twofortyrida1388

I don't plan on doing this and if I did it would be years in the future. I did quite a bit of searching here and on google. I have a few questions out of sheer curiosity. I read the vq35 weighs nearly same as ka, t/f. Since it is shorter in length and height compared to other 4 cyl's and sits further back to firewall does it give a 240 a close or 50/50 weight distribution. If all this is true with the 6 speed tranny that could be a reliable n/a beast. If you have done it and I'm sure some of you have please link me to some pics and I would love some vid. Thanks

OptionZero

freshalloy's 240sx sections...multiple guys have done it, search there

v8 swap probably takes similar amount of effort with even more potential

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skate07

i will sell you a VQ motorset when your ready, 3k plus the ship

drift freaq

^^^^ he needs more than just a VQ motorset lol.

and just to clarify a V8 swap does wind up costing more.

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carnal_c30

can you do 1500?

skate07

i never said thats all he would need, i was simply saying that i have a few spare motors.





and to carnal

its a brand new motor and trans.... i could do 2300 plus the ship

twofortyrida1388

What did Nissan do to the 05+ VQ35's to put them at 300hp. I think it is pretty damn cool. Nissan motor+very smooth+tons of torque+aluminum block that can handle 500hp w/o being sleeved and the new GTR engine is in same family etc, etc. The VQ family is the only series to have been in Ward's 10 Best Engines since it was conceived. I am just waiting until I get a garage and more tools. If I were to do something like this it would def have to be done right the first time. This is only good vid I could find of VQ35 S13. http://videos.streetfire.net/video/b...620170f7a9.htm

OptionZero

shifted the power band and raised the rev limit IIRC

the "Rev-up" engines make more power but they aren't really that much faster because of the lost torque

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twofortyrida1388

What kind of power can be expected out of that thing with even a T25 TT setup and good tune. Something very basic.

djp.

this might be kind of off subject but here is a pictue of how it looks on an s14
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p...t4mys13/vg.jpg

and here is a link of one being built
http://www.engineswaptech.com/forums/thread/60.aspx

PoorMans180SX

Hey look up Fred Allen Burge on here, or go to his website, www.engineswaptech.com to find out all you need to know about this swap. I plan on doing this myself.

Actually that video you found is of Broaner, and he has a VQ30DE from his Maxima in his coupe. He's tube framing the front end now. Cool guy.

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twofortyrida1388

Damn that means I didn't find a vid of a VQ35 S13. Thanks a lot though. I have heard nothing but good things from this motor and I would love to keep it in the family. I see people talking about LS1 this LS1 that cool. Take that LS1 and keep it in the camaro and drift that or put it in a cavalier or something. I know true car fanatics don't car what motor goes in what but I couldn't bring myself to do that. Especially the whole V8 bandwagon.

PoorMans180SX

same here man, same here.

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twofortyrida1388

When I saw your post on main page I was expecting an attack but I'm glad someone agrees.

Bushido

this is a cool vq project ive been following for a while:




VQ30DET in s14.
http://www.engineswaptech.com/forums...howThread.aspx

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twofortyrida1388

I read all those engineswaptech posts and their idea for a vq is insane. A 3.2L VQ with Z33 6MT that hits 9K. That would be a fucking insane N/A street car. What about the QR25DE? Is there a RWD tranny that can be put on it?

BigVinnie

Always remember VQ's love to burn oil, especially if it's a 5w-30.
I talk to 350z owners all the time, that is the one major complaint, most move up to a 10w-40 for less burning.
My friend Dave that works at Nissan blew an engine already with his Greddy turbo set up. My friend Shan at infinion ( we run 1/4 mile times) blew his N/A motor at 45,000 miles. He also received a replacement motor and it continues to burn lighter weight less viscous to colder temperature oils.
VQ is a great engine but definitely wasn't designed for 5W oils....

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1Via!

Who runs 5W anyway?

I wouldnt touch a QR for a swap with a 10ft stick. Nissan is (supposedly) doing a silent recall on them.

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skate07

haha yep, budddy at a dealership found that the rings were getting so much carbon buildup that they were eventually siezing and shooting out of the side of the blocks. Only rememdy was to replace the rings.... such a hassle for a 20 dollar set of parts, made me laugh

twofortyrida1388

Now that you mention it I have heard of many problems with the QR. I saw the weight of some Nissan engines on that engineswaptech site and the VQ only weighs a few pounds more than the KA. I would not have even considered this but since there have been sooooo many 350z's and maximas and just about every newer Nissan, parts and the motor itself is plentyful. Even if you leave it how it came you strill have a 250hp/300hp depending on what year and model it came out of.

PoorMans180SX

pretty much. I absolutely can't wait for my car to be done. Another benefit [if you use the VQ35 block] is you can upgrade to VQHR heads. I'm hoping to twin-turbo mine eventually.

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I saw a 350z in modified mag or something like that and the torque is insane. It had like 483hp and 511lbs of torque. Like V8 torque. With the VQ32 setup how do they do it. VQ30 crank in VQ35 or what. Like I said a 6speed tranny with 300+ hp and 9000rpm in a 27-2800lb car is

PoorMans180SX

yeah, it's preferable to get a VQ30DET crank, as the crank has larger journals and is a bit stronger. Get some DET sized H-beam rods and you're good for VQ32. I'm PoorMans180SX on engineswaptech.

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twofortyrida1388

What kind of work actually goes into a VQ32? I know its not as simple as dropping a VQ30 crank and rods into a VQ35. What other components besides customs pistons will be needed?

PoorMans180SX

Not much else really. Rods and Crank. Pistons are the same size as VQ35, but you're right, custom for compression reasons, or you could get longer rods. You'll want to get valves/springs/retainers so you can rev higher than the stock heads can. and some cams to make power higher up.

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twofortyrida1388

How will the ECU handle it though. What kind of tuning would be necessary for a 9K 3.2L monster? I have always been the guy to know the easier mechanical parts but wiring and tuning I'm just not there. Is learning how to tune the same as everything else? Trial and Error?

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CKAMC

ECU? Haltech!

QR 06 motors have a burning oil issue as well, got lucky with old DD that it was built in late 05 before they tried a new idea with the motor before scrapping it for the MR series.

NA Vq's are fantastic choice, light weight, lots of possibilities. Top Secret is still messing around with them. Yeah the I6 was great but well... V6's pass emissions so easy now....

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PoorMans180SX

Yeah, you'll definitely need to go to a standalone ECU.

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Bushido

i dont really see the appeal in a 3.2 setup... just to rev higher? the vq35 is set up for a long flat tourque curve and has an excellent powerband stock...
for me, i'd love to have a factory Y33 VQ30DET in my S13, intercooled with a T3/4 complete with factory ecu, nats module and key, throttle by wire, etc the... the VQ30DET above made 375 rwhp and its stock with a T3/4.

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