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MrChow · 04-15-2009, 04:43 AM

I currently have a pair of drift freaq motor mounts. I luv this mount. But something when wrong for some weird ass reason and I need to replace it.
Anyways here it is.

Yeah Yeah eBay link. But looks interesting.
eBay Motors: 89 - 98 240SX Urethane Engine Motor Mount ULTRA MOUNTS

Anyone?? Opinions??

I'll lock/delete in a heartbeat if I get any flamers.

*punxva* · 04-15-2009, 06:40 AM

well i dont have any actual experience with them, but they look legit, they are a simple design not hard to actually mess up. i'd say go for it

Propaganda · 04-15-2009, 09:36 AM

for that price, make your own mounts

Either from solid Al or this..
Technical Articles: Make Your Own Motor Mounts - Here's How

*drift freaq* · 04-15-2009, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Propaganda

for that price, make your own mounts

Either from solid Al or this..
Technical Articles: Make Your Own Motor Mounts - Here's How

Ah yeah and that guy on NICO is an idiot. You do not want a solid shaft going top to bottom. If you do that you basically turn the mount into a solid direct mount transferring all vibration and tension from your engine straight to the chassis. Now if you track it and don't care? Maybe, but it will put excess stress on your chassis and basically destroy drive ability of your car.

Those mounts on Nico are garbage.

The mounts on ebay look like they copied the mounts I was selling. It appears they built a interlock system into them because they were having problems with them coming apart.
Reason for this is it says right in their ad if the mount comes apart then they will give you your money back or exchange it.

Honestly this would scare me.

The mounts I was selling were actually lift tested picking up a pickup with a forklift with the mount holding the two items together.

Never ever had a problem with KA/SR mounts coming apart. In fact I can still get them made. Fact is I stopped selling them because everyone got cheap and did not want to pay for them. At $100 a set they were less than a lot of stuff on the market. though cheap asses like above just chose to try and roll their own junk because no one wants to spend good money on our cars anymore.

MonkeyWrench · 05-28-2009, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drift freaq

Ah yeah and that guy on NICO is an idiot. You do not want a solid shaft going top to bottom. If you do that you basically turn the mount into a solid direct mount transferring all vibration and tension from your engine straight to the chassis. Now if you track it and don't care? Maybe, but it will put excess stress on your chassis and basically destroy drive ability of your car.

Interesting.

I've driven that car (on the street and on the track) and nothing you say is applicable.

"Excess stress on the chassis"? LOL - Dude, it's a 400-whp KA-T... Who gives a shit about "excess stress"?

The car idles smooth, and there's less vibration from the engine to chasis than in my S14 with the Nismo mounts.

Theoretical navel-gazing from people who don't BUILD cars is harmful to the community. Please know what you're talking about before posting your uninformed opinions.

***S14DB*** · 05-28-2009, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonkeyWrench

Interesting.

I've driven that car (on the street and on the track) and nothing you say is applicable.

"Excess stress on the chassis"? LOL - Dude, it's a 400-whp KA-T... Who gives a shit about "excess stress"?

The car idles smooth, and there's less vibration from the engine to chasis than in my S14 with the Nismo mounts.

Theoretical navel-gazing from people who don't BUILD cars is harmful to the community. Please know what you're talking about before posting your uninformed opinions.

Pot, Kettle, Black...

Those mounts only take care of Damping Compressive forces. Does nothing for Tension force. Sure it idles well on the jello. But when the engine experiences torsional forces that mount becomes solid, pulling on the bolt.

zenki.life · 05-28-2009, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonkeyWrench

Interesting.

Theoretical navel-gazing from people who don't BUILD cars is harmful to the community. Please know what you're talking about before posting your uninformed opinions.

hmmmm. a whole 21 posts.

and deciding to call one of the most knowledgeable and (most importantly) nice person on here. i have seen how he helps some of the car noobs on here that perhaps should not even be helped. i was one. maybe still am. i'd ban you monkeywrench just on principle. ignorant fuck. however there are other sites that you can spread your nonsense in, but leave it out of this one

*wh0aitznic0* · 05-28-2009, 01:57 PM

Drift Freaq knows what he's talking about.

*drift freaq* · 05-28-2009, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonkeyWrench

Interesting.

I've driven that car (on the street and on the track) and nothing you say is applicable.

"Excess stress on the chassis"? LOL - Dude, it's a 400-whp KA-T... Who gives a shit about "excess stress"?

The car idles smooth, and there's less vibration from the engine to chasis than in my S14 with the Nismo mounts.

Theoretical navel-gazing from people who don't BUILD cars is harmful to the community. Please know what you're talking about before posting your uninformed opinions.

Wow you assume a lot. Oh and if there was vibration from Nismo mounts in your S14 something was wrong. Nismo mounts tend to be vibration free.

Hmm navel gazing. Hmmm don't build cars? Wow. You know absolutely nothing about me.

Now, considering that I have built SR cars. I have helped build and owned RB cars. I have built 240Z's and Datsun 510's when your dumb ass was in diapers! I suggest you shut the fuck up.

I do know all about engine mounts. In fact I know more about engine mounts than most of the people on here.
Why? I used to sell my another manufacturers install kit for RB's and I use to sell my own engine mounts.

One thing I do, before just trying to market an aftermarket product, is research into the design and how to better it.
Running a bolt straight through a mount is just not the right way and it will transfer stress and vibration sooner or later.

*GSXRJJordan* · 05-28-2009, 03:57 PM

I think those ebay mounts are a good design, but you could make a set for a lot less than that... some grade 8/10 bolts, weld a small "C" piece of steel to connect them, throw a washer on the top and bottom, throw 'em in the bottom of a pringles can, and fill it up to the top washer with Delrin. The bolts are cheap, and Delrin's like $30. Same shit they've got, I'm guessing.

Dave's mounts are money. As stated, they take care of forces in both directions (pushing and pulling), and are not a solid mount - and that's not THAT much money for a set of mounts. I wish they had cheap Delrin tranny mounts though...

xs240 · 05-28-2009, 04:58 PM

I've wondered... arent there ways to isolate vibrations but still make it more solid... i mean can it be that we just have only so many options nismo, cusco, etc... I run cuscos, its solid but man its anoying... great for racing though...

DDDsquad_s13panda · 05-29-2009, 12:59 PM

do the hockey pucks instead. i just finish putting mine on, and i put up a write up about it... over all , drives koo, but everything rattles at a steady idle, but the response action is a champ!!!!

*OBEEWON* · 05-29-2009, 02:15 PM

I'm running wood mounts.

*jspecusa* · 05-30-2009, 12:05 AM

we have tried many mounts over the years.
like all things in life, you get what you paid for, question is do you really need something that nice?
our favorite pick is kazama and cusco mounts, and we suggest running a engine torque damper.
cheers,

sam

MotorMounts · 06-12-2009, 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drift freaq

Ah yeah and that guy on NICO is an idiot. You do not want a solid shaft going top to bottom. If you do that you basically turn the mount into a solid direct mount transferring all vibration and tension from your engine straight to the chassis. Now if you track it and don't care? Maybe, but it will put excess stress on your chassis and basically destroy drive ability of your car.

Those mounts on Nico are garbage.

The mounts on ebay look like they copied the mounts I was selling. It appears they built a interlock system into them because they were having problems with them coming apart.
Reason for this is it says right in their ad if the mount comes apart then they will give you your money back or exchange it.

Honestly this would scare me.

The mounts I was selling were actually lift tested picking up a pickup with a forklift with the mount holding the two items together.

Never ever had a problem with KA/SR mounts coming apart. In fact I can still get them made. Fact is I stopped selling them because everyone got cheap and did not want to pay for them. At $100 a set they were less than a lot of stuff on the market. though cheap asses like above just chose to try and roll their own junk because no one wants to spend good money on our cars anymore.

How you doin' Expert,
For the sake of all who read your posts I hope your other 11,134 posts were not so lacking of factual information. The world does not need another self proclaimed expert preaching a bunch of "I think". You know absolutely ZERO about those mounts on eBay, Z-E-R-O, nothing about the urethane used, the steel frame internals, the testing done or if there was ever a problem before their current design. But you will be the first guy to jump up and scream "I think...........blah blah blah" to make yourself sound smart, when you really don't "know". If you don't know, that's fine, none of us know it all, but if you don't have the facts, stay in the back of the bus with your mouth shut and ears open. You might learn something for the next time someone wants to know what you "know" not what you "think".
One more thing, unless you were selling urethane mounts over three years ago, there is no way the mounts you "used" to sell could have influenced the Ultra Mounts in any way. And, there is a huge difference between "selling" and "building". If you build it right a third grader can sell it.

How was that for a first post, Boo........Yaa

*DALAZ_68* · 06-12-2009, 09:21 AM

theres a reason why a company like NISSAN designed the mounts the way they did instead of just running down a threaded rod thru a jello mold...

MotoMounts - glad to see Salem Oregon can still produce people that can spell a 2 syllable word... a cookie is in the mail

*drift freaq* · 06-12-2009, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MotorMounts

How you doin' Expert,
For the sake of all who read your posts I hope your other 11,134 posts were not so lacking of factual information. The world does not need another self proclaimed expert preaching a bunch of "I think". You know absolutely ZERO about those mounts on eBay, Z-E-R-O, nothing about the urethane used, the steel frame internals, the testing done or if there was ever a problem before their current design. But you will be the first guy to jump up and scream "I think...........blah blah blah" to make yourself sound smart, when you really don't "know". If you don't know, that's fine, none of us know it all, but if you don't have the facts, stay in the back of the bus with your mouth shut and ears open. You might learn something for the next time someone wants to know what you "know" not what you "think".
One more thing, unless you were selling urethane mounts over three years ago, there is no way the mounts you "used" to sell could have influenced the Ultra Mounts in any way. And, there is a huge difference between "selling" and "building". If you build it right a third grader can sell it.

How was that for a first post, Boo........Yaa

LOL Wow typical noob you are.
Oh and yeah I was selling Urethane mounts over three years ago actually 4-5 years ago to be exact, in fact we were selling urethane mounts before most people were stateside.

If you really had done your research on me? You would have seen that. I think you're the one with your head firmly planted up your ass. I bet you are the one selling those mounts on ebay? Since your screen is motormounts.

It should be motormouth!

Oh and mister noob trying to school a long time member. I don't post without facts and you did not even quote me. You did not even paraphrase me. I never said I knew those mounts. I stated based on what they posted why it might not be a good idea.

You are just a little to quick on defensive, which usually means I struck a nerve and I am probably right. Just an observation based on your knee jerk reaction.

You already blew your defensive. give it up loser.

*DALAZ_68* · 06-12-2009, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drift freaq

I bet you are the one selling those mounts on ebay? Since your screen is motormounts.

.

click the thread dave, see location of the seller on ebay, and see motormounts location...

Bigsyke · 06-12-2009, 12:57 PM

JGS poly mounts, weve already gone over this in 100 threads.

Am I the only one who actually inspected the hockey puck style mount, and say the bolts going through them were cocked to the side?

Mabye everyone forgot that the nissan ka/sr mounts "bolts" were offset, and there is added stress on the contact surface.

Am I the only one who saw this after I put the mounts in?

JGS poly, 100x better than any solid mount, hardly ANY vibration.

*landins13* · 06-12-2009, 01:02 PM

yeah these are straight up soup can mounts with no ofset.

jamg · 06-12-2009, 01:09 PM

here's what you do.

get stock mounts, and get 3M WINDOW WELD.

then use the window weld and mold it like this, onto the mount.

USE 3M window weld.

*OBEEWON* · 06-12-2009, 01:12 PM

fail ownage.

jamg · 06-12-2009, 01:14 PM

lol

those ebay mounts look legit, if they fail, send them back, they will refund your money, and give you a new set of mounts.

*DALAZ_68* · 06-12-2009, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamg

lol

those ebay mounts look legit, if they fail, send them back, they will refund your money, and give you a new set of mounts.

why would i want something back that already failed on me, to potentially fail on me...AGAIN...?

clark · 06-12-2009, 02:26 PM

wait, so what's wrong with the urethane/plastic solo cup/pringle can method?? that seems legit...

fuck it i'll just get wood like obeewan did.

Dousan_PG · 06-12-2009, 02:52 PM

i love the ghetto setups

its funny as shit
ive done it
and now that i actually spent money, i dont know why i did

oh here come the 'oh ive tried both'

bullshit.

spend some money, and its not even that much

if 200 bucks is out of your budget

fucking cars arent for you

and id trust dave shit over some henious ebay crap. dave is old. and he's old school. knows his shit.

93nismo · 06-12-2009, 03:28 PM

ebays good for things like intakes and exhaust. things that matter? ehh. get some real mounts. those look legit to some but i wouldent trust em. i have nismo mounts on mine and there great. spend the money on good shit instead of more on lots of bad shit. in the long run, itl be better. like he^ said, if 200 is too much u dont really belong here

HYPNOTIK · 06-12-2009, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrChow

I currently have a pair of drift freaq motor mounts. I luv this mount. But something when wrong for some weird ass reason and I need to replace it.
Anyways here it is.

Yeah Yeah eBay link. But looks interesting.
eBay Motors: 89 - 98 240SX Urethane Engine Motor Mount ULTRA MOUNTS

Anyone?? Opinions??

I'll lock/delete in a heartbeat if I get any flamers.

I just bought these mounts, they are AWESOME. They fall right in between Nismo mounts and solid. I HIGHLY recommend them. Excellent build quality too.

FaLKoN240 · 06-12-2009, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamg

here's what you do.

get stock mounts, and get 3M WINDOW WELD.

then use the window weld and mold it like this, onto the mount.

USE 3M window weld.

Hell yeah, I did that, LOL. I wouldn't do it again though.

ixfxi · 06-12-2009, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dousan_PG

i love the ghetto setups

its funny as shit
ive done it
and now that i actually spent money, i dont know why i did

oh here come the 'oh ive tried both'

bullshit.

spend some money, and its not even that much

if 200 bucks is out of your budget

fucking cars arent for you

and id trust dave shit over some henious ebay crap. dave is old. and he's old school. knows his shit.

fuckin dousan.......... everytime aron opens his mouth he says fuckin truth, i love it.

anyway, i dont know much about the ebay mounts but i really dont see much value in them. for most people nismo mounts are all you need. if you want something more aggressive, just fill the factory mounts with urethane - i did and i really, Really... REALLY like how it feels.

As for the ebay mounts, here is my favorite part of their ad:

"We label every mount with our name and phone number so if you ever need it , it will be easy to find."

Wow, thats very convenient. If only HKS, Apex, and Greddy did that. I'de love having their phone number on each and every part.

CLASSY.

05-28-2009, 03:57 PM	#10
GSXRJJordan Jordan Innovations! Join Date: May 2006 Location: << 626 >> Posts: 8,043 Trader Rating: (17) Rides Gallery: GSXRJJordan	I think those ebay mounts are a good design, but you could make a set for a lot less than that... some grade 8/10 bolts, weld a small "C" piece of steel to connect them, throw a washer on the top and bottom, throw 'em in the bottom of a pringles can, and fill it up to the top washer with Delrin. The bolts are cheap, and Delrin's like $30. Same shit they've got, I'm guessing. Dave's mounts are money. As stated, they take care of forces in both directions (pushing and pulling), and are not a solid mount - and that's not THAT much money for a set of mounts. I wish they had cheap Delrin tranny mounts though... __________________ << Super clean '69 Datsun 510 F/s - KA Swap, Coilovers, 280zx brakes, more! >>

05-29-2009, 02:15 PM	#13
OBEEWON Hopey Changey Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hightened State of Emergency Posts: 1,821 Trader Rating: (0)	I'm running wood mounts. __________________ KeEp DrIfTiNg SeRiOuS SOLO

05-30-2009, 12:05 AM	#14
jspecusa Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: socal Posts: 779 Trader Rating: (3)	we have tried many mounts over the years. like all things in life, you get what you paid for, question is do you really need something that nice? our favorite pick is kazama and cusco mounts, and we suggest running a engine torque damper. cheers, sam __________________ Nissan Japan: "road to happiness has many curves"

06-12-2009, 09:21 AM	#16
DALAZ_68 S14 Reaper Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Los angeles Age: 24 Posts: 13,305 Trader Rating: (85)	theres a reason why a company like NISSAN designed the mounts the way they did instead of just running down a threaded rod thru a jello mold... MotoMounts - glad to see Salem Oregon can still produce people that can spell a 2 syllable word... a cookie is in the mail __________________ LOL 240... whats better than 1? 5 1's ...lol XBL GT : Wh0pp3r68

06-12-2009, 01:02 PM	#20
landins13 You love to hate me! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Baltimore Posts: 621 Trader Rating: (2)	yeah these are straight up soup can mounts with no ofset. __________________ NO HANDS IN PANTS!!

04-15-2009, 09:36 AM	#3
Propaganda Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2005 Location: Super Bowl 39 Age: 23 Posts: 359 Trader Rating: (6)	for that price, make your own mounts Either from solid Al or this.. Technical Articles: Make Your Own Motor Mounts - Here's How

05-28-2009, 04:58 PM	#11
xs240 BANNED Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: . Posts: 440 Trader Rating: (1)	I've wondered... arent there ways to isolate vibrations but still make it more solid... i mean can it be that we just have only so many options nismo, cusco, etc... I run cuscos, its solid but man its anoying... great for racing though...

05-29-2009, 12:59 PM	#12
DDDsquad_s13panda BANNED Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Fontana, IE. Age: 23 Posts: 553 Trader Rating: (7)	do the hockey pucks instead. i just finish putting mine on, and i put up a write up about it... over all , drives koo, but everything rattles at a steady idle, but the response action is a champ!!!!

06-12-2009, 12:57 PM	#19
Bigsyke Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NA Age: 25 Posts: 1,297 Trader Rating: (0)	JGS poly mounts, weve already gone over this in 100 threads. Am I the only one who actually inspected the hockey puck style mount, and say the bolts going through them were cocked to the side? Mabye everyone forgot that the nissan ka/sr mounts "bolts" were offset, and there is added stress on the contact surface. Am I the only one who saw this after I put the mounts in? JGS poly, 100x better than any solid mount, hardly ANY vibration.

06-12-2009, 01:09 PM	#21
jamg Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2009 Location: GA Posts: 516 Trader Rating: (0)	here's what you do. get stock mounts, and get 3M WINDOW WELD. then use the window weld and mold it like this, onto the mount. USE 3M window weld.

06-12-2009, 01:12 PM	#22
OBEEWON Hopey Changey Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hightened State of Emergency Posts: 1,821 Trader Rating: (0)	fail ownage. __________________ KeEp DrIfTiNg SeRiOuS SOLO

06-12-2009, 01:14 PM	#23
jamg Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2009 Location: GA Posts: 516 Trader Rating: (0)	lol those ebay mounts look legit, if they fail, send them back, they will refund your money, and give you a new set of mounts.

06-12-2009, 02:26 PM	#25
clark Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: new york Posts: 1,015 Trader Rating: (0)	wait, so what's wrong with the urethane/plastic solo cup/pringle can method?? that seems legit... fuck it i'll just get wood like obeewan did.

06-12-2009, 02:52 PM	#26
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 31 Posts: 16,433 Trader Rating: (15) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG	i love the ghetto setups its funny as shit ive done it and now that i actually spent money, i dont know why i did oh here come the 'oh ive tried both' bullshit. spend some money, and its not even that much if 200 bucks is out of your budget fucking cars arent for you and id trust dave shit over some henious ebay crap. dave is old. and he's old school. knows his shit. __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

06-12-2009, 03:28 PM	#27
93nismo Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: sycamore il Posts: 526 Trader Rating: (2)	ebays good for things like intakes and exhaust. things that matter? ehh. get some real mounts. those look legit to some but i wouldent trust em. i have nismo mounts on mine and there great. spend the money on good shit instead of more on lots of bad shit. in the long run, itl be better. like he^ said, if 200 is too much u dont really belong here

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