Maximum TIRE(Rubber) fitment thread

[a_ahmed]

anyone got pix on s13 without wide fenders with 17x9+17 and falken 255/40/17 or any other 255/40/17 in here... i am so anxious to get mine man... but i have to wait i wana see what its gona look like if someone has it heh

[Flybert]

Originally Posted by driftyour40

yes. rolled now they need a slight pull.



they are just a little thiner then the 275 my co worker runs on his vett I would not call that supper narrow. You are right they do seem kind of narrow though. but it's fine it saves me from having to pull the shit out of the fender.

for now at least. I think next time I need tires I'm going w/275s

There's no way I would run anything that tall up front. Maybe if you could find some 275/35/17 it would be worth going wider. You would be better off getting some grippy 255/40/17 like some RS-R, RE01R, Neova, Azenis, RS-2. Prices aren't bad for the non-jappo brands either.

[racepar1]

Originally Posted by a_ahmed

anyone got pix on s13 without wide fenders with 17x9+17 and falken 255/40/17 or any other 255/40/17 in here... i am so anxious to get mine man... but i have to wait i wana see what its gona look like if someone has it heh

I have 17x9 +20 wheels with 255/40/17 falken's on them on my car. Check out my VB pic gallery for pics as I am at work and can't post pics from here. I don't think 3 mil of offset will really make a difference if all you need is an idea of how they look and what you are going to have to do to fit them. I had to roll my fender lips and pull the fenders about 1/2" to 3/4". The rear suspension gains a LOT of camber as it compresses so the tires and wheels can actually stick out past the fender a bit and still not rub. Mine stick out about 1/8" give or take.

[racepar1]

Originally Posted by Flybert

There's no way I would run anything that tall up front. Maybe if you could find some 275/35/17 it would be worth going wider. You would be better off getting some grippy 255/40/17 like some RS-R, RE01R, Neova, Azenis, RS-2. Prices aren't bad for the non-jappo brands either.

It is not the front where the heighth of a 275/40 would be an issue. A taller and wider tire will not only widen the contact patch, but also lengthen it, which means more available grip. In the rear however it will screw up the total gear ratios a bit and not pull quite as hard since it effectively has a lower ratio. I plan on running 275/40/17 r-compounds in the near future, but I will change my rear end gear ratio to compensate first. I'll probably run the 4.6 ring and pinion from the x-terra, but I need to run all the numbers and make sure that that will not be too much.

[idahotuner]

^ i have a 275/40/17 in the back. and 235/40 r17 in the front. so my gear ratio is going to be mixed up with the taller wheels. will it make it longer or how does that work. will i have more time in each gear.

[Flybert]

Originally Posted by racepar1

It is not the front where the heighth of a 275/40 would be an issue.

Have fun rubbing inner fender then.

[gsracer]

And you can drift on wide tires too.......

[driftyour40]

Originally Posted by Flybert

There's no way I would run anything that tall up front. Maybe if you could find some 275/35/17 it would be worth going wider. You would be better off getting some grippy 255/40/17 like some RS-R, RE01R, Neova, Azenis, RS-2. Prices aren't bad for the non-jappo brands either.

aren’t there people in this thread running 285/35 18s on pulled fenders, I'm sure I will manage, if not then I will modify the car or I will run 265s like I will be. maybe a different brand that’s not running as narrow.

I'll end up giving it a shot anyways there are some slightly used 275s in the back of the shop I could test fit, so I'm not going to lose anything by trying.

What I want to know is, should I invest in a PS cooler?

[driftyour40]

Originally Posted by Meng1988

Sorry but do you happen to have any pictures of directly behind the wheel/fender, I can't really see how far it sticks out? I have 18-9.5 +12 and am trying to find the tires I want.

No, not right now, as I said in my first post I was just test fitting and I took them back off the car until body work is done.


gsracer your car is sick.

[Flybert]

Originally Posted by driftyour40

aren’t there people in this thread running 285/35 18s on pulled fenders, I'm sure I will manage, if not then I will modify the car or I will run 265s like I will be. maybe a different brand that’s not running as narrow.

I'll and up giving it a shot anyways there are some slightly used 275s in the back of the shop I could test fit, so I'm not going to lose anything by trying.

What I want to know is, should I invest in a PS cooler?

The smart guys in this thread are actually running 285/30/18 up front and yes, you should invest in a P/S cooler.

[T00ch]

these are my current wheels..tire size is i believe 205/40
..im not sure what numbers to look for..but i want a little more tread like thicker side walls on it cuz i dont have the best of roads around here and with that low pro of a tire ill feel every bump lol

[Flybert]

Originally Posted by T00ch

these are my current wheels..tire size is i believe 205/40
..im not sure what numbers to look for..but i want a little more tread like thicker side walls on it cuz i dont have the best of roads around here and with that low pro of a tire ill feel every bump lol

Sell those pizza cutters to one of the local pizzerias in jersey and get your self some real wheels.

[T00ch]

lol i picked em up for like..a buck fifty..figured you cant go wrong with that. i just wanna toss them on cuz i still got my all seasons on the 7 spokes and i wanna save em for next winter.. any help with tire sizes?

[driftyour40]

Originally Posted by T00ch

lol i picked em up for like..a buck fifty..figured you cant go wrong with that. i just wanna toss them on cuz i still got my all seasons on the 7 spokes and i wanna save em for next winter.. any help with tire sizes?

sell them and get something else run stock wheels it looks better then bad/wrong sized wheels.

[Flybert]

Yeah, if you have no means to sell, just get some with a taller profile for a little extra cushion. 205/45/17 would be cool.

[racepar1]

Originally Posted by Flybert

Have fun rubbing inner fender then.

Inner fender!!!??? Are you serious? This is the MAXIMUM rubber and wheel thread! Our fender liners were gone a LOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGG time ago! LOL!

[Flybert]

Originally Posted by racepar1

Inner fender!!!??? Are you serious? This is the MAXIMUM rubber and wheel thread! Our fender liners were gone a LOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGG time ago! LOL!

Inner fender, wheel well, same thing. Around these parts, we call that plastic you throw away when you first get your car a fender liner. Tall tires likes to hit metal up front on s-chassis. Nothing like losing suspension travel and heating up your tires because you chose a stupid size.

[KA24DESOneThree]

Originally Posted by Flybert

Inner fender, wheel well, same thing. Around these parts, we call that plastic you throw away when you first get your car a fender liner. Tall tires likes to hit metal up front on s-chassis. Nothing like losing suspension travel and heating up your tires because you chose a stupid size.

I have to agree with this.

275/40 doesn't have a point on our cars. It's wide, yeah, but what it makes up for in ultimate grip and longevity it eliminates in clearance and gear ratio issues.

The 285/30 is shorter, lighter, and more readily available. It's a pretty easy choice.

Can we keep the 205s out of the thread please? Thanks.

[racepar1]

Originally Posted by Flybert

Inner fender, wheel well, same thing. Around these parts, we call that plastic you throw away when you first get your car a fender liner. Tall tires likes to hit metal up front on s-chassis. Nothing like losing suspension travel and heating up your tires because you chose a stupid size.

I have 255/40/17's in the front right now and am not even close to hitting anything. 275 is simply the next step up and the sidewall shouldn't be more than 5-10mm taller anyways. Now if I missed the point and we are talking about 18's then 40's are absolutely too tall. I don't even know why anyone would consider 275/40/18's though, OBVIOUSLY too tall there.

[driftyour40]

I looked at my co workers vett and set my rim with the his and my 265s are taller.

[Firestorm]

i've got a question to ask, i mounted my wheels today and i noticed on full lock my tire rubs against the tension rod. the other way round it doesn't even come near the wheel well. wheels in front are 8.5x17 offset 30, tire is a 235/40R17. so, could this be because of the offset or due to my castor being way off since i installed aftermarket tension rods?

either way, will an alignment get this fixed or do i need spacers? i planned on running 5mm spacers, hope that will be enough to clear coils as well as tension rods, etc.

[driftyour40]

Originally Posted by Firestorm

i've got a question to ask, i mounted my wheels today and i noticed on full lock my tire rubs against the tension rod. the other way round it doesn't even come near the wheel well. wheels in front are 8.5x17 offset 30, tire is a 235/40R17. so, could this be because of the offset or due to my castor being way off since i installed aftermarket tension rods?

either way, will an alignment get this fixed or do i need spacers? i planned on running 5mm spacers, hope that will be enough to clear coils as well as tension rods, etc.

you should start with an alignment, you shouldn't need a spacer, do you run coilovers?

[Firestorm]

yes

msglength

oh, btw, forgot to mention, S13.

[driftyour40]

Originally Posted by Firestorm

yes

msglength

oh, btw, forgot to mention, S13.

if you are clearing coilovers then you should clear everything else, I say get the alignment and go from there. You need one anyways so do it.

[racepar1]

Originally Posted by Firestorm

i've got a question to ask, i mounted my wheels today and i noticed on full lock my tire rubs against the tension rod. the other way round it doesn't even come near the wheel well. wheels in front are 8.5x17 offset 30, tire is a 235/40R17. so, could this be because of the offset or due to my castor being way off since i installed aftermarket tension rods?

either way, will an alignment get this fixed or do i need spacers? i planned on running 5mm spacers, hope that will be enough to clear coils as well as tension rods, etc.

It may be that your steering rack is not centered properly. Count the turns from center to lock in either direction. If there is a noticeable difference in the position of the steering wheel when it is locked in either direction then your rack is not centered. A LOT of mechanics are too lazy or inept to properly center the rack as it can be a bitch if you don't get it right the first time.

[Firestorm]

thanks, i'll check that tomorrow.

if thats not the problem, it must be an alignment issue. i'm gonna get one anyway, so we'll see!

+rep to both of you!

[gotta240]

I never thought of that. How is the rack centered?

[racepar1]

Originally Posted by gotta240

I never thought of that. How is the rack centered?

You count the turns, generallly with the rack out of the car, and figure out where center is. This really takes more skill and patience than you would think. Then you make sure the steering wheel is centered before you connect the lower steering shaft coupler to the rack. Once everything is centered you connect the coupler to the rack. Now BEFORE you tighten everything down 100% check the turns on the steering wheel to verify that the rack is centered and the steering shaft coupler is in the correct position. If it is off then you move the coupler one tooth in whatever direction is necessary untill you get it right. Keep in mind that on s-13's (and probably s-14's too) the steering wheel always seems to be off 1/2 tooth for some reason. I fought with mine for like 2 hrs before I realized that.

[240 OR DIE]

well I found out it doesnt take much to fit 275s on 17x10s up front. To get them to fit I had to do a little pull on the fenders, raised her right at an inch, also did a little bangin on the fire wall. I used a +25 offset to match rears so I can rotate tires as well as get away from staggered setups. So to clear the coilover I used a 15mm kics spacer, which left me maybe 3-5 mm clearance.....can you say tight. Heres the results







At this weekends Divisional Auto x
1st place in sm

[240 OR DIE]

Heres some hope for s13 owners
285/30 r18 on 18x9.5 +40....stock fenders




My buddy with an EVO 9, let Lance put these on after the event. The only thing he would need to do is do the smallest pull imaginable. I think putting a screwdriver in there and pulling would allow it to not rub. upfront is another issue, but you CAN fitt this size just real high offsets