Maximum TIRE(Rubber) fitment thread

[reed1285]

Originally Posted by 240sxScores

He means using the word "stretch" in the Maximum tire thread according to him bans you from it. Because there is no such thing as a stretched maximum tire lol. Unless you refer to the widest tire made (345/30?) having slight stretch on viper wheels.

ok thanks for clarifying that for me, i was like wtf? if its not called a "stretch" then what do you call it lol

Originally Posted by SicBastard

Look, I've said it a million and ones time in this 60 page thread.

Step 1: go to the tire manufacturers web site
Step 2: find the reccomended wheel widths of the tire you want to run under "specs"
Step 3: If you actually belong posting in this thread, you'll choose the widest possible tire that is safe to run on whatever wheels you happen to have/are able to afford that day.

Here's the spec sheet for the Kumho XS, my favorite street tire for the time being.

Kumho Ecsta XS

According to it you can safely run a 255/40/17 (I presume you're running 17s cuz you never bothered to mention). You can also safely "stretch" (such an ugly word) a 225/45/17. Now if you want to hop on over to club roadster, or vortec (where I think you belong) I'm sure you'll find lots of happy kids stretching 185s from pep boys on all kinds of sweet 8.5" wide rimz, and telling you it'll be fine.

The 335/35/17 XS (according to the same chart) would be "stretched" but still safe on a 13" wide wheel.

Ironically I wouldn't have suggested your banishment had you asked about stretching that a tire on a 13" wide wheel. But you want to stretch a tire on a 8.5" wheel. My girlfriends jetta has wider wheels.

thanks for the info, i think you have me confused with somebody who just wants to look cool or something with his "stretched" tires. and no i got 18's, not 17's, like you "assumed"

the sole purpose why i asked is because i dont want any rubbing issues for when i finally do get the jack saved up for coilovers, and its alot lower than it is now. on top of that im gonna be running spacers up front and back too, thanks again for the info

[SuicidnS13]

rubbing is the least of your problems whether your maximum fit or flush fit. man uo and tuck that shit... smoke is all just more for the show

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[GtoRx7]

Originally Posted by simmode1

^^^I meant up front. Obviously 17x9+30 isn't hard to fit in the back...

And wtf happened to that thing?

I meant you would need a coilover shaped like this.

[SuicidnS13]

Shot my friends Rb25 S14 before he parts it out due to financial reasons and wanting to start fresh.... Definately belongs in this thread

Man was it windy out yesterday...

Jasons S14 by SuicidnS13, on Flickr

Jasons Interior by SuicidnS13, on Flickr

Jasons Lip by SuicidnS13, on Flickr

Jasons Muff Shot by SuicidnS13, on Flickr

[JL240]

I want that Custom 3 gauge setup

To stay on topic i just order some nitto 555r tires 285/35/18 for my 18x10s can anyone give me an idea how thats gonna look on a wheel or a wheel on s14 thanks

[Skilz10179]

I'm getting ready to order a set of CCW Wheels for my S14 but im a little nervous about the exact fitment i want so i've been reading this thread and rimtuck.com over the last few but still can't find exactly what I'm looking for... I want to run 18x10 +20 wrapped in 255/35's on all four corners, i do not want to run staggered sizes front to rear. The main thing that worries me is the clearance between the wheel and the front coilover body. I don't want to run a lower offset unless i absolutely have to because i don't want the wheels poking out too far for my taste or to have major rubbing issues with the 255's. Anyone running the same or similar specs that I'm interested in? Any info or insight would be appreciated.

[axiomatik]

Here's 18x10 +3:

Originally Posted by bunny13

xxr 521's 18x10 +25 all around

22mm spacers at all four corners

215/35 front
215/40 rear

rolled fenders, no pull

18x10 -20 will stick out an additional 23mm (~1"). You didn't mention if it was stock fender or not.

Or did you mean 18x10 +20?

[Skilz10179]

Originally Posted by axiomatik

Here's 18x10 +3:



18x10 -20 will stick out an additional 23mm (~1"). You didn't mention if it was stock fender or not.

Or did you mean 18x10 +20?

I ment to say 18x10 +20, its a bitch to go back and proof read a post from my phone lol!

Might as well post up my current set up...

Front 17x9 +10 (with spacers) in 245/40/17
Rear 17x9.5 +15 (with spacers) in 275/40/17
Stock metal with rolled and pulled rears.



The biggest offset I've found so far on a S14 with a 10" rim up front is +16, i'm still worried a +20 might hit the coilover...

[bshotts]

Originally Posted by Skilz10179

I ment to say 18x10 +20, its a bitch to go back and proof read a post from my phone lol!

Might as well post up my current set up...

Front 17x9 +10 (with spacers) in 245/40/17
Rear 17x9.5 +15 (with spacers) in 275/40/17
Stock metal with rolled and pulled rears.



The biggest offset I've found so far on a S14 with a 10" rim up front is +16, i'm still worried a +20 might hit the coilover...

I had the same dillema when I had 18x10 et+22 Work Equips up front before I sold them a couple years back. I found through endless searching just as you have the 18x10 et+16 is the deepest inset wheel to clear coilovers, but I found this can depend heavily on coil manufacturer. To play it safe, the largest backspace is about 152mm, i.e. an et+12 with some variation in wheel width and again coil manufacturer. You are looking for a a +20, so you'd need at minimum an 8mm spacer, maybe you could squeek by with a 5mm, but don't take my word as absolute authority. Kouki looks absolutely gorgeous too, great wheel fitment, and use of max rubber my friend! Happy motoring!

[SuicidnS13]

Originally Posted by Skilz10179

I ment to say 18x10 +20, its a bitch to go back and proof read a post from my phone lol!

Might as well post up my current set up...

Front 17x9 +10 (with spacers) in 245/40/17
Rear 17x9.5 +15 (with spacers) in 275/40/17
Stock metal with rolled and pulled rears.


The biggest offset I've found so far on a S14 with a 10" rim up front is +16, i'm still worried a +20 might hit the coilover...

Nice kouki my friend... Too bad Im not going with Max fitment this time around as its just gonna be a hard parker...

[GripTerror]

wth those are stretched tires wrong thread lol get some rubber

[Skilz10179]

Originally Posted by bshotts

I had the same dillema when I had 18x10 et+22 Work Equips up front before I sold them a couple years back. I found through endless searching just as you have the 18x10 et+16 is the deepest inset wheel to clear coilovers, but I found this can depend heavily on coil manufacturer. To play it safe, the largest backspace is about 152mm, i.e. an et+12 with some variation in wheel width and again coil manufacturer. You are looking for a a +20, so you'd need at minimum an 8mm spacer, maybe you could squeek by with a 5mm, but don't take my word as absolute authority. Kouki looks absolutely gorgeous too, great wheel fitment, and use of max rubber my friend! Happy motoring!

The coilovers I'm running are Stance GR+ Pro's. I think I'll just end up going with 18x10 +15 wrapped in 255/35's on all four corners, its going to be a tight fit up front for sure! The wheels are going to be CCW Classics in full polish. I've been searching everywhere to find pics of these wheels on a S14 but I've one found one so far and it didn't even list wheel specs...

[bshotts]

Originally Posted by Skilz10179

The coilovers I'm running are Stance GR+ Pro's. I think I'll just end up going with 18x10 +15 wrapped in 255/35's on all four corners, its going to be a tight fit up front for sure! The wheels are going to be CCW Classics in full polish. I've been searching everywhere to find pics of these wheels on a S14 but I've one found one so far and it didn't even list wheel specs...

Ok great, I run the GR+ Pros on my Zenki, and right now have 152mm backspace using a 18x9 et+24 with 255/35 and clear by only a few mm. Considering you are Kouki and the front fenders allow for more clearance than Zenkis, you should be able to tuck a 10 +15 with 255 with a roll and some minor camber. Keep us updated there sir! Don't see too many S chassis with CCW Classics.

[Skilz10179]

Finally made up my mind on my new wheel and tire set up but first some pics of my old shit...






My offical new wheels and tires will be 18x9.5 +10 wrapped in 245/35's up front and 18x11 +25 wrapped in 275/35's in the butt. CCW Classic streets in full polish and BFG KDW's. Pics coming soon!

[trigjones]

In need of some serious advice on my set-up. I made a stupid choice and thought stretched tires were cool. They look alright, but I hate burning through tires due to camber wear, hate not having sidewall flex, hate how rough they ride. I love the look of big square tires, and have two options. Recently bought a set of the following aftermarket arms (RUCA, toe, traction, tie rods, and already have Tein tension rods) so I can adjust camber and toe.

My tire guy thinks I should sell the Rpf1s and get some Drag DR31's, knockoff CR Kai's, in 17x9 +28, and is pretty sure I could run 245/40's all around. Would be a definite downgrade from a nice light whell to a 23 lb one. But at $100 a piece instead of $300, wouldn't be as worried about curb rash.

Or, I was thinking keep the rpf1's, and do 20mm and 30mm over fenders, and with square tires could maybe do 245's up front and 265 or 275 out back. Then I get widebody plus nice wheels, and giant tires.

Thoughts? Can you even fit a 245 on a 17x9 +25-ish wheel? Also, on KYB's with Tein springs with 2" drop, no coils and no immediate plans for them


YOUR CHASSIS: s13 hatch

WHEELS: 17x9.5 +18 (F) 17x10 +18 (R)

TIRES: 215/45 (F) 235/40 (R)

PURPOSE OF CAR: street/grip

PICTURES: Crappy picture

[axiomatik]

Originally Posted by trigjones

Thoughts? Can you even fit a 245 on a 17x9 +25-ish wheel?

I certainly hope so. I'm in the middle of a 5-lug swap right now. Already have 245/40 mounted on 17x9 +17. Haven't been able to get the wheels on yet because I haven't installed any of the hubs yet, so I can't say for certain how they'll fit, but it should work. btw, 245 on a 9 inch wheel is almost square, just the slightest of stretch. Looks really good in my opinion.

[longfellow]

I used to run a 255-40-17 NT05 on a 17x9 wheel, it worked just fine.

[PyroTecK]

I don't see why you'd have to widebody to run 245f/275r... I ran 245/40/17 on all four corners in an s13 with 17x9+22f 17x9+27r. I was on coilovers but from what I've read it should be easier to run a wider tire without them. I ran 5mm spacers in the front to keep the wheel from contacting the lower spring perch. I think roll/pull would be enough for you and your wheels can easily handly that size tire. Keep the rpf1s, throw wide rubber on them, lightly massage to fit.

[trigjones]

Originally Posted by PyroTecK

I don't see why you'd have to widebody to run 245f/275r... I ran 245/40/17 on all four corners in an s13 with 17x9+22f 17x9+27r. I was on coilovers but from what I've read it should be easier to run a wider tire without them. I ran 5mm spacers in the front to keep the wheel from contacting the lower spring perch. I think roll/pull would be enough for you and your wheels can easily handly that size tire. Keep the rpf1s, throw wide rubber on them, lightly massage to fit.

17x9 +22 is usually a perfect size for square-ish tires, and +27 would be about perfect for the back end. But I'm running an extra inch (10"s), and almost 10mm further backspacing. Right now with the 235/45's on the rear, the top of the tread is flush with the outside of the fender. And that's with (estimated) -4 degrees of camber. If I wanted to run 275's and -2 camber, the tires are gonna to be sticking out 3-4" inches out of the fender.

There is plenty of room inside for higher offset wheels, its just a matter of "cheap" wheels with better sizing, or keep the nice legit track wheels and run a fatter tire, but that would most likely require wider panels. Also, hatch's can do a roll, but pulls almost 80% of the time will buckle the fender. At least none of my mechanic/shop friends are willing to do it because they can't guarantee it'll work. Course coupes can get pulled out no problem.

[trigjones]

Originally Posted by longfellow

I used to run a 255-40-17 NT05 on a 17x9 wheel, it worked just fine.

Was this on an S14? what size wheel and offset?

[gearhead55]

Originally Posted by PyroTecK

I don't see why you'd have to widebody to run 245f/275r... I ran 245/40/17 on all four corners in an s13 with 17x9+22f 17x9+27r. I was on coilovers but from what I've read it should be easier to run a wider tire without them. I ran 5mm spacers in the front to keep the wheel from contacting the lower spring perch. I think roll/pull would be enough for you and your wheels can easily handly that size tire. Keep the rpf1s, throw wide rubber on them, lightly massage to fit.

I second this. keep the rpf1s, lightweight wheels dramatically affect the overall performance of the car.

[trigjones]

Originally Posted by Kinematics

Here is mine:

YOUR CHASSIS: s13

WHEELS: Enkei RPF1 17x9.5f 17x10r +18

TIRES: 255/40/17f 275/40/17r

MISC DETAILS: stock engine.

PURPOSE OF CAR: My driving is primarily in the mountains, on/offramps, etc.. some autocross and road racing later this year.

PICTURES:


I am working to bring it lower. There have been many clearance issues in the past and probably many more to come. I'm surprised there hasn't been more talk in this thread about clearance tips.



I am going to add more rear camber and drop it. it hardly has any negative camber at all. I just pulled my fenders and put the wheels on, didn't really mess with any settings yet in the back, besides toe.

Any tips anyone? I have bonked out a whole lot of rubbing areas in my wheel wells with a sledgehammer, relocated the harnesses and bonked in that lip at the top and back of the front wheel wells. No hammering or anything else was necessary in the rear, except the fender pull.

Correction, I suppose I could run the same size wheels with (stock-ish) fenders. All I need to do is pull the crap out of the front and rears, and downsize to maybe a 245/40 front so that it won't rub the liner/washer reservoir.

[axiomatik]

Originally Posted by CamryOnBronze

Got it all together this weekend and running with the key! Here are some pics after I cleaned it up a bit:

I used these pics as a point of reference for tire sizing on my 17x9 wheels. Pics show 17x9 +12 with 225/45 front and 245/40 rear.

[jsaviour84]

i have rpf1 18x10.5+15 all around 20mm front fenders (about go 40mmm bc of the width of the rims) and 50mm rears with 25mm spacers. i was looking to get 285/35s. do you have any suggestions?

i currently have n1 slicks 24-64-18

[longfellow]

Originally Posted by trigjones

Was this on an S14? what size wheel and offset?

Yes, 17x9 +15. A 9" +22 is the ideal set up if you dont want to run a lot of camber.

[greddy2die]

F) 17x9 +16 (thats including spacers, wheel is actually +22
R) 17x9 +22
255/40/17 Federal's up front -1.5* camber
255/40/17 Kankook RS3's out back +0.5* camber

[s14_sr20_silvia]

My new setup: 18x8 235/40 (f) 18x9 275/35 (r)

[WhiteZenki23]

S14
XXR 521
18x10-255/35/18
18x8.5-225/40/18
potenza runflat- bridgestone

[picsbypenny]

Anyone ever run somethin like a 15x10 0 offset with like a M/T ET Street

[PoorMans180SX]

Originally Posted by picsbypenny

Anyone ever run somethin like a 15x10 0 offset with like a M/T ET Street

Yeah it looks like dicks.

BTW guys, I'm pretty sure if I can fit my fingers in between your tire and your fender, then your "maximum rubber fitment" isn't where it needs to be.