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AngryPanda · 08-11-2009, 03:43 PM

Like the title states, gauging interest for 180sx kouki lip replicas. The lips will be made out of fiberglass and price will range from 300-400. This will be a high quality replica. We can also offer combo kits with a OEM kouki bumper for around 500. painted combos for 850-900. Depending on interest generated.

***CrimsonRockett*** · 08-11-2009, 03:50 PM

I brought this to David's attention because I know how much you guys wanted better quality replicas made(not to mention I remember how much trouble you guys went to with that company dealing with their delays and horrible customer service).

This replica won't be some shitty, stupid thin fiberglass crap.

Properly made, reinforced lips.

If there's enough interest, im positive we can even reproduce the GT style lip.

ZenkiKid · 08-11-2009, 04:27 PM

Doesnt Modiride sell kouki lip replicas for like 175?

*Landers* · 08-11-2009, 04:29 PM

of course there will be an interest...

but people be stingy

*Brian* · 08-11-2009, 04:29 PM

300-400 is WAY too expensive (in my opinion).

jimmytango00 · 08-11-2009, 04:35 PM

^ isn't that what the originals cost?

I guess since they are not in production anymore it makes sense since the OEM ones will be way more expensive now.

*silviaguy240* · 08-11-2009, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZenkiKid

Doesnt Modiride sell kouki lip replicas for like 175?

2 people bought lips from them. shitty ass customer service, delayed shippment. one person has a broken lip, but ups claims improperly packaged, and store wont refund or replace.

i think 250 would be a good price only because for chuki bumper the xenon urethane lip is ~300, yes i know different product and that a larger company can produce urethane for cheaper but i dont see people paying 300 or upwards on a fiberglass lip, when a quality whole bumper costs that much.

***CrimsonRockett*** · 08-11-2009, 05:06 PM

Price isn't set in stone guys.

Trying to get a ballpark figure as to how much REAL interest there is to have a great quality replica made at a reasonable cost to you guys(and us of course).

We can even offer optional splitters and canards.

Difference between our replica and Modirides knock off is that ours will fit 100% as it should, properly laid fiberglass, and none of that bullshit wavy finish. Smooth the way it should be.

*Brian* · 08-11-2009, 05:09 PM

time for my thoughts.

You guys are looking to start t his up in a REALLY shitty time.
It COULD work, but in my opinion, the odds are against you.

You're also dealing with a really cheap audience. I think $300 is too much for a full BUMPER to most of them, so keep that in mind.

There are only so many people with the TYPE X bumper, so that limits your potential numbers as well.

I think a lot of the "OEM is best" guys wouldn't touch a FRP part.

If you make it, I wish best of luck and I would like you guys to make money.

FRpilot · 08-11-2009, 05:14 PM

sounds good except for the fact that it is fiberglass. can you do it for the same price, but substitute urethane instead.

i think the mold might be expensive initially, but after that you are just injecting urethane in it and cost less in the long run, since you don't have to hand lay fiberglass in the future, which is labor intensive.

*ManoNegra* · 08-11-2009, 05:17 PM

urethane, ~$250ish and I'm in

*Brian* · 08-11-2009, 05:19 PM

lol, urethane machines are pretty expensive.

We have one here.
It was about $100,000 years ago when we got it.

FRpilot · 08-11-2009, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian

lol, urethane machines are pretty expensive.

We have one here.
It was about $100,000 years ago when we got it.

since you have the machine there, you make them in urethane, offer it for $250-300, and i'm sure you'll sell many!!

ZX88 · 08-11-2009, 05:23 PM

I got a modiride lip in for a car. It took months to get. And the customer service is a joke. I'll see how the lip fits

*Brian* · 08-11-2009, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRpilot

since you have the machine there, you make them in urethane, offer it for $250-300, and i'm sure you'll sell many!!

thank you but no thank you.

cole d · 08-11-2009, 05:27 PM

Urethane and OEM fitment, $250 and I'm in.

UsJdmTUner · 08-11-2009, 05:27 PM

why not make them urethane? im tired of fiberglass.. they still crack with reinforcements...
URETHANE=$250 fair price... lets get this

***CrimsonRockett*** · 08-11-2009, 05:38 PM

Urethane isn't cheap. If anything, making them Urethane would bring up the cost significantly compared to fiberglass.

Urethane is 100% out of the question.

If Urethane parts were that simple to make, every company out there making replicas or pushing out their own product would turn to urethane.

Matej · 08-11-2009, 05:40 PM

The company my dad works for could replicate the lip, out of any material desired.

If anyone is interested, try contacting them:
http://www.rdleverage.com

*JaeTea* · 08-11-2009, 05:48 PM

The modiride one is sooooo flimsy its scarey. Like paper mache type shit.

First drift event with this thing on and it will be gone.

BTW, worst customer service ever.

*Brian* · 08-11-2009, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matej

the company my dad works for could replicate the lip, out of any material desired.

If anyone is interested, try contacting them:
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i want steel. Steel is preferred.

s0apgun · 08-11-2009, 05:52 PM

this is bleh

im not going to pay 3-400 for a fiberglass replica of my oem lip that i paid 300 for which was pretty much new

***CrimsonRockett*** · 08-11-2009, 05:54 PM

Titanium.

Make it happen.

turbo_dreams · 08-11-2009, 05:54 PM

3-400 For a fiberglass lip? I rather deal w/ "modrides" shitty service and half the price tag of a possible $300 lip. As far as fitment, if it's made by fiberglass, i'm sure i can add fiberglass/trim it to make fit myself. Not hating, just a consumer's insight. Although urethane is out of the question, it'd be a whole 'nother story as far as me paying 300 for it.

FRpilot · 08-11-2009, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian

i want steel. Steel is preferred.

you know.. about a year ago, i thought, what if they made wide quarter panels/fenders out of steel instead of fiberglass. then you can just weld them on w/o the whole rivets/filler business. that would be awesome, but no one makes wide ventless front and rear fenders in steel.

now they even make wide vented quarter panels for the rears in fiberglass

Quote:

Originally Posted by JaeTea

The modiride one is sooooo flimsy its scarey. Like paper mache type shit.

that's exactly what fiberglass is. LOL

you lay fiber glass mat onto a mold, and then use the fiberglass hardener resin thing to hold the shape. that's how you get a fiberglass product.

no different to what we use to do in elementary school when we laid paper mache onto a balloon and let it dry to take the shape and pop the balloon inside.

Taniguchi_Is_#1 · 08-11-2009, 06:01 PM

oem kouki bumper + lip for $500? i would consider it as a package, but it is a bit expensive for just the lip. especially after shipping..... it would suck.

*adam s* · 08-11-2009, 06:02 PM

I plan on going kouki, but the possibility of not finding a lip scared me away from it.

I'd be more than happy to pay up to $300 for a lip, but anymore than that and I'll go back to a kit.

AngryPanda · 08-11-2009, 06:06 PM

Again, we are simply just throwing up numbers. First thing that has already been pointed out is if it were priced in the $250-$300 area, there would be a lot more interest.

Shipping isn't an issue. It would cost no more than $50 to ship to the lower 48 states.

No rape fees.

Quote:

Originally Posted by turbo_dreams

3-400 For a fiberglass lip? I rather deal w/ "modrides" shitty service and half the price tag of a possible $300 lip. As far as fitment, if it's made by fiberglass, i'm sure i can add fiberglass/trim it to make fit myself. Not hating, just a consumer's insight. Although urethane is out of the question, it'd be a whole 'nother story as far as me paying 300 for it.

That's the thing though. Not everybody is able to modify poorly made lips. I for one would rather pay a few bucks more for a high quality replica than spend several hours trying to make a shitty knock off fit half way decent.

s0apgun · 08-11-2009, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian

You're also dealing with a really cheap audience. I think $300 is too much for a full BUMPER to most of them, so keep that in mind.

There are only so many people with the TYPE X bumper, so that limits your potential numbers as well.

I think a lot of the "OEM is best" guys wouldn't touch a FRP part.

also.. this.

there is only so many people with it and those who do have it want the oem one

everyone else talks a lot about how they WOULD go kouki front if there was a lip

but that is purely talk

*JaeTea* · 08-11-2009, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRpilot

that's exactly what fiberglass is. LOL

I know..I'm was saying compared to urethane.

This lip is the first fiberglass part I've bought and for a lip I'm not sure if fiberglass is the way to go..unless you're gonna charge people like $100 for it.

08-11-2009, 03:50 PM	#2
*CrimsonRockett* We're watching you. Join Date: May 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 6,998 Trader Rating: (73) Rides Gallery: CrimsonRockett	I brought this to David's attention because I know how much you guys wanted better quality replicas made(not to mention I remember how much trouble you guys went to with that company dealing with their delays and horrible customer service). This replica won't be some shitty, stupid thin fiberglass crap. Properly made, reinforced lips. If there's enough interest, im positive we can even reproduce the GT style lip. __________________ -Angry Panda Fabrication - Fixing iDesigns shitty work since 2008. CrimsonRockett@blogspot Need body work/paint? PM me.

08-11-2009, 04:29 PM	#4
Landers Premium Shitbag Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: W. Mass. Age: 22 Posts: 381 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Landers	of course there will be an interest... but people be stingy __________________ www.D-faction.com

08-11-2009, 04:29 PM	#5
Brian Been in this since Jan. 2003 Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: long beach california Age: 25 Posts: 10,409 Trader Rating: (37) Rides Gallery: Brian	300-400 is WAY too expensive (in my opinion). __________________ http://bhworld.wordpress.com/ I deal WEDS Wheels if you want them....

08-11-2009, 04:35 PM	#6
jimmytango00 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Age: 25 Posts: 1,683 Trader Rating: (10)	^ isn't that what the originals cost? I guess since they are not in production anymore it makes sense since the OEM ones will be way more expensive now. __________________ "I also saw someone had bottled air from hurricane katrina for sale on ebay..."

08-11-2009, 05:06 PM	#8
*CrimsonRockett* We're watching you. Join Date: May 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 6,998 Trader Rating: (73) Rides Gallery: CrimsonRockett	Price isn't set in stone guys. Trying to get a ballpark figure as to how much REAL interest there is to have a great quality replica made at a reasonable cost to you guys(and us of course). We can even offer optional splitters and canards. Difference between our replica and Modirides knock off is that ours will fit 100% as it should, properly laid fiberglass, and none of that bullshit wavy finish. Smooth the way it should be. __________________ -Angry Panda Fabrication - Fixing iDesigns shitty work since 2008. CrimsonRockett@blogspot Need body work/paint? PM me.

08-11-2009, 03:43 PM	#1
AngryPanda Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Anaheim Age: 30 Posts: 42 Trader Rating: (0)	Gauging interest: 180sx kouki lip replica Like the title states, gauging interest for 180sx kouki lip replicas. The lips will be made out of fiberglass and price will range from 300-400. This will be a high quality replica. We can also offer combo kits with a OEM kouki bumper for around 500. painted combos for 850-900. Depending on interest generated. __________________ We do "Awesome"

08-11-2009, 04:27 PM	#3
ZenkiKid Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 985 Trader Rating: (4)	Doesnt Modiride sell kouki lip replicas for like 175?

08-11-2009, 05:09 PM	#9
Brian Been in this since Jan. 2003 Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: long beach california Age: 25 Posts: 10,409 Trader Rating: (37) Rides Gallery: Brian	time for my thoughts. You guys are looking to start t his up in a REALLY shitty time. It COULD work, but in my opinion, the odds are against you. You're also dealing with a really cheap audience. I think $300 is too much for a full BUMPER to most of them, so keep that in mind. There are only so many people with the TYPE X bumper, so that limits your potential numbers as well. I think a lot of the "OEM is best" guys wouldn't touch a FRP part. If you make it, I wish best of luck and I would like you guys to make money. __________________ http://bhworld.wordpress.com/ I deal WEDS Wheels if you want them....

08-11-2009, 05:14 PM	#10
FRpilot Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Fremont, CA Posts: 3,098 Trader Rating: (3)	sounds good except for the fact that it is fiberglass. can you do it for the same price, but substitute urethane instead. i think the mold might be expensive initially, but after that you are just injecting urethane in it and cost less in the long run, since you don't have to hand lay fiberglass in the future, which is labor intensive. __________________ i wanna be real chinese again

08-11-2009, 05:17 PM	#11
ManoNegra Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: SoCali Posts: 4,712 Trader Rating: (27)	urethane, ~$250ish and I'm in __________________ S-Chassis/Z32 Rear Upright Spherical Bearing Group Buy

08-11-2009, 05:19 PM	#12
Brian Been in this since Jan. 2003 Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: long beach california Age: 25 Posts: 10,409 Trader Rating: (37) Rides Gallery: Brian	lol, urethane machines are pretty expensive. We have one here. It was about $100,000 years ago when we got it. __________________ http://bhworld.wordpress.com/ I deal WEDS Wheels if you want them....

08-11-2009, 05:23 PM	#14
ZX88 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: new jersey Age: 21 Posts: 1,632 Trader Rating: (5)	I got a modiride lip in for a car. It took months to get. And the customer service is a joke. I'll see how the lip fits __________________ destruction mode 1

08-11-2009, 05:27 PM	#16
cole d Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Tejas Age: 1 Posts: 40 Trader Rating: (0)	Urethane and OEM fitment, $250 and I'm in.

08-11-2009, 05:27 PM	#17
UsJdmTUner Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 215 Trader Rating: (1)	why not make them urethane? im tired of fiberglass.. they still crack with reinforcements... URETHANE=$250 fair price... lets get this

08-11-2009, 05:38 PM	#18
*CrimsonRockett* We're watching you. Join Date: May 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 6,998 Trader Rating: (73) Rides Gallery: CrimsonRockett	Urethane isn't cheap. If anything, making them Urethane would bring up the cost significantly compared to fiberglass. Urethane is 100% out of the question. If Urethane parts were that simple to make, every company out there making replicas or pushing out their own product would turn to urethane. __________________ -Angry Panda Fabrication - Fixing iDesigns shitty work since 2008. CrimsonRockett@blogspot Need body work/paint? PM me.

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08-11-2009, 05:40 PM	#19
Matej Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kansas City Age: 21 Posts: 5,306 Trader Rating: (5)	The company my dad works for could replicate the lip, out of any material desired. If anyone is interested, try contacting them: http://www.rdleverage.com __________________ *ohtheIRONY.biz*

08-11-2009, 05:48 PM	#20
JaeTea Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: EC Posts: 799 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: JaeTea	The modiride one is sooooo flimsy its scarey. Like paper mache type shit. First drift event with this thing on and it will be gone. BTW, worst customer service ever. __________________ KILL!KILL!KILL!KILL!KILL!KILL!KILL!KILL!

08-11-2009, 05:52 PM	#22
s0apgun In time-out for misbehaving. Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: 　　　　 Posts: 5,211 Trader Rating: (11)	this is bleh im not going to pay 3-400 for a fiberglass replica of my oem lip that i paid 300 for which was pretty much new

08-11-2009, 05:54 PM	#23
*CrimsonRockett* We're watching you. Join Date: May 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 6,998 Trader Rating: (73) Rides Gallery: CrimsonRockett	Titanium. Make it happen. __________________ -Angry Panda Fabrication - Fixing iDesigns shitty work since 2008. CrimsonRockett@blogspot Need body work/paint? PM me.

08-11-2009, 05:54 PM	#24
turbo_dreams Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: queens, n.y Age: 19 Posts: 659 Trader Rating: (5)	3-400 For a fiberglass lip? I rather deal w/ "modrides" shitty service and half the price tag of a possible $300 lip. As far as fitment, if it's made by fiberglass, i'm sure i can add fiberglass/trim it to make fit myself. Not hating, just a consumer's insight. Although urethane is out of the question, it'd be a whole 'nother story as far as me paying 300 for it. __________________ Raman noodles Lifestyle.

08-11-2009, 06:01 PM	#26
Taniguchi_Is_#1 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Kingdom of Laos, with my boy GVP Age: 22 Posts: 2,267 Trader Rating: (1)	oem kouki bumper + lip for $500? i would consider it as a package, but it is a bit expensive for just the lip. especially after shipping..... it would suck. __________________ Kentucky Fried Panda: Finger Ling-Ling Good.

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