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Zenki_Kouki.5 · 07-03-2009, 03:21 PM

As stated.
Dry Ice is hard to come by in my area
and if they do have. its ridiculously expensive
any of you guys no any other options for removing the tar?
Thanks in advance

*Brian* · 07-03-2009, 03:34 PM

Hammer
Chisel
Brake Cleaner

MeanS14 · 07-03-2009, 03:37 PM

What Brian said!!

Whatever you do dont use a heat gun like some people suggest. It becomes a total mess

*murda-c* · 07-03-2009, 03:38 PM

supermarkets don't have it for cheap near you? sucks

Zenki_Kouki.5 · 07-03-2009, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian

Hammer
Chisel
Brake Cleaner

Will it be easy to come out, or do i need to put a little elbow grease lol?

Quote:

Originally Posted by murda-c

supermarkets don't have it for cheap near you? sucks

they do but they throw it or im really not sure
every grocerie store i went to said they dont sell it

*Brian* · 07-03-2009, 04:27 PM

It's a lot of work

Backintoans13 · 07-03-2009, 04:35 PM

Chisel and hammer will work but do yourself a favor and buy the dry ice. Everyone always recommends the dry ice method cuz it works but what they fail to mention is that dry ice makes it SUPER EASY!!! lol Seriously youd be doing yourself a favor by buying dry ice....i did my whole car with dry ice and it took me 25 min....of course you have to let it sit for about 10-15 min. I work at a grocery store so i stole mine lol dont really know how much it would of cost me but spring for it....you be glad that you did

*Brian* · 07-03-2009, 04:36 PM

I did 2 cars with soem dry ice. It never worked well for me. Maybe I did it wrong.

*racepar1* · 07-03-2009, 04:55 PM

Use a propane torch and a mechanic's scraper. NOT a shitty putty knife, but a good mechanic's gasket scraper. A heat gun works as well, but not quite as good as the torch. I have done it with a hair dryer as well, but it doesn't really get the tar hot enough. Once you get it hot the tar comes off like butter, but it is still an shitload of work. You'll also need a bunch of lacquer thinner and some old terrycloth towels that you don't mind ruining to clean up the residue. If you do it like this it comes off nice and clean with only some scratches on the floor. It does take a whole shitload of work though. Set aside an area of the floor to do each day and stay at it. Half removed sound deadening is the gheyest of the ghey.

XenoVibe · 07-03-2009, 05:04 PM

Use soap and water, apply an oily substance (creamy peanut butter, butter, vegetable oil, mayonaise or bath oil) wait 24 hours, wipe with a clothe, if there is still residue use WD-40, kerosene or mineral spirits like Petrolium Distilate.

*mandoz85* · 07-03-2009, 05:06 PM

i got some at smith's it was cheap.

wannabdr1ftr · 07-03-2009, 05:13 PM

i did it with hammer and chisel on my first fastback...ohh what a pain in the ass. On my second fastback i used dry ice and whew it was so much easier. With my coupe im going to use dry ice for the most of it and what i cant get ill heat it up with a heat gun and use my gasket scrapper to get it off

*Quail* · 07-03-2009, 05:14 PM

I've heard very good things about pipefreeze. The stuff plumbers use to freeze the water in a pipe before removing a section.

Apparently your spray the tar with the pipefreeze, smack it with a rubber mallet, and it comes off in sheets.

I'll be attempting it with mine v.soon.

*racepar1* · 07-03-2009, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XenoVibe

Use soap and water, apply an oily substance (creamy peanut butter, butter, vegetable oil, mayonaise or bath oil) wait 24 hours, wipe with a clothe, if there is still residue use WD-40, kerosene or mineral spirits like Petrolium Distilate.

Just skip all that and go with the lacquer thinner. It's tried and true and works perfectly.

Backintoans13 · 07-03-2009, 05:45 PM

Paint thinner worked great for me to take off the rest of the residue underneath the sound deadening. Dry ice worked wonders for me. We did my friends hatch like 3 yrs ago with the heat torch method and that method just sucked IMO. Every car ive done after mine has came out easy with the dry ice

MeanS14 · 07-03-2009, 05:53 PM

I've done it both ways: with a heat gun and with dry ice

Dry ice makes it 1000x easier. Cover one section at a time and let it sit for 10 to 15 min then wack it with a hammer and it comes up so easily

*Dousan_PG* · 07-03-2009, 08:03 PM

wire wheel works great but can be messy

jimmytango00 · 07-03-2009, 08:11 PM

wire wheel was fast but like dousan said , messy.

I did mine with dry ice then torched the left over areas.

drift_limo · 07-03-2009, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zenki_Kouki.5

As stated.
Dry Ice is hard to come by in my area
and if they do have. its ridiculously expensive
any of you guys no any other options for removing the tar?
Thanks in advance

dude albertson sell dry ice 1.99$ a pound ...

Choku_Dorian · 07-03-2009, 08:30 PM

harbor freight...rotary hammer with a wide chisel bit. fuck a hammer. goof off or any other harsh solvent/thinner/stripper with a soft scrubbing pad for the remnants.

havent tried dry ice yet, will on my next one. but hammer and chisel w/o dry ice def sucked donkey balls. the rotary hammer was 10x faster.

Backintoans13 · 07-03-2009, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeanS14

I've done it both ways: with a heat gun and with dry ice

Dry ice makes it 1000x easier. Cover one section at a time and let it sit for 10 to 15 min then wack it with a hammer and it comes up so easily

x2

Chips right off

*Otto347* · 07-03-2009, 10:52 PM

dry ice

let sit for 10 to 15 minutes then hit with rubber matlet. You can pick the pieces up off the floor like so

ixfxi · 07-04-2009, 01:22 AM

i used ice cubes

make sure they are square cubes, not sickle shaped

must be a perfect cube. it has to do with the geometry of the cube and the vibrations it induces into the chassis, causes the sound deadening to lift right off

amazing, really.

*azndoc* · 07-04-2009, 04:43 AM

^^^^^ mike is kidding by the way.

Dry ice is best although I've never tried it.

I'm a man. I just did it with a hammer, chisel, and elbow grease.

Just make sure you get the elbow grease from Kragens and not Autozone.

Its in a pink bottle.

s0apgun · 07-04-2009, 04:54 AM

damn no wonder i had a hard time

i got the blue bottle

HKSdrift3r · 07-04-2009, 08:16 AM

Man removing that tar stuff is so time consuming and lame.
I used hammer and chisel method on a few different cars.
AGHHHH

ixfxi · 07-04-2009, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ixfxi

i used ice cubes

make sure they are square cubes, not sickle shaped

must be a perfect cube. it has to do with the geometry of the cube and the vibrations it induces into the chassis, causes the sound deadening to lift right off

amazing, really.

Quote:

Originally Posted by azndoc

^^^^^ mike is kidding by the way.

Dry ice is best although I've never tried it.

yeah........ dry ice cubes....

thats what i said, no?

ice cubes....... the dry ones. you gotta wait till they dry though

roboticnissan · 07-04-2009, 01:24 PM

if you use no dry ice it will leave sticky glue behind you will have to sand and scrape all of it off. basically you would have to go over the car twice once to get like 80 percent of it off then go back with a sander or paint scraper

plus one for dry ice. it freezes everything including the glue under it and it comes right off....you do need to leave the ice on for a bit tho.

Sileighty_DRFT89 · 07-05-2009, 02:30 PM

while we're on the topic. did any of you find getting the tar off the rear fender wells was harder then the rest?? thats the only part I have left to do. dry ice just didn't seem to work on that part

Maiku240sxS14 · 07-05-2009, 03:09 PM

I just removed my sound deadening material...I used dry ice and some places its easy as pie, but other places (like mentioned above) the fender wells is harder. Just have to be patient and apply enough pressure for the ice to lay against the surface.

I used "Goo Off" or something like that to remove the residue left over.

I would not do it again unless someone paid me, or wait till winter. LoL

07-03-2009, 03:21 PM	#1
Zenki_Kouki.5 Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: 671 Age: 20 Posts: 54 Trader Rating: (0)	Is there any other option in taking off tar besides dry ice? As stated. Dry Ice is hard to come by in my area and if they do have. its ridiculously expensive any of you guys no any other options for removing the tar? Thanks in advance

07-03-2009, 03:34 PM	#2
Brian #10 poster. Mmbr since Jan.'03 Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: long beach california Age: 25 Posts: 10,227 Trader Rating: (37) Rides Gallery: Brian	Hammer Chisel Brake Cleaner __________________ http://bhworld.wordpress.com/ I deal WEDS Wheels if you want them....

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07-03-2009, 04:27 PM	#6
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07-03-2009, 04:36 PM	#8
Brian #10 poster. Mmbr since Jan.'03 Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: long beach california Age: 25 Posts: 10,227 Trader Rating: (37) Rides Gallery: Brian	I did 2 cars with soem dry ice. It never worked well for me. Maybe I did it wrong. __________________ http://bhworld.wordpress.com/ I deal WEDS Wheels if you want them....

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07-03-2009, 03:37 PM	#3
MeanS14 Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Glendale, AZ Age: 21 Posts: 136 Trader Rating: (1)	What Brian said!! Whatever you do dont use a heat gun like some people suggest. It becomes a total mess

07-03-2009, 04:35 PM	#7
Backintoans13 Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Las Cruces, NM Age: 27 Posts: 57 Trader Rating: (0)	Chisel and hammer will work but do yourself a favor and buy the dry ice. Everyone always recommends the dry ice method cuz it works but what they fail to mention is that dry ice makes it SUPER EASY!!! lol Seriously youd be doing yourself a favor by buying dry ice....i did my whole car with dry ice and it took me 25 min....of course you have to let it sit for about 10-15 min. I work at a grocery store so i stole mine lol dont really know how much it would of cost me but spring for it....you be glad that you did

07-03-2009, 04:55 PM	#9
racepar1 can't knock the hustle Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: reseda, CA Age: 26 Posts: 4,447 Trader Rating: (35) Rides Gallery: racepar1	Use a propane torch and a mechanic's scraper. NOT a shitty putty knife, but a good mechanic's gasket scraper. A heat gun works as well, but not quite as good as the torch. I have done it with a hair dryer as well, but it doesn't really get the tar hot enough. Once you get it hot the tar comes off like butter, but it is still an shitload of work. You'll also need a bunch of lacquer thinner and some old terrycloth towels that you don't mind ruining to clean up the residue. If you do it like this it comes off nice and clean with only some scratches on the floor. It does take a whole shitload of work though. Set aside an area of the floor to do each day and stay at it. Half removed sound deadening is the gheyest of the ghey. __________________ Disrespecting $20k + sports cars since 2007 -1989 nissan 240sx: uber track whore -1994 infiniti Q45t: daily baller NEED A MECHANIC IN SO-CAL? LOOK HERE: http://zilvia.net/f/south-western-st...-mechanic.html

07-03-2009, 05:04 PM	#10
XenoVibe BANNED Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Canuckistan Posts: 41 Trader Rating: (0)	Use soap and water, apply an oily substance (creamy peanut butter, butter, vegetable oil, mayonaise or bath oil) wait 24 hours, wipe with a clothe, if there is still residue use WD-40, kerosene or mineral spirits like Petrolium Distilate.

07-03-2009, 05:06 PM	#11
mandoz85 Mando Performance Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas, NV Age: 24 Posts: 196 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: mandoz85	i got some at smith's it was cheap. __________________

07-03-2009, 05:13 PM	#12
wannabdr1ftr Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Palm Coast, FL Age: 22 Posts: 158 Trader Rating: (0)	i did it with hammer and chisel on my first fastback...ohh what a pain in the ass. On my second fastback i used dry ice and whew it was so much easier. With my coupe im going to use dry ice for the most of it and what i cant get ill heat it up with a heat gun and use my gasket scrapper to get it off

07-03-2009, 05:14 PM	#13
Quail Premium Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: UK Age: 22 Posts: 668 Trader Rating: (0)	I've heard very good things about pipefreeze. The stuff plumbers use to freeze the water in a pipe before removing a section. Apparently your spray the tar with the pipefreeze, smack it with a rubber mallet, and it comes off in sheets. I'll be attempting it with mine v.soon. __________________ JT-CULTURE.com

07-03-2009, 05:45 PM	#15
Backintoans13 Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Las Cruces, NM Age: 27 Posts: 57 Trader Rating: (0)	Paint thinner worked great for me to take off the rest of the residue underneath the sound deadening. Dry ice worked wonders for me. We did my friends hatch like 3 yrs ago with the heat torch method and that method just sucked IMO. Every car ive done after mine has came out easy with the dry ice

07-03-2009, 05:53 PM	#16
MeanS14 Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Glendale, AZ Age: 21 Posts: 136 Trader Rating: (1)	I've done it both ways: with a heat gun and with dry ice Dry ice makes it 1000x easier. Cover one section at a time and let it sit for 10 to 15 min then wack it with a hammer and it comes up so easily

07-03-2009, 08:03 PM	#17
Dousan_PG Pink GodziRa Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 30 Posts: 16,307 Trader Rating: (10) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG	wire wheel works great but can be messy __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

07-03-2009, 08:11 PM	#18
jimmytango00 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Age: 24 Posts: 1,669 Trader Rating: (10)	wire wheel was fast but like dousan said , messy. I did mine with dry ice then torched the left over areas. __________________ "I also saw someone had bottled air from hurricane katrina for sale on ebay..."

07-03-2009, 08:30 PM	#20
Choku_Dorian Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Ft. Lauderdale FL Age: 23 Posts: 57 Trader Rating: (1)	harbor freight...rotary hammer with a wide chisel bit. fuck a hammer. goof off or any other harsh solvent/thinner/stripper with a soft scrubbing pad for the remnants. havent tried dry ice yet, will on my next one. but hammer and chisel w/o dry ice def sucked donkey balls. the rotary hammer was 10x faster.

07-04-2009, 01:22 AM	#23
ixfxi In time-out for misbehaving. Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Burbank, CA. Age: 67 Posts: 3,097 Trader Rating: (1)	i used ice cubes make sure they are square cubes, not sickle shaped must be a perfect cube. it has to do with the geometry of the cube and the vibrations it induces into the chassis, causes the sound deadening to lift right off amazing, really.

07-04-2009, 04:43 AM	#24
azndoc Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Orange County CA Age: 27 Posts: 8,709 Trader Rating: (5) Rides Gallery: azndoc	^^^^^ mike is kidding by the way. Dry ice is best although I've never tried it. I'm a man. I just did it with a hammer, chisel, and elbow grease. Just make sure you get the elbow grease from Kragens and not Autozone. Its in a pink bottle. __________________ -Jack www.azndoc.wordpress.com

07-04-2009, 04:54 AM	#25
s0apgun In time-out for misbehaving. Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: 　　　　 Posts: 5,211 Trader Rating: (11)	damn no wonder i had a hard time i got the blue bottle

07-04-2009, 08:16 AM	#26
HKSdrift3r Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Central Jersey Posts: 291 Trader Rating: (0)	Man removing that tar stuff is so time consuming and lame. I used hammer and chisel method on a few different cars. AGHHHH __________________ 1995 240SX SE... again

07-04-2009, 01:24 PM	#28
roboticnissan Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: SOCAL/NORCAL Age: 21 Posts: 320 Trader Rating: (0)	if you use no dry ice it will leave sticky glue behind you will have to sand and scrape all of it off. basically you would have to go over the car twice once to get like 80 percent of it off then go back with a sander or paint scraper plus one for dry ice. it freezes everything including the glue under it and it comes right off....you do need to leave the ice on for a bit tho. __________________

07-05-2009, 02:30 PM	#29
Sileighty_DRFT89 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Covina Age: 19 Posts: 706 Trader Rating: (2)	while we're on the topic. did any of you find getting the tar off the rear fender wells was harder then the rest?? thats the only part I have left to do. dry ice just didn't seem to work on that part __________________ deanthemachine33.blogspot.com

07-05-2009, 03:09 PM	#30
Maiku240sxS14 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: LA Posts: 468 Trader Rating: (7)	I just removed my sound deadening material...I used dry ice and some places its easy as pie, but other places (like mentioned above) the fender wells is harder. Just have to be patient and apply enough pressure for the ice to lay against the surface. I used "Goo Off" or something like that to remove the residue left over. I would not do it again unless someone paid me, or wait till winter. LoL

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