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*GSXRJJordan* · 05-29-2008, 12:45 AM

I bought my S14 with Battle Version tension rods already installed, and they definitely look to be the best quality. Aurora ends too. I was planning on getting SPL pieces for the rest, but then read AceInHole's writeup on using cheap arms with top rated heim joints I can get online - their M16x2.00 heim joints are rated the same as the Aurora ends, and we've both had good luck with them so far...

The big problem with cheap suspension pieces is that the ends bind and then the piece breaks from the added stress - the upgraded end's "should" make the cheap stuff work as well... not to mention the 'cheap' arms can be found for 1/4 the price, and the heim joints are ~$10/ea including shipping when you order a 6 or 8.

I'll be sure to post up if I ever have problems with them ~

*drift freaq* · 05-29-2008, 01:14 AM

Another voter for SPL I have their version II TC rods and Z32 inner ties with the SPL outers. Customer service is top notch.

*FaLKoN240* · 05-29-2008, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by dongoesby

good reason enough to convince me to buy SPL, FaLKoN240!!

How did your break the shank from Peak??

I broke it parking... after the like 4th day of having it AFTER I got aligned. I was pretty mad.

Yeah just get SPL, their shit is the jam... never broke on me while parking and I daily drive it.

dongoesby · 05-29-2008, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by FaLKoN240

I broke it parking... after the like 4th day of having it AFTER I got aligned. I was pretty mad.

Yeah just get SPL, their shit is the jam... never broke on me while parking and I daily drive it.

have you hitted anything, a curb as such?

dongoesby · 05-29-2008, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by GSXRJJordan

I bought my S14 with Battle Version tension rods already installed, and they definitely look to be the best quality. Aurora ends too. I was planning on getting SPL pieces for the rest, but then read AceInHole's writeup on using cheap arms with Midwest Control heim joints - their M16x2.00 heim joints are rated the same as the Aurora ends, and we've both had good luck with them so far...

that sounds like a very good alternative option. Around how much is the overall cost for a complete outter tie rod or tc rod?

*GSXRJJordan* · 05-29-2008, 02:55 AM

I didn't do tie rods, because I believe that high quality tie rod ends are crucial (I like steering) - also didn't do tension rods, because I already had Battle Version (came with my shell) - but it's the same deal as any of the other arms, just buy the cheap Motoria/ebay/Godspeed/whatever arms and replace the heim joints with the units I can get. Cost of the heims is about $20/ea by the time they get to ya and the arms can be found as low as $50/set sometimes.

I'm not saying it's for everyone, but I believe it's a viable alternative and am willing to try it for the benefit of the community

Edit: people have been asking me about this, and I can't get the super cheap ones any more... Chrome-moly, teflon race, 17,000 lb static load strength are what I can get now.

dongoesby · 05-29-2008, 03:48 AM

definitely let us know how it goes. For $60 total cost of a complete rod verses $200+ of high quality product, it seems a very good option!

Teambadrun · 05-29-2008, 06:14 AM

I bet your tie rod ends have play.. Ikeya formula is actually extremely CHEAP.. check out yahoo auctions...

dongoesby · 05-29-2008, 06:50 AM

for some reason, yahoo auction is closed down. And I found Ikeya formula extremely EXPENSIVE! way out of my budget.

Sway500 · 05-29-2008, 10:36 AM

I will also vouch for SPL. They have the best customer service ever.

*INeedNewTires* · 05-29-2008, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by dongoesby

I thought you are Battle Version FTW! lol!!

SO how much of a steering angle your gained? Any pics it would be great!

enough difference to go from drifting okay, to drifting deep and saving shit i would never guess could be saved, also rub in reverse at full lock different, BIG difference.........

I prefer the feel now over OEM even daily on shitty dallas roads. yes its a bit rough, yes its stiff, and yes i love it. wouldnt go back!

05-29-2008, 12:45 AM	#31
GSXRJJordan [JEFE S14] Join Date: May 2006 Location: << 626 >> Posts: 7,191 Trader Rating: (14) Rides Gallery: GSXRJJordan	I bought my S14 with Battle Version tension rods already installed, and they definitely look to be the best quality. Aurora ends too. I was planning on getting SPL pieces for the rest, but then read AceInHole's writeup on using cheap arms with top rated heim joints I can get online - their M16x2.00 heim joints are rated the same as the Aurora ends, and we've both had good luck with them so far... The big problem with cheap suspension pieces is that the ends bind and then the piece breaks from the added stress - the upgraded end's "should" make the cheap stuff work as well... not to mention the 'cheap' arms can be found for 1/4 the price, and the heim joints are ~$10/ea including shipping when you order a 6 or 8. I'll be sure to post up if I ever have problems with them ~ __________________ TEAM SUSPECT is alive. www.JordanInnovations.com* Last edited by GSXRJJordan; 06-02-2008 at 02:23 PM.

05-29-2008, 01:14 AM	#32
drift freaq Hey, that's my Passport, Aya ! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Hollywoooood! Posts: 12,350 Trader Rating: (70) Rides Gallery: drift freaq	Another voter for SPL I have their version II TC rods and Z32 inner ties with the SPL outers. Customer service is top notch. __________________ 1991 Azzurro California Metallic S13.5 VQ35HR project in the works! 1993.5 INFINITI G20 86k Current Daily(Gas Saver) FS:http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/27547...ne-mounts.html

05-29-2008, 02:55 AM	#36
GSXRJJordan [JEFE S14] Join Date: May 2006 Location: << 626 >> Posts: 7,191 Trader Rating: (14) Rides Gallery: GSXRJJordan	I didn't do tie rods, because I believe that high quality tie rod ends are crucial (I like steering) - also didn't do tension rods, because I already had Battle Version (came with my shell) - but it's the same deal as any of the other arms, just buy the cheap Motoria/ebay/Godspeed/whatever arms and replace the heim joints with the units I can get. Cost of the heims is about $20/ea by the time they get to ya and the arms can be found as low as $50/set sometimes. I'm not saying it's for everyone, but I believe it's a viable alternative and am willing to try it for the benefit of the community Edit: people have been asking me about this, and I can't get the super cheap ones any more... Chrome-moly, teflon race, 17,000 lb static load strength are what I can get now. __________________ TEAM SUSPECT is alive. www.JordanInnovations.com* Last edited by GSXRJJordan; 06-02-2008 at 02:26 PM.

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05-29-2008, 03:48 AM	#37
dongoesby Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Francisco Age: 22 Posts: 508 Trader Rating: (11)	definitely let us know how it goes. For $60 total cost of a complete rod verses $200+ of high quality product, it seems a very good option!

05-29-2008, 06:14 AM	#38
Teambadrun Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Melbourne,Australia Age: 30 Posts: 599 Trader Rating: (1)	I bet your tie rod ends have play.. Ikeya formula is actually extremely CHEAP.. check out yahoo auctions...

05-29-2008, 06:50 AM	#39
dongoesby Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Francisco Age: 22 Posts: 508 Trader Rating: (11)	for some reason, yahoo auction is closed down. And I found Ikeya formula extremely EXPENSIVE! way out of my budget.

05-29-2008, 10:36 AM	#40
Sway500 Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Greensboro NC Age: 23 Posts: 178 Trader Rating: (0)	I will also vouch for SPL. They have the best customer service ever.