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*drift freaq* · 02-13-2009, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by xsparc

I think ill pick up a Genesis because i want something kinda inexpensive that i can mod in cali. Nissan has gone way down hill in the power to weight ratio so this looks like the best tuner option for the time being.

And driving a choped up 20yr old car is getting kinda old.

Ah excuse me but the Genesis Coupe is no winner in the power to weight ratio game. In fact its heavy. Oh and the 350Z and the 370z will own it. Plain and simple. Oh and I mentioned this in another thread you can pick up a used 350Z for 10k or less, around $18k for a 2007 which is rated at 306 HP. Hmm why would I bother with Korean rip off of everybody elses car when I can buy a Japanese car that has heritage. NO THANKS On GENESIS. I will never buy a Korean attempt at a Sports car!

dorkidori_s13 · 02-13-2009, 12:36 AM

the most appealing aspect to me about the genesis is that it boasts a 4 cyl, rwd, turbo engine...and it also actually looks good (well slammed on some flush wheels)...and not to mention its a 4B11 motor...same block as the evo...slightly different head...so right there you know the engine portion is reliable...moreso than anything else hyundai offers

dorkidori_s13 · 02-13-2009, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

Well you do know that NISSAN never really took off as a global name. Nissan is big in Japan and Japan only. Sure the S-chassis was peddled world wide, but just like in the states, they didnt have as big of a following in the 90s. How many people really gave a shit about these cars outside Japan before 1999? The sad truth is not a whole lot. Not till the popularity of drifting, is when people really started paying attention on these cars. Unfortunately, it was too late by then. S15s werent even a global car, when Nissan pulled the plug on the S14 in the states due to the pathetic sales number, Nissan pulled the S-chassis for Europe too.

has the amount of optomism just gone completely from most peoples lives??? especially S chassis tuners and fans??? maybe its because of the media induced recession were living in or the absolute negative state that the world lives its life in...but honestly...the amount of negativity and defeat im starting to read from a lot of people posting is just very distressing

i guess maybe its a rule ive made for myself in my own life from my own life experiences that it helps your world around when you stay positive and optomistic for the good things to happen in life

(not making any personal attacks with my statement above...just throwing something out there that is meant as an observation and nothing more)

dorkidori_s13 · 02-13-2009, 12:41 AM

and remember kids...this whole situation....

i heart you s13silviagirl

*drift freaq* · 02-13-2009, 12:50 AM

I would buy a New RX7 before I bought a Korean Sports car. Oh and I think the Genesis coupe is terribly generic and fail in the looks department. There I fucking said it. RX7,350Z,370Z. Hell maybe even a Cayman S used! No Korean, No Korean, NO crap Korean Sports cars!

Oh and so what it has the base of shitty ASS fucking MitsuSHITTY EVO engine . Mitsushitties are as bad as a Hyundai sports car!

dorkidori_s13 · 02-13-2009, 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drift freaq

I would buy a New RX7 before I bought a Korean Sports car. Oh and I think the Genesis coupe is terribly generic and fail in the looks department. There I fucking said it. RX7,350Z,370Z. Hell maybe even a Cayman S used! No Korean, No Korean, NO crap Korean Sports cars!

Oh and so what it has the base of shitty ASS fucking MitsuSHITTY EVO engine . Mitsushitties are as bad as a Hyundai sports car!

yikes *crawls under rock*

dorkidori_s13 · 02-13-2009, 01:00 AM

if you guys would...PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE repost a link to this topic on other web forums you post on for drifting or 240s in general...i am posting this thing all over the place to get people to come here to vote...this topic is VERY important to me and the research i am trying to put together...this information and thread WILL be sent to nissan and WILL find its way to someone VERY high up that i know there

*fliprayzin240sx* · 02-13-2009, 01:36 AM

SO wheres the part on the Poll where I vote: No, I will not buy a new neo S-chassis because Im happy with 15 yr old POS?

*irax* · 02-13-2009, 01:37 AM

there needs to be an "I really want a new 240sx type car, but the gen coupe looks hot and has options I want" or "I'm planning on buying the gen coupe until Nissan brings back a 240sx that looks kind of like the s15 with modern styling."

My friend over at Greddy told me about how the gen coupe dynos

100% stock ~145whp
open hood ~150whp
aftermarket intake ~170whp

and the 3.8 v6 makes ~300whp

so... is 155-130 whp worth the extra 5k??? hmmm... YES! though I never owned a turbo car but I kind of want to.

dorkidori_s13 · 02-13-2009, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by irax

My friend over at Greddy told me about how the gen coupe dynos

100% stock ~145whp
open hood ~150whp
aftermarket intake ~170whp

kinda funny how those numbers are VERY close to a bone stock SR

if that motor is ANYTHING like the evo X 4B11...adding bolt ons will have the HP jumping in leaps and bounds

unlegendary · 02-13-2009, 01:50 AM

this is like a group buy offer that is waiting to go sour. if anything they should just bring the S15s to the states unless the new s chassis will get a 6 cylinder turbo, lightweight, not ugly like any new car, and has optional sport packages. either way, nissan would look like they're playing catch up to a knock off company lol.

Jdotsturn · 02-13-2009, 01:57 AM

I would never buy a new car. However, if it did come out I would wait 3-5 years and might consider picking up a used one.

Flipzide · 02-13-2009, 02:22 AM

i voted

Quote:

I am interested in the car, but i will not make a decision until ive seen the car

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I prolly wouldn't try to get one until the 2nd or third year though. Definately would never get the first year. I'd honestly only be interested if it was a inline 4 turbo and nothing less.

*irax* · 02-13-2009, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by dorkidori_s13

kinda funny how those numbers are VERY close to a bone stock SR

LOLOL! I see what you did there? No I am wrong about the SR but this is what my friend at Greddy told me. We just thought it was fucking hilarious that if you pop the hood open you gain hp.

BustedS13 · 02-13-2009, 02:27 AM

i'm honestly curious why anyone on this forum would really be interested in this car other than heritage.
this car would be better suited for kids whose parents want to buy a scion tc-esque ride to attain "cool dad status".

anybody on here should be considering the fact that a lightly used z33 would be significantly cheaper than the new silvia, and ten times cooler.

WILDACEX187 · 02-13-2009, 02:39 AM

not after seeing the 370z it aint. and u dont even know wat the replacement looks like

BustedS13 · 02-13-2009, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by WILDACEX187

not after seeing the 370z it aint. and u dont even know wat the replacement looks like

....the 370 is what's driving the price down on the 350.
and i can tell you what it'll look like. a rear wheel drive scion tC. four seats, small engine, less performance-oriented than the z33.
i can also tell you that if it's a mid 20's car, you will pay ten thousand dollars more for it than you would for a late model z33. fuck that.

i thought it'd be cool to buy one but then the moment passed. i don't need a tiny, useless back seat. if there's four of us wanting to go somewhere, one of us has a sedan

*!Zar!* · 02-13-2009, 04:02 AM

Honestly, there is no NEED for a modern day 240sx.

And the WANT for one is mostly by people who still live in mom and dads basement and are too poor to buy a salvage title s13, let a lone a brand new car.

Looking at it from a car stand point, the 350z IS the modern day 240.

Good aftermarket, rwd and pretty cheap for what it is.

klohiq · 02-13-2009, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by !Zar!

Looking at it from a car stand point, the 350z IS the modern day 240.

exactly...

you can't expect any car manufacturer to make a car as light as the 240sx anymore. people want bigger cars and more power. all that refinement along with nvh, safety equipment, etc and you have a car that weighs as much as the 350z.

240SXsaint · 02-13-2009, 04:24 AM

id get one but id wait till the second year to buy one. and no I dont live with mom or dad. i like the nissan tradition of always having a fun car to drive so if there is gonna be a 240 replacement ill get one if not ill invest in a used 350z

BustedS13 · 02-13-2009, 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klohiq

exactly...

you can't expect any car manufacturer to make a car as light as the 240sx anymore. people want bigger cars and more power. all that refinement along with nvh, safety equipment, etc and you have a car that weighs as much as the 350z.

3188 pounds is NOT an excessively heavy car.

*fliprayzin240sx* · 02-13-2009, 04:38 AM

Who cares how heavy a car is nowadays, as long as the suspension is tweak to handle the extra weight, who cares?

dc2_lsvtec · 02-13-2009, 05:45 AM

I would have been interested, but i already bought a used MR-S. i would have considered a new 240sx-type car though. maybe down the line.

TehMaverick · 02-13-2009, 05:48 AM

let me help you

Silvia is cancelled.

Nissan in the stupidest move cancels nextgen RWD silvia: General Chat: Nissan Forums / Infiniti Forums - NICOclub

and I have yet too find a zilvia thread in which it talks about it, except for the 2011 240 thread, which i guess, doesn't know about the cancellation.

*irax* · 02-13-2009, 07:27 AM

ohh great they cancel supposedly making the silvia to continue to make altima coupes and sentras. *face palm*

Altima coupes are great, but you are just lying to your self when you buy one. "I really like G35's but my wallet likes Altima coups, no one can tell the drifference right?" Sure it looks good and it looks just like the g35 but the handling is no where near comparable. Instead of making the Altima coupe they should of brought back the M30 coupe or some variant entry level faux luxury car.

shinhed · 02-13-2009, 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

Who cares how heavy a car is nowadays, as long as the suspension is tweak to handle the extra weight, who cares?

No reasonable amount of suspension tweaking will allow a Tesla (2723lbs) to keep up with a 134hp Lotus Elise S (1975lbs) and the Tesla has more grunt and straight line speed.

Weight matters.

*LA_phantom_240* · 02-13-2009, 07:35 AM

I'd like to see the car and get a to drive it before deciding to get it. Mind you, with my S14 undergoing some bigger changes, a new(er) daily driver would be great, and if the price is right and I like the 240sx 'replacement', I'd pick it up. 20k is definitely in my range of what I can afford to make payments on.

MambaSic · 02-13-2009, 08:19 AM

well you wont get that chance, because its all over now. And the New "silvia" Will Not come to be. Close thread and Cry. F*cK You Nissan. Bissshs N Bastrds. Hyundai will tear it up if they are gonna be the only ones. Maybe Mazda will be able to pull something off.

dorkidori_s13 · 02-13-2009, 10:38 AM

ITS NOT CANCELLED!!!! ITS POSTPONED!!!!

it has simply been postponed due to the worlds economy

JoeC1982 · 02-13-2009, 11:02 AM

hopefully it will be ready for my 2nd car purchase in the future which will probably be summer/fall of '11.

View Poll Results: Please Vote HONESTLY Below...
Yes, I am ready to make a new car purchase, and i want the new "240sx replacement"	69	11.42%
I am interested in the car, but i will not make a decision until ive seen the car	276	45.70%
No, i cannot afford to spend $20.000 - $25,000 on a new car, but i am interested in the car greatly	156	25.83%
No, Nissan has lost a customer due to not making any official announcements and im tired of waiting	11	1.82%
No, i am planning on purchasing a 350z/370z/G35/G37	44	7.28%
I will be purchasing a 2010 Hyundai Genesis because i am tired of the wait for Nissan's offering	48	7.95%
Voters: 604. You may not vote on this poll

02-13-2009, 12:50 AM	#65
drift freaq Hey, that's my Passport, Aya ! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Hollywoooood! Posts: 12,341 Trader Rating: (70) Rides Gallery: drift freaq	I would buy a New RX7 before I bought a Korean Sports car. Oh and I think the Genesis coupe is terribly generic and fail in the looks department. There I fucking said it. RX7,350Z,370Z. Hell maybe even a Cayman S used! No Korean, No Korean, NO crap Korean Sports cars! Oh and so what it has the base of shitty ASS fucking MitsuSHITTY EVO engine . Mitsushitties are as bad as a Hyundai sports car! __________________ 1991 Azzurro California Metallic S13.5 VQ35HR project in the works! 1993.5 INFINITI G20 86k Current Daily(Gas Saver) FS:http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/27547...ne-mounts.html

02-13-2009, 01:36 AM	#68
fliprayzin240sx SLINKY + ESCULATOR = Fun Times Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Ass Crack of Japan Posts: 8,414 Trader Rating: (5) Rides Gallery: fliprayzin240sx	SO wheres the part on the Poll where I vote: No, I will not buy a new neo S-chassis because Im happy with 15 yr old POS? __________________

02-13-2009, 01:50 AM	#71
unlegendary Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: San Diego California Rep Power: 1904 Posts: 476 Trader Rating: (1)	this is like a group buy offer that is waiting to go sour. if anything they should just bring the S15s to the states unless the new s chassis will get a 6 cylinder turbo, lightweight, not ugly like any new car, and has optional sport packages. either way, nissan would look like they're playing catch up to a knock off company lol. __________________ Full Time Student until 2011 = sad

02-13-2009, 01:57 AM	#72
Jdotsturn Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: 909 Age: 21 Posts: 510 Trader Rating: (9)	I would never buy a new car. However, if it did come out I would wait 3-5 years and might consider picking up a used one. __________________ JayRemy-Jdotsturn.wordpress.com Fancy Pancy

02-13-2009, 02:27 AM	#75
BustedS13 In time-out for misbehaving. Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: STL Age: 25 Posts: 7,862 Trader Rating: (0)	i'm honestly curious why anyone on this forum would really be interested in this car other than heritage. this car would be better suited for kids whose parents want to buy a scion tc-esque ride to attain "cool dad status". anybody on here should be considering the fact that a lightly used z33 would be significantly cheaper than the new silvia, and ten times cooler.

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02-13-2009, 02:39 AM	#76
WILDACEX187 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: QUEENZ, NYC Age: 27 Posts: 3,084 Trader Rating: (3)	not after seeing the 370z it aint. and u dont even know wat the replacement looks like __________________ http://hometown.aol.com/wildacex187/...nceenissan.gif SR POWA COUPE LUVVV!!!

02-13-2009, 04:02 AM	#78
!Zar! Ezel verkrachtende schijteter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Milf Valley Posts: 9,457 Trader Rating: (2)	Honestly, there is no NEED for a modern day 240sx. And the WANT for one is mostly by people who still live in mom and dads basement and are too poor to buy a salvage title s13, let a lone a brand new car. Looking at it from a car stand point, the 350z IS the modern day 240. Good aftermarket, rwd and pretty cheap for what it is. __________________ -=Mel=-

02-13-2009, 04:24 AM	#80
240SXsaint Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: sin city Age: 23 Posts: 57 Trader Rating: (1)	id get one but id wait till the second year to buy one. and no I dont live with mom or dad. i like the nissan tradition of always having a fun car to drive so if there is gonna be a 240 replacement ill get one if not ill invest in a used 350z

02-13-2009, 04:38 AM	#82
fliprayzin240sx SLINKY + ESCULATOR = Fun Times Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Ass Crack of Japan Posts: 8,414 Trader Rating: (5) Rides Gallery: fliprayzin240sx	Who cares how heavy a car is nowadays, as long as the suspension is tweak to handle the extra weight, who cares? __________________

02-13-2009, 05:45 AM	#83
dc2_lsvtec Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: IL Age: 22 Posts: 639 Trader Rating: (0)	I would have been interested, but i already bought a used MR-S. i would have considered a new 240sx-type car though. maybe down the line. __________________ nachtmensch.blogspot.com

02-13-2009, 05:48 AM	#84
TehMaverick Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hagerstown, Maryland Age: 19 Posts: 84 Trader Rating: (1)	let me help you Silvia is cancelled. Nissan in the stupidest move cancels nextgen RWD silvia: General Chat: Nissan Forums / Infiniti Forums - NICOclub and I have yet too find a zilvia thread in which it talks about it, except for the 2011 240 thread, which i guess, doesn't know about the cancellation.

02-13-2009, 08:19 AM	#88
MambaSic Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Pennsyl-Tucky Age: 29 Posts: 54 Trader Rating: (0)	well you wont get that chance, because its all over now. And the New "silvia" Will Not come to be. Close thread and Cry. F*cK You Nissan. Bissshs N Bastrds. Hyundai will tear it up if they are gonna be the only ones. Maybe Mazda will be able to pull something off.

02-13-2009, 11:02 AM	#90
JoeC1982 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Little Rock, AR Age: 27 Posts: 317 Trader Rating: (0)	hopefully it will be ready for my 2nd car purchase in the future which will probably be summer/fall of '11. __________________ 96 240SX daily driver resto//mod Nismo//JBL//Hawk My feedback: http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=169481

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