240sx KA-turbo vs. 240sx 2jz swap? - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

I_hatemyFWD · 03-01-2009, 12:40 PM

I am selling my rsx and getting a 240 s13. I want a 2jz cause it's bad ass, sounds sick with the 6cyl and after the tune have around 320. OOOOrrr should I just rebuild the motor and upgrade the turbo etc. Both would be the same amount of money. I NEED OPINIONS!!! Thanks Luke

jr_ss · 03-01-2009, 12:48 PM

Both will not be the same amount of money... Break down the costs of each, not to mention custom fabbing of stuff to fit the 2JZ and you'll find it'll cost much more to swap a 2JZ into the S13... But if you have the means and the funds in this economic hardship have at it.

Take into consideration what you want to do with the car. Having an ass load of power doesn't mean shit when you can't control it. The 2JZ is much heavier than the KA, SR, or RB series engines.

I_hatemyFWD · 03-01-2009, 01:11 PM

Ok well the 2jz swap would be around 8k all together. Or I could buy a 240 probably s14 and take the motor and do as much as I can with 8 grand. That's what I meant by the same price. And yes you are right about not having anything if you can't put it down. Thanks for the tips. LUke

waynehead05 · 03-01-2009, 01:30 PM

What about the suspension? brakes? What about everything else?

*Flicktitty* · 03-01-2009, 02:29 PM

i'm a huge 2jZ guy *building one myself*

with everything (brakes,suspension,rims,tires,swap stuff,motor,mods, there is like 12K into the 2J swap) so you better have alot of cash

and really 320hp would be ok to get out of a KA-t..with a good tubro/tune.

I_hatemyFWD · 03-01-2009, 04:01 PM

That's part of the reason I wanted to do the ka-t. That way I could afford wheels/suspension/brakes. Again thanks for the replies. But I am still obsessed with the JZ! Someday....

I'm still up for pointers.

Thanks LUke

projectRDM · 03-01-2009, 04:15 PM

It's your car. We're not here to hold your hand so make up your own mind.

jr_ss · 03-01-2009, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by projectRDM

It's your car. We're not here to hold your hand so make up your own mind.

QFTW... It really does come down to you and your budget

I_hatemyFWD · 03-01-2009, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by projectRDM

It's your car. We're not here to hold your hand so make up your own mind.

Yes i realize that.. This is a forum for questions and answers.. I'm not a master tech or anything so I was just wanting to hear other peoples opinion and ADVISE. Thanks Luke

I_hatemyFWD · 03-01-2009, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jr_ss

QFTW... It really does come down to you and your budget

yes I think I'm going for the ka-t. One question. Is there a good rebuild kit somewhere? I found this one on Ebay haha. Let me know

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/93-97...ht_4392wt_1198

PLEASE NO NEGATIVE COMMENTS

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waynehead05 · 03-02-2009, 02:06 AM

^ Built Internal KA24DE Rebuild Kit

steve shadows · 03-02-2009, 02:54 AM

CA18 with 2.3. liter stroker/over bore kit + GT35R and methanol

rev it to 9500 with stock valve train and make over 600 whp with a SUPER LIGHT and well balanced chassis with most of the weight pushed up againt the firewall and behind the front wheel / cross memeber centerline.

DONE

Ali 556 · 03-02-2009, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jr_ss

The 2JZ is much heavier than RB series engines.

Actually NO,

A Stock 2JZ with stock twins,intake weight less than An Stock Rb25det....i had both on the scale and the 2jz is ligther by 8kg ~16lbs

And lets not talk about the crappiest of them all, The over rated, overpriced , the Crapy Rb26....

damn thing is HEAVY.....

op,

ka-T will do fine cfor a guy on budget.....ever consdierd LSx swap....?

rex2sx · 03-02-2009, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ali 556

ever consdierd LSx swap....?

Best decision yet

jspeedm · 03-02-2009, 03:04 PM

screw it. just go for ls1 v8 and call it a day. it's only 50lbs more than the kade. and it sits lower and further back in the car.

but seriously, why don't you work on getting the car and making sure it, and you, can handle the power first(i.e. suspension, wheels, tires, drivetrain, etc.) then with whatever you have left, more power.

*Flicktitty* · 03-02-2009, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ali 556

Actually NO,

A Stock 2JZ with stock twins,intake weight less than An Stock Rb25det....i had both on the scale and the 2jz is ligther by 8kg ~16lbs

huh i never knew that, Good post.

do you remember how much the 2JZ weighed?

redsx13 · 03-02-2009, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by I_hatemyFWD

I am selling my rsx and getting a 240 s13. I want a 2jz cause it's bad ass

its bad ass alright

*Flicktitty* · 03-02-2009, 05:11 PM

man that pic is old as dirt.

soon2bs13 · 03-02-2009, 05:11 PM

the cost of the KA-T vs. 2JZ are nowhere near the same amount of money.

maybe the KA-T should be your decision.

Chad4061 · 03-05-2009, 04:27 PM

2jz would be nice but i personally would get the s14 and turbo the ka...its a solid motor when built well and can put out some good numbers

*jserman* · 03-05-2009, 05:10 PM

i have a buddy selling a 97 s14 with tons of suspension mods with a 2J swap, single turbo.. BLAH BLAH..

if you interested PM me I think it wasnt like 17K for it

kmn5 · 05-13-2009, 11:30 PM

Any here ever drive a 2jz 240?

how does it handle compared to one with a SR20DET swap?

*alzahakar* · 05-14-2009, 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmn5

Any here ever drive a 2jz 240?

how does it handle compared to one with a SR20DET swap?

That's a very vague question. There's no possible way to give a specific answer to that question. With properly executed and targeted weight reduction and a good mount kit, you can offset the weight differences of swaps. A fully prepped and set up suspension can further help to tune out any ill-handling that may be the byproduct of a heavier engine. Further, it's a moot point asking a question like this as you would have to be very experienced with your setup and then try another setup to understand the differences yourself.

WhiteDevilZ · 05-14-2009, 11:22 PM

Why would you swap a 2jz in for only 320hp. If you are going to swap engines at least use SOME of its potential.

dynamicck · 05-15-2009, 05:50 AM

^^ exactly what I was thinking. 2jz for 320 hp is a waste!

ChrisWantsBoost · 05-15-2009, 06:52 AM

For 300-350 horsepower, building the KA would be the best choice. It would be significantly cheaper than swapping a 2JZ.

Depending on where you buy it, and what you're looking for, the 2JZ can cost anywhere from 6-7 thousand for just the engine. With the same amount of cash, you could fund 90% of your KA build: suspension, brakes, cam, turbo kit, engine rebuild kit..ETC.

If you're really set on a "badass" swap, I would suggest an SR20. They're cheaper to swap ($2-4,000 for engine), and achieves 300 horsepower with a few more pounds of boost than stock.

rex2sx · 05-15-2009, 07:07 AM

Forget Srs..ill just a build a DOHC KA unless i get some deal worth getting the motor.

Zerolift Autolab · 05-15-2009, 10:46 AM

If you do decide to go with the JZ motor - I have a mount set available for it.
Please let me know or check out > http://zilvia.net/f/advertiser-speci...s-chassis.html

Thanks,
Robert

dj12 · 05-19-2009, 12:39 AM

seriously build a ca. sr's are over rated. like one off the above post states they r pretty stout and are cheap. ive owned a sr, and ka-t aswell as driven a ca with the same suspension blah blah setup as me with the ka-t. the ca was alot more fun to drive and the sr was at tne bottom. but thats just my .02 cents. good luck with ur choice.

03-01-2009, 12:40 PM	#1
I_hatemyFWD Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: FL Age: 22 Posts: 15 Trader Rating: (0)	240sx KA-turbo vs. 240sx 2jz swap? I am selling my rsx and getting a 240 s13. I want a 2jz cause it's bad ass, sounds sick with the 6cyl and after the tune have around 320. OOOOrrr should I just rebuild the motor and upgrade the turbo etc. Both would be the same amount of money. I NEED OPINIONS!!! Thanks Luke

03-01-2009, 12:48 PM	#2
jr_ss Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Venice, Fl Posts: 642 Trader Rating: (10)	Both will not be the same amount of money... Break down the costs of each, not to mention custom fabbing of stuff to fit the 2JZ and you'll find it'll cost much more to swap a 2JZ into the S13... But if you have the means and the funds in this economic hardship have at it. Take into consideration what you want to do with the car. Having an ass load of power doesn't mean shit when you can't control it. The 2JZ is much heavier than the KA, SR, or RB series engines. __________________ Built 95' S14....

03-01-2009, 01:30 PM	#4
waynehead05 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2005 Location: Dallas Age: 23 Posts: 465 Trader Rating: (1)	What about the suspension? brakes? What about everything else? __________________ Who in their right mind would want to lead this nation of Me-First Right-Now Do Nothings??

03-01-2009, 02:29 PM	#5
Flicktitty I <3 LIZMO Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Wisconsin.. Age: 22 Posts: 1,548 Trader Rating: (5)	i'm a huge 2jZ guy building one myself with everything (brakes,suspension,rims,tires,swap stuff,motor,mods, there is like 12K into the 2J swap) so you better have alot of cash and really 320hp would be ok to get out of a KA-t..with a good tubro/tune. __________________ www.midwest240sx.com www.myJZswap.com

03-01-2009, 04:15 PM	#7
projectRDM Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta Age: 35 Posts: 13,031 Trader Rating: (12)	It's your car. We're not here to hold your hand so make up your own mind. __________________ FORMERLY R240NA Learn what's really going on and protect your assets now before they're gone forever: www.paypalsucks.com

03-01-2009, 01:11 PM	#3
I_hatemyFWD Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: FL Age: 22 Posts: 15 Trader Rating: (0)	Ok well the 2jz swap would be around 8k all together. Or I could buy a 240 probably s14 and take the motor and do as much as I can with 8 grand. That's what I meant by the same price. And yes you are right about not having anything if you can't put it down. Thanks for the tips. LUke

03-01-2009, 04:01 PM	#6
I_hatemyFWD Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: FL Age: 22 Posts: 15 Trader Rating: (0)	That's part of the reason I wanted to do the ka-t. That way I could afford wheels/suspension/brakes. Again thanks for the replies. But I am still obsessed with the JZ! Someday.... I'm still up for pointers. Thanks LUke

03-02-2009, 02:06 AM	#11
waynehead05 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2005 Location: Dallas Age: 23 Posts: 465 Trader Rating: (1)	^ Built Internal KA24DE Rebuild Kit __________________ Who in their right mind would want to lead this nation of Me-First Right-Now Do Nothings??

03-02-2009, 02:54 AM	#12
steve shadows In time-out for misbehaving. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: LA and OC Posts: 7,409 Trader Rating: (3)	CA18 with 2.3. liter stroker/over bore kit + GT35R and methanol rev it to 9500 with stock valve train and make over 600 whp with a SUPER LIGHT and well balanced chassis with most of the weight pushed up againt the firewall and behind the front wheel / cross memeber centerline. DONE

03-02-2009, 03:04 PM	#15
jspeedm Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SoCal 562 Age: 31 Posts: 1,031 Trader Rating: (18)	screw it. just go for ls1 v8 and call it a day. it's only 50lbs more than the kade. and it sits lower and further back in the car. but seriously, why don't you work on getting the car and making sure it, and you, can handle the power first(i.e. suspension, wheels, tires, drivetrain, etc.) then with whatever you have left, more power. __________________

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03-02-2009, 05:11 PM	#18
Flicktitty I <3 LIZMO Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Wisconsin.. Age: 22 Posts: 1,548 Trader Rating: (5)	man that pic is old as dirt. __________________ www.midwest240sx.com www.myJZswap.com

03-02-2009, 05:11 PM	#19
soon2bs13 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: TN Posts: 459 Trader Rating: (1)	the cost of the KA-T vs. 2JZ are nowhere near the same amount of money. maybe the KA-T should be your decision. __________________ neg repping is cool!!

03-05-2009, 04:27 PM	#20
Chad4061 Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Pleasant View,Tn Age: 21 Posts: 157 Trader Rating: (0)	2jz would be nice but i personally would get the s14 and turbo the ka...its a solid motor when built well and can put out some good numbers

03-05-2009, 05:10 PM	#21
jserman Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Boise Posts: 136 Trader Rating: (5) Rides Gallery: jserman	i have a buddy selling a 97 s14 with tons of suspension mods with a 2J swap, single turbo.. BLAH BLAH.. if you interested PM me I think it wasnt like 17K for it

05-13-2009, 11:30 PM	#22
kmn5 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 6 Trader Rating: (0)	Any here ever drive a 2jz 240? how does it handle compared to one with a SR20DET swap?

05-14-2009, 11:22 PM	#24
WhiteDevilZ Join Date: May 2009 Location: wilson nc Age: 27 Posts: 6 Trader Rating: (0)	Why would you swap a 2jz in for only 320hp. If you are going to swap engines at least use SOME of its potential.

05-15-2009, 05:50 AM	#25
dynamicck Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: HB Posts: 340 Trader Rating: (1)	^^ exactly what I was thinking. 2jz for 320 hp is a waste!

05-15-2009, 06:52 AM	#26
ChrisWantsBoost Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: FL Posts: 2 Trader Rating: (0)	For 300-350 horsepower, building the KA would be the best choice. It would be significantly cheaper than swapping a 2JZ. Depending on where you buy it, and what you're looking for, the 2JZ can cost anywhere from 6-7 thousand for just the engine. With the same amount of cash, you could fund 90% of your KA build: suspension, brakes, cam, turbo kit, engine rebuild kit..ETC. If you're really set on a "badass" swap, I would suggest an SR20. They're cheaper to swap ($2-4,000 for engine), and achieves 300 horsepower with a few more pounds of boost than stock.

05-15-2009, 07:07 AM	#27
rex2sx Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: pennsylvania Age: 18 Posts: 109 Trader Rating: (0)	Forget Srs..ill just a build a DOHC KA unless i get some deal worth getting the motor.

05-15-2009, 10:46 AM	#28
Zerolift Autolab Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Fairfield, OH 45014 Age: 27 Posts: 823 Trader Rating: (0)	If you do decide to go with the JZ motor - I have a mount set available for it. Please let me know or check out > http://zilvia.net/f/advertiser-speci...s-chassis.html Thanks, Robert __________________ http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/g.../topbanner.jpg DIRECT DEALER with SSR Wheels !!! Contact if Interested !!! www.ssr-wheels.com Price Matching ! If you find a better price, Let me know, I will do everything i can to match or Beat it ! Contact: AIM - ZLR0bert or Robert@zeroliftautolab.com

05-19-2009, 12:39 AM	#29
dj12 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: idaho Posts: 3 Trader Rating: (0)	seriously build a ca. sr's are over rated. like one off the above post states they r pretty stout and are cheap. ive owned a sr, and ka-t aswell as driven a ca with the same suspension blah blah setup as me with the ka-t. the ca was alot more fun to drive and the sr was at tne bottom. but thats just my .02 cents. good luck with ur choice.

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