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Andrew @ 240sxMotoring · 01-12-2009, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by txrxs

Do you they make these for the kade?

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinkarrowsnow

tell them to make it for the KA

We're working on it!

*Om1kron* · 01-12-2009, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Slidin240Wayz

No groove...hmmmmmm

Why doesn't the block itself have a groove...hmmmmmmm?

*tre4s13* · 01-12-2009, 11:53 AM

once again, KA ftmfl....we gets no love?

Andrew @ 240sxMotoring · 01-16-2009, 09:54 AM

These Moroso pans have been sent through 240sxMotoring's hardcore R&D and quality control process.

We even sent these pans back to Moroso to have them modify them a bit.

Now, these (AND ONLY THESE) Moroso pans have
100% PERFECT FITMENT

Also, KA24 fans. I'd keep your ears open in the next month or so.

boosteds14 · 01-16-2009, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rittmeister

2 questions -

1. I had a Tomei pan for a while, and could never get it to seal against the mating surface at the bottom of the motor. Tried several different types of RTV, un-and re-installed at least half a dozen times, and gave up and went back to a Greddy-type pan, which has now worked fine for years. I sometimes thought that the Tomei didn't seal because the flange wasn't grooved like the stock pan (to hold the RTV), but that the Greddy was OK because it had the groove. I see this pan has no groove either; can you speak to this issue?

2. It looks like this pan tucks up under the engine a little closer than the Greddy pans - true, or are my eyes playing tricks on me?

Thanks!

1. You do prove a good point, i asked moroso and they never heard of this problem. However this is what i did upon testing. I cleaned both upper pan and the moroso pan with brake cleaner for a clean fresh surface. I then put RTV on both the upper pan and the moroso pan, let it sit for a minute to get tacky but not like the state it is right out of the tube. I then bolted the pan up snug, not tight. I then let it sit a little longer then fully tightened it down. I believe this gave the RTV the opportunity to adhere properly to both surfaces. So far no leaks at all.

2. there is a slight maybe 1deg angle but i did not notice it once its on the car or out of the box until you mentioned it.

boosteds14 · 01-16-2009, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by txrxs

Do you they make these for the kade?

we have moroso working on it.

boosteds14 · 01-16-2009, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BOXCAR

Minor modification to lower oil baffle is required for this pan to work. Premies... check my build thread.

thanks for this post. we checked and it did NOT clear the baffle.
Moroso came to our shop, picked all of them up and made the changes.
they now fit flawlessly.

boosteds14 · 01-16-2009, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wangan_cruiser

does it clear largus sway bar?

bars i tested on was stock, cusco, and suspension tech.

this pan is the same dimensions as the Greddy pan. So if largus bars clear the greddy pan, then this should have no problems either.

Andrew @ 240sxMotoring · 01-19-2009, 09:26 AM

Rittmeister · 01-19-2009, 11:29 AM

Exactly what modifications were made to the pans? Pictures to compare?

boosteds14 · 01-19-2009, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rittmeister

Exactly what modifications were made to the pans? Pictures to compare?

andrew just took some pics. posting up shortly.

it was the weld from the flange to the baffle.

Andrew @ 240sxMotoring · 01-19-2009, 01:45 PM

The main problem was the welds on the baffles causing fitment to be off ever so slightly. These new ones have the welds relocated to eleminate that problem. The baffles themselves have also been modified to resolve any clearance issues.

*fromxtor* · 01-19-2009, 03:19 PM

If you want one of these to work with the KA you COULD get one of these:

xdarkrune · 01-19-2009, 11:16 PM

would a knock-off company go to such great lengths to correct a problem like moroso has? i really think not. this passion for quality work has me sold, expect an order from me next pay period!

***S14DB*** · 01-19-2009, 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rittmeister

2 questions -

1. I had a Tomei pan for a while, and could never get it to seal against the mating surface at the bottom of the motor. Tried several different types of RTV, un-and re-installed at least half a dozen times, and gave up and went back to a Greddy-type pan, which has now worked fine for years. I sometimes thought that the Tomei didn't seal because the flange wasn't grooved like the stock pan (to hold the RTV), but that the Greddy was OK because it had the groove. I see this pan has no groove either; can you speak to this issue?

2. It looks like this pan tucks up under the engine a little closer than the Greddy pans - true, or are my eyes playing tricks on me?

Thanks!

Did you finger tight. Then let the RTV set up then TQ to spec?

Rittmeister · 01-20-2009, 09:33 AM

No, in fact, I didn't. I always assumed that it was because the Tomei and Tomei knockoff pans are steel, and wouldn't flex as much to conform to the engine's mating surface as an aluminum pan would.

I may have to give these a try, but I also might Dremel a groove onto the flange...

420sx · 01-20-2009, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rittmeister

2 questions -

1. I had a Tomei pan for a while, and could never get it to seal against the mating surface at the bottom of the motor. Tried several different types of RTV, un-and re-installed at least half a dozen times, and gave up and went back to a Greddy-type pan, which has now worked fine for years. I sometimes thought that the Tomei didn't seal because the flange wasn't grooved like the stock pan (to hold the RTV), but that the Greddy was OK because it had the groove. I see this pan has no groove either; can you speak to this issue?

2. It looks like this pan tucks up under the engine a little closer than the Greddy pans - true, or are my eyes playing tricks on me?

Thanks!

you need to take your pan to a shop that has a gasket cutter. most bike shops will have those.

it will be around 18-20 dollars to cut a gasket. no need for rtv and it will seal perfect. you are welcome

Rittmeister · 01-20-2009, 10:28 AM

Have you actually done this with an oilpan? I ask because the arguments I've always heard in favor of the RTV Nissan uses are a) rubber gaskets won't hold up under the heat and b) cork/fibrous gaskets will eventually become saturated and seep/sweat oil.

Any more info would be great.

Andrew @ 240sxMotoring · 01-20-2009, 11:35 AM

GET THE REAL THING!
Your oil is your car's blood; the life of your engine. Don't just trust any oil pan!

Rittmeister · 01-20-2009, 10:05 PM

Couple more dumb questions:

1. Do the mounting studs have an allen hex in the end, to ease installation? Is there anything that holds them in the upper pan, other than the tension holding the Moroso pan in place?
2. Could you conceivably use properly sized bolts instead?
3. Is the drain plug the same as factory?
4. What size is the sensor bung?
5. The four plugs in the bottom that allow you to get to the side mounting studs - how are they threaded? I guess I'm paranoid about them vibrating out, or leaking.

Sorry about the annoying customer routine. I've been fairly satisfied with my Greddy-style pan, except that it's cast and I'm always afraid it'll get cracked in some freak impact accident. This one looks attractive, being sheet aluminum, but my experiences with the Tomei-type leave me very leery.

Any info appreciated. Very interested...

boosteds14 · 01-22-2009, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rittmeister

Couple more dumb questions:

1. Do the mounting studs have an allen hex in the end, to ease installation? Is there anything that holds them in the upper pan, other than the tension holding the Moroso pan in place?
2. Could you conceivably use properly sized bolts instead?
3. Is the drain plug the same as factory?
4. What size is the sensor bung?
5. The four plugs in the bottom that allow you to get to the side mounting studs - how are they threaded? I guess I'm paranoid about them vibrating out, or leaking.

Sorry about the annoying customer routine. I've been fairly satisfied with my Greddy-style pan, except that it's cast and I'm always afraid it'll get cracked in some freak impact accident. This one looks attractive, being sheet aluminum, but my experiences with the Tomei-type leave me very leery.

Any info appreciated. Very interested...

1. It uses Hex style studs. Nothing holds them in except the tension of the lower pan.
2. You can use whatever bolt you want.
3. I believe it is but i never actually took it off and compared.
4. 1/4 i think, ill look at it and measure
5. they are threaded with a stop. you can use teflon to be safe and have the re-assurance of leakage.

Andrew @ 240sxMotoring · 01-28-2009, 10:29 AM

FerretsCanDrift · 01-28-2009, 11:25 AM

Price shipped to 08724

*thurman548* · 01-28-2009, 03:22 PM

priced shipped to 09012

Andrew @ 240sxMotoring · 02-12-2009, 10:14 AM

The people demand 'MOroso.

*JDMtyteYO!* · 02-13-2009, 10:41 PM

DEFENTLY ordering one of these tomorow. see an order placed and the address is ohioooo, its me

DJ_Sunrise · 02-14-2009, 10:10 AM

I always get the feeling that when parts don't work from a major company, someone's doing the install wrong... wrong torque, or wrong order. Nissan's are so damn sensitive.. I'm pretty sure the FSM calls for 2 or 3 step torquing in a certain order. I can't wait to have enough cash for one of these to replace my Greddy.

At any rate.. if this pan is same in dimensions to the Greddy pan, then it will clear every sway bar known IN THE S14. It will NOT clear the Largus bars in S13s, as Largus bars in S13's do not clear Greddy pans.

This pan in S14 = works with every sway bar
This pan in S13 = works with every sway bar with the exception of Largus..

This is given that the Moroso pan and Greddy have the same length with respect to front to back of the car... 240sx motoring, can you confirm dimensions? If correct, then above fitment is also right, as I spent more than enough time finding out about what sways clear what...

-Bart

Andrew @ 240sxMotoring · 02-16-2009, 12:06 PM

Hey Bart,
I opened up a pan for ya and took the dimensions myself. I didn't have anymore Greddy pans currently on-hand so I couldn't take dimensions of that one as well. They are virtually the same.

Here you go:

Andrew @ 240sxMotoring · 02-27-2009, 02:58 PM

To the top!

*Om1kron* · 02-27-2009, 03:29 PM

how much shipped to 92336

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01-19-2009, 01:45 PM	#42
Andrew @ 240sxMotoring www.240sxmotoring.com Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: New Haven, CT Posts: 492 Trader Rating: (8) Rides Gallery: Andrew @ 240sxMotoring	The main problem was the welds on the baffles causing fitment to be off ever so slightly. These new ones have the welds relocated to eleminate that problem. The baffles themselves have also been modified to resolve any clearance issues. __________________ Andrew @ 240sx Motoring Milford, CT @ 203-783-1422 (ext. 112) Read what people have to say about 240sxMotoring!

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01-20-2009, 09:33 AM	#46
Rittmeister Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Cincinnati OH Age: 32 Posts: 927 Trader Rating: (5)	No, in fact, I didn't. I always assumed that it was because the Tomei and Tomei knockoff pans are steel, and wouldn't flex as much to conform to the engine's mating surface as an aluminum pan would. I may have to give these a try, but I also might Dremel a groove onto the flange... __________________ 1990 240SR - the "Budget Baller"

01-20-2009, 10:28 AM	#48
Rittmeister Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Cincinnati OH Age: 32 Posts: 927 Trader Rating: (5)	Have you actually done this with an oilpan? I ask because the arguments I've always heard in favor of the RTV Nissan uses are a) rubber gaskets won't hold up under the heat and b) cork/fibrous gaskets will eventually become saturated and seep/sweat oil. Any more info would be great. __________________ 1990 240SR - the "Budget Baller"

01-20-2009, 11:35 AM	#49
Andrew @ 240sxMotoring www.240sxmotoring.com Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: New Haven, CT Posts: 492 Trader Rating: (8) Rides Gallery: Andrew @ 240sxMotoring	GET THE REAL THING! Your oil is your car's blood; the life of your engine. Don't just trust any oil pan! __________________ Andrew @ 240sx Motoring Milford, CT @ 203-783-1422 (ext. 112) Read what people have to say about 240sxMotoring!

01-20-2009, 10:05 PM	#50
Rittmeister Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Cincinnati OH Age: 32 Posts: 927 Trader Rating: (5)	Couple more dumb questions: 1. Do the mounting studs have an allen hex in the end, to ease installation? Is there anything that holds them in the upper pan, other than the tension holding the Moroso pan in place? 2. Could you conceivably use properly sized bolts instead? 3. Is the drain plug the same as factory? 4. What size is the sensor bung? 5. The four plugs in the bottom that allow you to get to the side mounting studs - how are they threaded? I guess I'm paranoid about them vibrating out, or leaking. Sorry about the annoying customer routine. I've been fairly satisfied with my Greddy-style pan, except that it's cast and I'm always afraid it'll get cracked in some freak impact accident. This one looks attractive, being sheet aluminum, but my experiences with the Tomei-type leave me very leery. Any info appreciated. Very interested... __________________ 1990 240SR - the "Budget Baller"

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02-12-2009, 10:14 AM	#55
Andrew @ 240sxMotoring www.240sxmotoring.com Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: New Haven, CT Posts: 492 Trader Rating: (8) Rides Gallery: Andrew @ 240sxMotoring	The people demand 'MOroso. __________________ Andrew @ 240sx Motoring Milford, CT @ 203-783-1422 (ext. 112) Read what people have to say about 240sxMotoring!

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02-14-2009, 10:10 AM	#57
DJ_Sunrise Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NJ Age: 22 Posts: 1,087 Trader Rating: (1)	I always get the feeling that when parts don't work from a major company, someone's doing the install wrong... wrong torque, or wrong order. Nissan's are so damn sensitive.. I'm pretty sure the FSM calls for 2 or 3 step torquing in a certain order. I can't wait to have enough cash for one of these to replace my Greddy. At any rate.. if this pan is same in dimensions to the Greddy pan, then it will clear every sway bar known IN THE S14. It will NOT clear the Largus bars in S13s, as Largus bars in S13's do not clear Greddy pans. This pan in S14 = works with every sway bar This pan in S13 = works with every sway bar with the exception of Largus.. This is given that the Moroso pan and Greddy have the same length with respect to front to back of the car... 240sx motoring, can you confirm dimensions? If correct, then above fitment is also right, as I spent more than enough time finding out about what sways clear what... -Bart

02-16-2009, 12:06 PM	#58
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