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Old 07-09-2002, 11:07 AM   #31
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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (240 2NR @ July 09 2002,11:17)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Another thing to remember is that the Japanese market got some pretty lame offerings of the silvia as well. *Would you have rather they gave us the SR20DE (notice, no T) motor found in the J's and Q's (i think) cars? *Less displacement, less torque and less horsepower.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
How about the CA18DE... &nbsp;It's a nice high revving little engine, but it can barely make those little Pulsars move.

Still, the CA and SR non-turbos are no worse than what came as the standard engines in most of the 240SX's competition. &nbsp;The base 1g DSM had a 1.8 SOHC...!
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Old 07-09-2002, 11:39 AM   #32
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AKA - keep in mind that DSM dropped that car when they changed it. &nbsp;Not to mention that turbo sales didn't even drive that class - secretaries in na fwd base models did! &nbsp;I found a reference to FI sales (15% of all Eclipses) and IIRC, awd turbo sales were around 1-2% of all FI Eclipse sales.
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In short, DSM learned too. &nbsp;There is a reason there is no more turbos and they are selling better than ever.

2NR - I'm not so much a conspiracy theorist as I am a believer that despite everyone's best attempts, turbos have problems. &nbsp;Always have. &nbsp;Likely always will. &nbsp;The more parts you have, the more can break. &nbsp;Why go FI if you can get a suitable amount of NA power? &nbsp;Even the best imported turbos of the 80's sucked and it turned Americans off. &nbsp;Particularly when we had nothing restricting us from grabbing our large displacement V engines and scooting along.

uu - I know Sweden's driver's ed was HARSH. &nbsp;But they are not alone on that (although definately at the extreme end). &nbsp; Further, their gas prices are in line w/ those from virtually every other country in the world (I didn't adjust for recent price spikes). &nbsp;We trade emissions controls for cheap, dirty gas. &nbsp;And this leaves out the whole parking thing! &nbsp;

As a US reference, I was in NYC this weekend visiting a friend who is going to buy either a Boxter S or the track edition of the 350z (provided he can fit in it) for his weekend drives. &nbsp;He's already paying over $500/mo. for parking and insurance on a Teg. &nbsp;With that, what's a little extra for a car payment?

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-who doesn't drive to work b/c it would take just as long and cost $180/mo. for parking
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