Driving on Open Diff VS. 2 Way L.S.D in the snow - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

CrispMofo · 12-10-2003, 02:08 PM

i get shiet for traction when drivin in the snow on my OPEN DIFF.

how much better or if better will a 2-way KAaz LSD help me when

it snows like crazy?

Dousan_PG · 12-10-2003, 02:10 PM

i wouldnt use a 2 way in the snow, personally

in the rain its bad enough

it pushes, it locks up fast and it is easy to spin tires

i would use a VLSD in the snow, but that's just me.......

RBS14 · 12-10-2003, 02:24 PM

^^^^^^^

i definately second that.

a 2-way equipped car is very ass happy in the rain, i can't imagine what it'd be like in the snow!!

so basically we're saying 2-ways and snow DON'T mix.

lbcklik1486 · 12-10-2003, 02:31 PM

Exactly how fast does it lock up? Will it lock up under normal, and even gentle driving in the snow?

Dousan_PG · 12-10-2003, 02:39 PM

hmm
mine locks up SUPER fast.

in the rain its basically full lock all day

hahahahahaha

nokeone · 12-10-2003, 03:00 PM

yup mine too...locks at any and all speeds...anytime i turn i have to be aware of how much gas i am giving it or the the back end will swing out..fun yes, but not for the inexperienced..

andrave · 12-10-2003, 04:18 PM

correct me if I'm wrong, since I don't use a clutch type LSD, but can't you adjust the LSD by removing clutch packs or something to make engagement a little "softer?"

Dousan_PG · 12-10-2003, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by andrave
correct me if I'm wrong, since I don't use a clutch type LSD, but can't you adjust the LSD by removing clutch packs or something to make engagement a little "softer?"

yes but that requires removal of the lsd and disassembling it (lots of work)

my nismo is by removing a axle and changing torque.

either way, its a hour - 4 or so hours of work.

it will still engage VERY fast though, and basically be at full lock all day in the rain/snow

tchenku · 12-10-2003, 04:26 PM

im a north carolinian and all but...

i would think your best bet is snow tires

CrispMofo · 12-10-2003, 04:58 PM

I'll need a setup like the one in dousan's sig

TurDz · 12-10-2003, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dousan36
hmm
mine locks up SUPER fast.

in the rain its basically full lock all day

hahahahahaha

wow...i'd really like that

mbmbmb23 · 12-10-2003, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tchenku
im a north carolinian and all but...

i would think your best bet is snow tires

Where in NC are you at?

I tend to agree....a nice set of snow friendly tires goes a long way....not only will it help in the snowy corners, but it will help you grab traction when braking (especially if you dont have ABS).

-m

tchenku · 12-10-2003, 07:38 PM

^morganton (home) and raleigh (school). go hit up CarolinaNissans sometime

but yeah.. RWD, FWD, AWD.. doesnt matter what you have, you'll be stuck spinning all your drive wheels at some point (i.e. SUVs, 4x4's slidin' around and falling into ditches). Snow tires is the way to go...

twitchy · 12-10-2003, 08:54 PM

my factory vlsd is good in the snow compared to cars with open diffs

i saw a truck beside me, one tire on ice one on bare pavement. The one on ice spun and spun and the other one stayed planted and he went nowhere. My car in the same situation will spin the one on ice once or twice and then it engages the other side.

still lousy in the snow takin off tho

andrave · 12-11-2003, 01:40 PM

I second snow or at least snow friendly tires.
I only have an open diff right now, but I bought fresh mud and snow rated BFG touring TA's for winter since they are all seasons and I didn't have a lot of cash, and I'm been surprised at their traction in snow.
if you get a lot of ice or snow and have to drive on it, a set of blizzacks is a good investment.

RBS14 · 12-11-2003, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by twitchy
my factory vlsd is good in the snow compared to cars with open diffs

You have a factory VLSD?!?

haha jk........... couldn't resist.

*FRpilot* · 12-11-2003, 02:29 PM

i dont get it. the handling package came w/ factory vlsd, hicas, and abs.

andrave · 12-11-2003, 07:20 PM

I think it might have something to do with some VLSD stickers a while ago.

lbcklik1486 · 12-11-2003, 08:29 PM

I've have a spec V, and with the helical lsd, it didnt seem to break traction excessively. Now I realize that the 240 is rwd, but with a gear type, such as a quaife lsd, it would be easier to maintain stability as opposed to a clutch type with harsher engagement correct?

twitchy · 12-11-2003, 09:23 PM

i have abs, no hicas and vlsd

nightwalker · 12-12-2003, 01:52 AM

oh man, I was driving from Sacramento to Modesto (1 hour drive) and about five minutes after getting on the highway, it started to pour like crazy. I had been sliding around and didn't check the wear on my rear tires. All of a sudden my car starts shimming side to side. I was driving the car at an angle most of the time, and it was scarier than fucK! I have a JDM vlsd, and this thing is so right side biased, but when it did kick in, the car would switch to the left almost instantly. I can't imagine how hard it would be to drive a 2 way in the rain!:hammer:

019 · 12-12-2003, 09:56 AM

my suggestion, as has been suggested earlier in this thread, would be to get yourself a set of snow tires for the rear. i run those and have never had a problem getting stuck. the snow tires will definitely get you all that traction you need. i would think an diff would help if you get stuck, but i've done fine on open diff + snow tires.

Steeles · 12-12-2003, 10:03 AM

fellow north carolinian here, nismo clutch type LSD, and SR. let me tell you... it sucks. especially since all we get is ice.. remember the big storm last year? yeah that blew. took 20 minutes of prayer countersteering and throttle manipulation to bet up the hill just to leave the damn office. another 3 hours for a 20 mile trip to get home. I was not amused. Moms better not plan on going anywhere if the weather turns like that again this year cause Im jacking the CRV

12-10-2003, 02:08 PM	#1
CrispMofo Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Boston, MA Age: 31 Posts: 138 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Driving on Open Diff VS. 2 Way L.S.D in the snow i get shiet for traction when drivin in the snow on my OPEN DIFF. how much better or if better will a 2-way KAaz LSD help me when it snows like crazy?

12-10-2003, 02:10 PM	#2
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 34 Posts: 16,540 Trader Rating: (20) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 20 reviews	i wouldnt use a 2 way in the snow, personally in the rain its bad enough it pushes, it locks up fast and it is easy to spin tires i would use a VLSD in the snow, but that's just me....... __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

12-10-2003, 02:24 PM	#3
RBS14 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Santa Cruz/San Diego Posts: 2,271 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^^^^^^^ i definately second that. a 2-way equipped car is very ass happy in the rain, i can't imagine what it'd be like in the snow!! so basically we're saying 2-ways and snow DON'T mix. __________________

12-10-2003, 02:31 PM	#4
lbcklik1486 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Western Springs, Illinois Posts: 303 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Exactly how fast does it lock up? Will it lock up under normal, and even gentle driving in the snow? __________________ Your car has 4 more liters, and it's unfair to race because I have a turbo huh?

12-10-2003, 02:39 PM	#5
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 34 Posts: 16,540 Trader Rating: (20) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 20 reviews	hmm mine locks up SUPER fast. in the rain its basically full lock all day hahahahahaha __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

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12-10-2003, 03:00 PM	#6
nokeone on strike three. Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Santa Cruz, California Age: 34 Posts: 3,289 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yup mine too...locks at any and all speeds...anytime i turn i have to be aware of how much gas i am giving it or the the back end will swing out..fun yes, but not for the inexperienced.. __________________ panda; rockin your socks from the Bay to LA to SD, yay! Pink GodziRa

12-10-2003, 04:18 PM	#7
andrave BANNED Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Burton WV Posts: 2,350 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	correct me if I'm wrong, since I don't use a clutch type LSD, but can't you adjust the LSD by removing clutch packs or something to make engagement a little "softer?"

12-10-2003, 04:26 PM	#9
tchenku Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NC Posts: 227 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	im a north carolinian and all but... i would think your best bet is snow tires

12-10-2003, 04:58 PM	#10
CrispMofo Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Boston, MA Age: 31 Posts: 138 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'll need a setup like the one in dousan's sig

12-10-2003, 07:38 PM	#13
tchenku Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NC Posts: 227 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^morganton (home) and raleigh (school). go hit up CarolinaNissans sometime but yeah.. RWD, FWD, AWD.. doesnt matter what you have, you'll be stuck spinning all your drive wheels at some point (i.e. SUVs, 4x4's slidin' around and falling into ditches). Snow tires is the way to go...

12-10-2003, 08:54 PM	#14
twitchy Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ontario Posts: 1,579 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	my factory vlsd is good in the snow compared to cars with open diffs i saw a truck beside me, one tire on ice one on bare pavement. The one on ice spun and spun and the other one stayed planted and he went nowhere. My car in the same situation will spin the one on ice once or twice and then it engages the other side. still lousy in the snow takin off tho __________________ Who the hell needs a sig anyhow

12-11-2003, 01:40 PM	#15
andrave BANNED Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Burton WV Posts: 2,350 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I second snow or at least snow friendly tires. I only have an open diff right now, but I bought fresh mud and snow rated BFG touring TA's for winter since they are all seasons and I didn't have a lot of cash, and I'm been surprised at their traction in snow. if you get a lot of ice or snow and have to drive on it, a set of blizzacks is a good investment.

12-11-2003, 02:29 PM	#17
FRpilot Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fremont, CA Posts: 4,503 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	i dont get it. the handling package came w/ factory vlsd, hicas, and abs. __________________

12-11-2003, 07:20 PM	#18
andrave BANNED Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Burton WV Posts: 2,350 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I think it might have something to do with some VLSD stickers a while ago.

12-11-2003, 08:29 PM	#19
lbcklik1486 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Western Springs, Illinois Posts: 303 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I've have a spec V, and with the helical lsd, it didnt seem to break traction excessively. Now I realize that the 240 is rwd, but with a gear type, such as a quaife lsd, it would be easier to maintain stability as opposed to a clutch type with harsher engagement correct? __________________ Your car has 4 more liters, and it's unfair to race because I have a turbo huh?

12-11-2003, 09:23 PM	#20
twitchy Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ontario Posts: 1,579 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i have abs, no hicas and vlsd __________________ Who the hell needs a sig anyhow

12-12-2003, 01:52 AM	#21
nightwalker Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bay area Age: 34 Posts: 2,192 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	oh man, I was driving from Sacramento to Modesto (1 hour drive) and about five minutes after getting on the highway, it started to pour like crazy. I had been sliding around and didn't check the wear on my rear tires. All of a sudden my car starts shimming side to side. I was driving the car at an angle most of the time, and it was scarier than fucK! I have a JDM vlsd, and this thing is so right side biased, but when it did kick in, the car would switch to the left almost instantly. I can't imagine how hard it would be to drive a 2 way in the rain!:hammer: __________________ In life, we often cast the line of hope fishing for the best possible opportunity. Sometimes with enough effort, the things we catch are nothing short of amazing.

12-12-2003, 09:56 AM	#22
019 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: blacksburg, va Posts: 697 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	my suggestion, as has been suggested earlier in this thread, would be to get yourself a set of snow tires for the rear. i run those and have never had a problem getting stuck. the snow tires will definitely get you all that traction you need. i would think an diff would help if you get stuck, but i've done fine on open diff + snow tires. __________________ Red '96 240sx www.streetdynamics.com

12-12-2003, 10:03 AM	#23
Steeles Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: 7th layer of hell, special pit of anger Age: 37 Posts: 3,785 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	fellow north carolinian here, nismo clutch type LSD, and SR. let me tell you... it sucks. especially since all we get is ice.. remember the big storm last year? yeah that blew. took 20 minutes of prayer countersteering and throttle manipulation to bet up the hill just to leave the damn office. another 3 hours for a 20 mile trip to get home. I was not amused. Moms better not plan on going anywhere if the weather turns like that again this year cause Im jacking the CRV __________________ Keeping it Godzira bishes. So I murdered another turbo

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