Help choose rods and arms: SPL, Peak, Bings and BV - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

dongoesby · 05-28-2008, 03:00 PM

After lowering my S14, I found out it is necessery to change the stock suspension rods and arms. By reading a lot of articles, I really admire the constant improving products of SPL and customer service, and that makes it number one on my list. However, with the equal quality and high standard rod ends like QA1 and Aurora. It is hard to decide which brand I should go with, especially Peak Performance is $60 cheaper on outter tie rods.

Tie rods:
Peak: $169 (Aurora rod end)
SPL V4: $229 (QA1 rod end 65deg steering)

Toe rods:
SPL V2: $219
Bing: $160
Peak: $219
BV: $220

Also, Battle Version's package is $700 for RUCA, Toe and Traction rods.
Bing's package is $570 for the same three.

I keep hearing good things about SPL. From SPL website, their tie rods are durable and increase steering angle. I have never tried other brands myself; however, with my budget, I want to choose the best for a long run. I like a lot of mountain road drivings and track weekends. So if anyone have their products, please chime in and tell me about their driving differences and durability. Thanks!

5t341tH · 05-28-2008, 03:05 PM

those seem like hard choices to make. i would go with the cheaper alternative

. but remember, when u go too low, the toe arm and ruca might hit your car's frame. pbm has angled arms so it can prevent that. im not sure if any of the brands you listed are angled. good luck though.

*INeedNewTires* · 05-28-2008, 03:11 PM

unless you are going to go immediately to a shop, and have it PROFESSIONALLY aligned by someone who knows how to adjust bump steer and all that, i'd say go with Tein inner/outter combo. Nothing against SPL, they make an incredible product, but the heim outter tie rods are funny things and if not setup properly your doing yourself no good but spending extra money. Teins are stronger, no maintenence, have steering angle spacers, and are $150 shipped for inner and outter. I just put some in my car and LOVE them, drifting is quite a bit easier now when you get in really deep. On the other products SPL is king and your lucky you dont have to pay tax like us texans!

dongoesby · 05-28-2008, 03:40 PM

FYI, the SPL V4 outter tie rod ends require no maintanence too. It is self-lubricate.

I'd like to know people who use the metal spherical bearing compare to other rubber bushing. How does the driving feel and comfort wise?

Sileighty_85 · 05-28-2008, 04:03 PM

Battle Version FTW

*Dousan_PG* · 05-28-2008, 04:12 PM

SPL parts
for 2 big reasons!!

CUSTOMER SERVICE and SUPPORT!

spool_sample · 05-28-2008, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dousan_PG

SPL parts
for 2 big reasons!!

CUSTOMER SERVICE and SUPPORT!

+ eleventy billion.

az_240 · 05-28-2008, 04:21 PM

SPL is the shit! its what I use and I love em!

*!Zar!* · 05-28-2008, 04:42 PM

SPL.

Nothing else.

*INeedNewTires* · 05-28-2008, 04:43 PM

yea it says self lubricating, and no doubt it is, but when you look at it after a month or so, or a nice drift day, its caked with dirt and debris, and your going to want to spray it off with brake cleaner and then lube it up a bit. Thats how all heim joints are. you dont "have" to do it, but you probably should.

as for your other questions, i'm in an s14 and when i bought it it had completely stock suspension. Now I've replaced every single arm with a heim joint arm except for RLCA and its obviously quite stiffer, tracks better, no slop, but i still daily it every day and love it. great road feel, and response.

red240 · 05-28-2008, 04:45 PM

SPL has been great with customer service and standing behind there product AAA+++++

dongoesby · 05-28-2008, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by INeedNewTires

as for your other questions, i'm in an s14 and when i bought it it had completely stock suspension. Now I've replaced every single arm with a heim joint arm except for RLCA and its obviously quite stiffer, tracks better, no slop, but i still daily it every day and love it. great road feel, and response.

Thanks INeedNewTires. Is the ride become alot more harsh after you changed all with heim joints? I'm more of a mountain road driving person, so I don't want the ride to be extremely harsh.

As for Peak, no body in here use it??

Sileighty_85 · 05-28-2008, 05:44 PM

I use them, I love them no issues with them,
I just took a 800 mile trip on them, No problems, felt good.

I love the response on them

dongoesby · 05-28-2008, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sileighty_85

I use them, I love them no issues with them,
I just took a 800 mile trip on them, No problems, felt good.

I love the response on them

I thought you are Battle Version FTW! lol!!

SO how much of a steering angle your gained? Any pics it would be great!

A Spec Products · 05-28-2008, 05:54 PM

SPL or Battleversion

Fo sho

Peak isn't bad either, I run their traction and toe rods

Sileighty_85 · 05-28-2008, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dongoesby

I thought you are Battle Version FTW! lol!!

SO how much of a steering angle your gained? Any pics it would be great!

opps Sorry Brain fart, i just got gone runnin didnt read that one too well

***ThatGuy*** · 05-28-2008, 06:11 PM

Another vote for SPL Parts.

Kuah and company are awesome.

dongoesby · 05-28-2008, 06:34 PM

Despite the customer service and support from SPL, what about the quality and actual driving effects between these brands??

***ThatGuy*** · 05-28-2008, 06:37 PM

I've never heard of anyone having issues with SPL.

I live close to the beach (salty sea air) and see ALOT of rain, and I've not had any problems personally. Everything still looks shiny and new after at least a year and a half of driving.

oneviaman · 05-28-2008, 07:50 PM

spl for sure. if i break an arm or rod i can get replacement parts/hardware for a few bucks. if your going to "use" your car spl for life.

Teambadrun · 05-28-2008, 07:55 PM

Don't use pillowball end's on tie rods. they all fall unless you go Ikeya Formula.

Stick with Cusco for all the arms they generally last a long time!

*Dousan_PG* · 05-28-2008, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teambadrun

Don't use pillowball end's on tie rods. they all fall unless you go Ikeya Formula.

Stick with Cusco for all the arms they generally last a long time!

thats not true
ive used my spl for nearly 2 years
and they aer still awesome
regulary tracked too
and previously daily driven.

ikeya is overpriced jdm nonsense. as are most jtown parts.

az_240 · 05-28-2008, 09:08 PM

^werd.... SPL tie rod ends are the way to go... super durable and mine have no play whatsoever.

A friend of mine even hit a big ass curb in my car and everything on that passenger front was mangled.... SPL rod ENDS were fine.

dongoesby · 05-28-2008, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dongoesby

what about the quality and actual driving effects between these brands??

thanks guys!!!

Do you guys also daily drive your ride?

*OptionZero* · 05-28-2008, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dousan_PG

thats not true
ive used my spl for nearly 2 years
and they aer still awesome
regulary tracked too
and previously daily driven.

ikeya is overpriced jdm nonsense. as are most jtown parts.

see abovea sdfdsg

*FaLKoN240* · 05-28-2008, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dongoesby

thanks guys!!!

Do you guys also daily drive your ride?

I had Peak Performance outer tie rods, and the shank broke.

I sent my outer to Peak to get another replacement... that was 6 months ago, still no word. I've given up hope.

Some asshole hit my car and broke my SPL tie rod. I got another one shipped to my house that week.

GET SPL.

dongoesby · 05-28-2008, 10:34 PM

good reason enough to convince me to buy SPL, FaLKoN240!!

How did your break the shank from Peak??

Bushido · 05-28-2008, 11:55 PM

i'd say spl for the steering and part shop max for the sus links.

kandyflip445 · 05-28-2008, 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dousan_PG

SPL parts
for 2 big reasons!!

CUSTOMER SERVICE and SUPPORT!

Done and done.

redsuns3838 · 05-29-2008, 12:07 AM

go with SPL or BV. both stand by their products.

SPL has great customer service whenever i've dealt with them
BV is also very good, and alex is a great welder and stands behind his products.

05-28-2008, 03:00 PM	#1
dongoesby Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Francisco Age: 22 Posts: 503 Trader Rating: (11)	Help choose rods and arms: SPL, Peak, Bings and BV After lowering my S14, I found out it is necessery to change the stock suspension rods and arms. By reading a lot of articles, I really admire the constant improving products of SPL and customer service, and that makes it number one on my list. However, with the equal quality and high standard rod ends like QA1 and Aurora. It is hard to decide which brand I should go with, especially Peak Performance is $60 cheaper on outter tie rods. Tie rods: Peak: $169 (Aurora rod end) SPL V4: $229 (QA1 rod end 65deg steering) Toe rods: SPL V2: $219 Bing: $160 Peak: $219 BV: $220 Also, Battle Version's package is $700 for RUCA, Toe and Traction rods. Bing's package is $570 for the same three. I keep hearing good things about SPL. From SPL website, their tie rods are durable and increase steering angle. I have never tried other brands myself; however, with my budget, I want to choose the best for a long run. I like a lot of mountain road drivings and track weekends. So if anyone have their products, please chime in and tell me about their driving differences and durability. Thanks!

05-28-2008, 03:05 PM	#2
5t341tH Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: socal (Huntington Beach) Age: 21 Posts: 2,299 Trader Rating: (10)	those seem like hard choices to make. i would go with the cheaper alternative . but remember, when u go too low, the toe arm and ruca might hit your car's frame. pbm has angled arms so it can prevent that. im not sure if any of the brands you listed are angled. good luck though. __________________ lexus baby

05-28-2008, 03:11 PM	#3
INeedNewTires Premium Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Dallas, TX Age: 24 Posts: 1,299 Trader Rating: (3) Rides Gallery: INeedNewTires	unless you are going to go immediately to a shop, and have it PROFESSIONALLY aligned by someone who knows how to adjust bump steer and all that, i'd say go with Tein inner/outter combo. Nothing against SPL, they make an incredible product, but the heim outter tie rods are funny things and if not setup properly your doing yourself no good but spending extra money. Teins are stronger, no maintenence, have steering angle spacers, and are $150 shipped for inner and outter. I just put some in my car and LOVE them, drifting is quite a bit easier now when you get in really deep. On the other products SPL is king and your lucky you dont have to pay tax like us texans! __________________ Signature exceeds forum limit.

05-28-2008, 03:40 PM	#4
dongoesby Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Francisco Age: 22 Posts: 503 Trader Rating: (11)	FYI, the SPL V4 outter tie rod ends require no maintanence too. It is self-lubricate. I'd like to know people who use the metal spherical bearing compare to other rubber bushing. How does the driving feel and comfort wise? Last edited by dongoesby; 05-28-2008 at 03:53 PM. Reason: word

05-28-2008, 04:03 PM	#5
Sileighty_85 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Wishing Back in Okinawa -_- Posts: 2,323 Trader Rating: (0)	Battle Version FTW __________________ 後輪駆動車１番 1991 Built SR GT2871R -363whp 1998 S14 W/RB25- Rebuild in Progress

05-28-2008, 04:12 PM	#6
Dousan_PG Pink GodziRa Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 30 Posts: 16,322 Trader Rating: (10) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG	SPL parts for 2 big reasons!! CUSTOMER SERVICE and SUPPORT! __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

05-28-2008, 04:21 PM	#8
az_240 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Gilbert, AZ Age: 24 Posts: 867 Trader Rating: (1)	SPL is the shit! its what I use and I love em!

05-28-2008, 04:42 PM	#9
!Zar! Ezel verkrachtende schijteter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Milf Valley Posts: 9,450 Trader Rating: (2)	SPL. Nothing else. __________________ -=Mel=-

05-28-2008, 04:43 PM	#10
INeedNewTires Premium Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Dallas, TX Age: 24 Posts: 1,299 Trader Rating: (3) Rides Gallery: INeedNewTires	yea it says self lubricating, and no doubt it is, but when you look at it after a month or so, or a nice drift day, its caked with dirt and debris, and your going to want to spray it off with brake cleaner and then lube it up a bit. Thats how all heim joints are. you dont "have" to do it, but you probably should. as for your other questions, i'm in an s14 and when i bought it it had completely stock suspension. Now I've replaced every single arm with a heim joint arm except for RLCA and its obviously quite stiffer, tracks better, no slop, but i still daily it every day and love it. great road feel, and response. __________________ Signature exceeds forum limit.

05-28-2008, 04:45 PM	#11
red240 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 322 Trader Rating: (3)	SPL has been great with customer service and standing behind there product AAA+++++

05-28-2008, 05:44 PM	#13
Sileighty_85 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Wishing Back in Okinawa -_- Posts: 2,323 Trader Rating: (0)	I use them, I love them no issues with them, I just took a 800 mile trip on them, No problems, felt good. I love the response on them __________________ 後輪駆動車１番 1991 Built SR GT2871R -363whp 1998 S14 W/RB25- Rebuild in Progress

05-28-2008, 05:54 PM	#15
A Spec Products Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Socal! Off 60/605 Posts: 7,114 Trader Rating: (17)	SPL or Battleversion Fo sho Peak isn't bad either, I run their traction and toe rods __________________ A SPEC PRODUCTS CORP AME Wheels, Advan, ARC, Gram Lights, Nardi, Personal, Recaro, Works Bell, Work Wheels, Volk Racing, 5Zigen, & more! 626.618.1100 x 110 / aim: aspectuan Advertiser's Specials! Read / Give Feedback! Please Rate Us!

05-28-2008, 06:11 PM	#17
*ThatGuy* Zilvia's Grumpy Old Man Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: MCAS New River, NC Age: 30 Posts: 17,107 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: ThatGuy	Another vote for SPL Parts. Kuah and company are awesome. __________________ YES, I have a 240sx. NO, it doesn't have an SR. NO, I don't drift. NO, it's not for sale!

05-28-2008, 06:34 PM	#18
dongoesby Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Francisco Age: 22 Posts: 503 Trader Rating: (11)	Despite the customer service and support from SPL, what about the quality and actual driving effects between these brands??

05-28-2008, 06:37 PM	#19
*ThatGuy* Zilvia's Grumpy Old Man Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: MCAS New River, NC Age: 30 Posts: 17,107 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: ThatGuy	I've never heard of anyone having issues with SPL. I live close to the beach (salty sea air) and see ALOT of rain, and I've not had any problems personally. Everything still looks shiny and new after at least a year and a half of driving. __________________ YES, I have a 240sx. NO, it doesn't have an SR. NO, I don't drift. NO, it's not for sale!

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05-28-2008, 07:50 PM	#20
oneviaman Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: oakland park,fl Age: 24 Posts: 100 Trader Rating: (0)	spl for sure. if i break an arm or rod i can get replacement parts/hardware for a few bucks. if your going to "use" your car spl for life.

05-28-2008, 07:55 PM	#21
Teambadrun Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Melbourne,Australia Age: 30 Posts: 599 Trader Rating: (1)	Don't use pillowball end's on tie rods. they all fall unless you go Ikeya Formula. Stick with Cusco for all the arms they generally last a long time!

05-28-2008, 09:08 PM	#23
az_240 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Gilbert, AZ Age: 24 Posts: 867 Trader Rating: (1)	^werd.... SPL tie rod ends are the way to go... super durable and mine have no play whatsoever. A friend of mine even hit a big ass curb in my car and everything on that passenger front was mangled.... SPL rod ENDS were fine.

05-28-2008, 10:34 PM	#27
dongoesby Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Francisco Age: 22 Posts: 503 Trader Rating: (11)	good reason enough to convince me to buy SPL, FaLKoN240!! How did your break the shank from Peak??

05-28-2008, 11:55 PM	#28
Bushido Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Gainesville/Fort Lauderdale Posts: 1,266 Trader Rating: (0)	i'd say spl for the steering and part shop max for the sus links. __________________

05-29-2008, 12:07 AM	#30
redsuns3838 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: socal =) Posts: 948 Trader Rating: (0)	go with SPL or BV. both stand by their products. SPL has great customer service whenever i've dealt with them BV is also very good, and alex is a great welder and stands behind his products. __________________ FS: my 240sx, black, socal, SR, mods PM me for link to thread.

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