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driftstyre · 08-11-2008, 05:44 PM

Def,
They are Aeroquip. I am not sure exactly where they came from but I've seen them on military aircraft and thats where they supposedly came from. They were probably made as bespoke items for a specific plane. Used, you can pick these up for a decent cost, just have to look around for them. There is a tiny bit of leakage but no air is let into the system so if it were coolant or brakes, no bleeding is necessary. If you look at a relitively modern WRC there are about 100 quick disconnects throughout the car. The money adds up when new but second hand they are a great option. Jiffy-tite connections are pretty cheap for the quality of the parts. I think a -8 disconnect is $50 for both sides. A Staubli on the other hand is 130 for each side.

What do you use the AE Aeroquip stuff on? Whatever it is, it must be cool

Quote:

Originally Posted by Def

What kind of quick disconnects are those? I work with Aeroquip's AE series at work. The pressure drop on some of the smaller ones is pretty high, so I wonder what other QDs are like when it comes to thinks like oiling/water cooling. Once you get to a -16 size I'd bet the pressure drop on most is pretty inconsequential.

Well... and the fact that one half of even the -4 size is over $800/each kind of makes them not an option for automotive usage. Don't don't allow ANY air into the system, which I hear is a big pickle with some QDs.

*GSXRJJordan* · 08-11-2008, 06:47 PM

Thanks for the heads up on the used QD's! I'd always assumed that kind of "specialty" stuff would be quite a bit cheaper second hand, but where do you find a decent selection? Online? Airplane graveyards?

driftstyre · 08-21-2008, 07:45 AM

Exciting News!! Low boost tuning was completed last night! From the gains made by increasing boost in increments of 1 psi the power goals for the maxi should be well within reach. The twin scroll combined with the head porting (by head dynamics) has really shown some great power under the curve. It looks like up top the 264s might be holding it back a bit but the transient response of this turbo is insane. Matt Koestner again performed the awesome calibration for the Autronic and made everything look like a breeze. The precision core is absolutely insane in cooling the charge temp. At steady state, maybe 8 lbs or so, the hot side is literally too hot to touch and the cold side is cool, almost ambient. Cooling with the new fans and Davies microprocessor for the pump allowed complete steady state tuning with absolutely no let up for coolant temps. So, at 17 lbs, 373whp was achieved with excellent torque. I don't have the autronic boost control set up yet so I had a hallman on there. The electronic control should allow for some adjustment in the initial ramp up in boost. Once I get a few small things ironed out, I will head for 25 lbs. Just as a gauge, a V10 stock M5 makes 386whp and a stock 2.0 WRX makes 160-165whp on our dyno.

SicBastard · 08-21-2008, 11:00 AM

v10?!...

We don't need no stinking v10!

How much smoothing is on that dyno graph? The ramp up is way more linear than what you'd expect from a 400+ hp 2.0L. Great work.

DisEpyon · 08-21-2008, 12:48 PM

Are those ITBs you are using?

Very sexy work my friend, cant wait to see some vids of that beast.

driftstyre · 08-21-2008, 01:09 PM

DisEpyon,
They are throttle bodies, very modified GTiR ones

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt3SqmF8OcA

forum04pl · 08-21-2008, 01:21 PM

2011 prototype 240rs, good one "billy"

haha, looking sick bill.

wow-thats-a-cool-car · 08-21-2008, 02:18 PM

I <3 your car
I'm subscribed
But we need more pictures of the whole car

*DJButton* · 08-21-2008, 02:21 PM

Awesome! Love the set-up, can't wait to check it out in person!

*Maximamike* · 08-21-2008, 05:30 PM

Pipe colored nicely and I bought another 240 hatch. Uh-oh.

kuruptR · 08-21-2008, 05:44 PM

amazaang...........

idahotuner · 08-21-2008, 06:22 PM

awesome build man. seems like an awefull amount of customizing for such low numbers and power. what are the goals with this build?

forum04pl · 08-21-2008, 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by idahotuner

awesome build man. seems like an awefull amount of customizing for such low numbers and power. what are the goals with this build?

Power isn't all that low, he's on low boost on that map and more is to be had. Remember this is a DD dyno. Plus power to weight is his friend

*DJButton* · 08-21-2008, 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by idahotuner

awesome build man. seems like an awefull amount of customizing for such low numbers and power. what are the goals with this build?

Remember Ben, that's on the low boost set-up! Just preliminary tuning.

Xracer · 08-22-2008, 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by idahotuner

awesome build man. seems like an awefull amount of customizing for such low numbers and power. what are the goals with this build?

One must remember that a dyno is a tuning tool. The power numbers produced from it are only relative to how the dyno is calibrated. You could take the same car to a different dyno and it may make 400whp, or 320whp for that matter.

*blu808* · 08-22-2008, 01:37 AM

I am speechless.

owowowoow.

David Steele · 08-22-2008, 03:00 AM

I got a question is there such a fitting thats quick disconnect and doesn't allwt fluid to drip out of the hose?

Firestorm · 08-22-2008, 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Steele

I got a question is there such a fitting thats quick disconnect and doesn't allwt fluid to drip out of the hose?

that's what the staubli fittings are for

those orange things in the pictures

but those are hella expensive.

95KA-Turbo · 08-22-2008, 10:37 AM

Look at all that fun between 4200 and 5000rpms

.

I hope I can see this in person at VIR again. Are you planning on running the HPDE in December? I am hoping my car will be together with the bilsteins and all by then!

Xracer · 08-22-2008, 11:46 AM

Are you only revving out to 6800? Or is that just for now?

0100 · 08-22-2008, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by driftstyre

YouTube - 240RS Maxi E2 Dyno @ Low Boost

Holy Fuck!

rightcoastimports · 08-22-2008, 11:59 PM

great work as always fellas... cant wait to see the 25lb run!

*blu808* · 08-23-2008, 12:49 AM

This video of your car on this uber unsafe track made me happy in pants.

YouTube - Dent Sport Garage 240RS Maxi Okemo Run 2

David Steele · 08-23-2008, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firestorm

that's what the staubli fittings are for

those orange things in the pictures

but those are hella expensive.

Thanks. I've been looking for those for a while I just don't remember the name of them + rep. because I'll pay good money for that.

driftstyre · 08-23-2008, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blu808

This video of your car on this uber unsafe track made me happy in pants.

YouTube - Dent Sport Garage 240RS Maxi Okemo Run 2

It was sweaty in my pants on that one. I only had a 3 layer nomex suit that I originally got for winter rallies. It's not too nice in the summer, though if I were burning alive, I would probably love it. Did you get the FC up to full power yet? It will probably be slow

s13dan · 08-23-2008, 02:18 PM

I saw that machine do a run on okemo and it was badass, i love that car. looks scary but thats half the fun.

David Steele · 08-23-2008, 09:32 PM

What happened in this photo?

IMG_2250

driftstyre · 08-24-2008, 01:34 PM

that was a diff assplosion at the hillclimb. There are lots of areas where one wheel is off the ground.

*blu808* · 08-24-2008, 01:52 PM

Im about to do a run of cryo treated diffs, rings, pinions, etc. Do you want to get one?

Firestorm · 08-24-2008, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blu808

Im about to do a run of cryo treated diffs, rings, pinions, etc. Do you want to get one?

what's the benefit of doing this? just curios.

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08-21-2008, 07:45 AM	#123
driftstyre Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Boston Age: 30 Posts: 722 Trader Rating: (4)	Exciting News!! Low boost tuning was completed last night! From the gains made by increasing boost in increments of 1 psi the power goals for the maxi should be well within reach. The twin scroll combined with the head porting (by head dynamics) has really shown some great power under the curve. It looks like up top the 264s might be holding it back a bit but the transient response of this turbo is insane. Matt Koestner again performed the awesome calibration for the Autronic and made everything look like a breeze. The precision core is absolutely insane in cooling the charge temp. At steady state, maybe 8 lbs or so, the hot side is literally too hot to touch and the cold side is cool, almost ambient. Cooling with the new fans and Davies microprocessor for the pump allowed complete steady state tuning with absolutely no let up for coolant temps. So, at 17 lbs, 373whp was achieved with excellent torque. I don't have the autronic boost control set up yet so I had a hallman on there. The electronic control should allow for some adjustment in the initial ramp up in boost. Once I get a few small things ironed out, I will head for 25 lbs. Just as a gauge, a V10 stock M5 makes 386whp and a stock 2.0 WRX makes 160-165whp on our dyno. __________________ Dent Sport Garage Norwood, MA 781-551-3399 www.dentsport.com Motorsport Service and Fabrication In-House Dyno Dynamics AWD Dyno

08-21-2008, 11:00 AM	#124
SicBastard Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Clifton, NJ Posts: 363 Trader Rating: (0)	v10?!... We don't need no stinking v10! How much smoothing is on that dyno graph? The ramp up is way more linear than what you'd expect from a 400+ hp 2.0L. Great work. __________________ BURN OUT IN YOUR FACE! 1998 S14 LS7/T56 swap in progress, build thread: http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/147301...d-gto-pan.html Last edited by SicBastard; 08-21-2008 at 01:00 PM.

08-21-2008, 12:48 PM	#125
DisEpyon Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: ? Posts: 480 Trader Rating: (0)	Are those ITBs you are using? Very sexy work my friend, cant wait to see some vids of that beast. __________________

08-21-2008, 01:09 PM	#126
driftstyre Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Boston Age: 30 Posts: 722 Trader Rating: (4)	DisEpyon, They are throttle bodies, very modified GTiR ones http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt3SqmF8OcA __________________ Dent Sport Garage Norwood, MA 781-551-3399 www.dentsport.com Motorsport Service and Fabrication In-House Dyno Dynamics AWD Dyno

08-21-2008, 01:21 PM	#127
forum04pl Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: boston Posts: 553 Trader Rating: (10)	2011 prototype 240rs, good one "billy" haha, looking sick bill.

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08-21-2008, 02:21 PM	#129
DJButton Hooked 0n Phonicz! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NH, USA Age: 23 Posts: 428 Trader Rating: (0)	Awesome! Love the set-up, can't wait to check it out in person! __________________ New website! http://www.fujiispl.com Post up YOUR CAR! http://www.rimtuck.com/

08-21-2008, 05:30 PM	#130
Maximamike Premium Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Stoughton, MA Posts: 333 Trader Rating: (0)	Pipe colored nicely and I bought another 240 hatch. Uh-oh.

08-21-2008, 05:44 PM	#131
kuruptR Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UpNorth Posts: 920 Trader Rating: (1)	amazaang...........

08-21-2008, 06:22 PM	#132
idahotuner Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: St. Maries, Idaho Age: 21 Posts: 592 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: idahotuner	awesome build man. seems like an awefull amount of customizing for such low numbers and power. what are the goals with this build? __________________ http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...ilviasiggy.jpg

08-22-2008, 01:37 AM	#136
blu808 Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: SPACE Age: 26 Posts: 4,702 Trader Rating: (1)	I am speechless. owowowoow. __________________ I NEED A S14 INNER DOOR LATCH. Driver side. If you have one PM me ASAP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WWW.BLU808.COM

08-22-2008, 03:00 AM	#137
David Steele Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Florida Altamonte Springs Posts: 153 Trader Rating: (0)	I got a question is there such a fitting thats quick disconnect and doesn't allwt fluid to drip out of the hose?

08-22-2008, 10:37 AM	#139
95KA-Turbo Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: VA Age: 24 Posts: 1,093 Trader Rating: (10)	Look at all that fun between 4200 and 5000rpms . I hope I can see this in person at VIR again. Are you planning on running the HPDE in December? I am hoping my car will be together with the bilsteins and all by then! __________________ My Blog - knoop.sumospeed.com

08-22-2008, 11:46 AM	#140
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08-22-2008, 11:59 PM	#142
rightcoastimports Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Boston Age: 25 Posts: 381 Trader Rating: (2)	great work as always fellas... cant wait to see the 25lb run! __________________ RCI::: Dealer for Ksport & Agency Power 95 S14 SR pwr'd::: 03 Spec V 400hp::: Sold 9/08 92 S13::: Sold 7/06 CarDomain

08-23-2008, 12:49 AM	#143
blu808 Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: SPACE Age: 26 Posts: 4,702 Trader Rating: (1)	This video of your car on this uber unsafe track made me happy in pants. YouTube - Dent Sport Garage 240RS Maxi Okemo Run 2 __________________ I NEED A S14 INNER DOOR LATCH. Driver side. If you have one PM me ASAP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WWW.BLU808.COM

08-23-2008, 02:18 PM	#146
s13dan Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Springfield, Mo Posts: 1,158 Trader Rating: (2)	I saw that machine do a run on okemo and it was badass, i love that car. looks scary but thats half the fun.

08-23-2008, 09:32 PM	#147
David Steele Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Florida Altamonte Springs Posts: 153 Trader Rating: (0)	What happened in this photo? IMG_2250

08-24-2008, 01:34 PM	#148
driftstyre Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Boston Age: 30 Posts: 722 Trader Rating: (4)	that was a diff assplosion at the hillclimb. There are lots of areas where one wheel is off the ground. __________________ Dent Sport Garage Norwood, MA 781-551-3399 www.dentsport.com Motorsport Service and Fabrication In-House Dyno Dynamics AWD Dyno

08-24-2008, 01:52 PM	#149
blu808 Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: SPACE Age: 26 Posts: 4,702 Trader Rating: (1)	Im about to do a run of cryo treated diffs, rings, pinions, etc. Do you want to get one? __________________ I NEED A S14 INNER DOOR LATCH. Driver side. If you have one PM me ASAP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WWW.BLU808.COM

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