hopping all over the place. Turbo 4cyl, V8, turbo 6cyl. They all behave completely differently and have weight differences that affect handling. How long have you been drifting the car? An sr with minor mods is more than enough for most non a class guys. |
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| Zilvia FREAK! ![]() Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Thousand Oaks-818
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Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews | Quote:
And usually shops have set prices for stock swaps then swaps with builds also but i was asking whats like the usual cost of a 1jz more or less then 6k is what i was asking really | |
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| Zilvia FREAK! ![]() Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Thousand Oaks-818
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Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews | Quote:
ya i know my friends trying to tell me he can get me it fully swapped in and everythign for 6-7k thats why i said nvm on the LS because i know it wont happen for the funds i have | |
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| Post Whore! ![]() Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: long beach, CA ^_^ Age: 28
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Trader Rating: (28) Feedback Score: 28 reviews | all I wanna say is, you can't go wrong with a built motor done at SR20store. Those dude's know their stuff, so I wouldn't necessarily say that reliability is a factor. I've seen a lot of their customers cars, and unlike a bunch of mom& pop drift shops, sr20store doesn't mickey mouse their work. However, if you're looking for a serious responsive motor, going with a big turbo on a 4 banger vs a n/a v8... you're gonna get a better low end response from that v8.
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| Zilvia Member ![]() | I was in the same boat as you are right now, debating on whether or not building sr or get something else I waited a while then found a rb25 locally for really good price so I got that. |
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| Zilvia Addict ![]() Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: 310 all day! Age: 32
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Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews | Quote:
Plus let's throw a v8 in anything and " ya I got a v8 I'm big and bad" then get their ass handed to them by a 4 banger. Then Again I guess I'm a kid kuz I don't play with v8's huh Just saying "bro"
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| Zilvia Junkie ![]() Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Riverside Age: 26
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Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews | He said sr.... Fanboy there's plenty of swaps worth knowing he's just a fanboy and cool u spent abunch of money on ur cool 4 banger o know bro, don't get socked |
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| I </3 VA ![]() Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Ass Crack of Hamptin Vagina
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Trader Rating: (17) Feedback Score: 17 reviews | Personally, not too impressed with LS1 swaps. Been in one, I prefer turbo engines more. Since you already have your SR, freshen it up with HG, ARP studs, better cams, a lil head work, bigger injectors, zmaf, PFC and a GT2871R. Itll still be cheaper than going LS1 swap.
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| Zilvia Addict ![]() Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: 310 all day! Age: 32
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Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews | Quote:
Good power can be made without spending a lot and I have proven that. I don't even have head work and I'm already knockin on 600 you could keep your Ls And you wouldn't be able to sock no one of you can't keep up Do you even have a LSx? Based on what your saying you don't sound like you have experience with any of it
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